Wouldn't it be a better planet if.....?

originally posted by: bananashooter
a reply to: grandmakdw

So are you calling it a conspiracy?

No, I'm saying that I think
the OP's purpose was
actually to get people ranting about how terrible
Christians are and how awful a theocracy would be.

His phraseology is that of someone who doesn't know
the Bible or how Christians really talk. He/she appears
to be ignorant of the Bible and what Jesus actually
said about a theocracy.

The OP, in my opinion,
actually has tricked people into ranting
about Christianity and a theocracy.

Even though
Jesus himself said there would or should not
be a theocracy on this earth. Period.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: grandmakdw
He/she has not replied because it appeared to me
from what was written that the purpose was
to force people to say as nasty of things about Christians
as they could.
And what appears to me to be his/her deceit of
purpose is succeeding somewhat.

Other posts by the OP seem to indicate that they are indeed a christian.

Christian vs christian as pointed out early on.

If that is true, then the OP does not know his/her Bible
and does not know the words of Christ on this matter
and does not know the overall word of the New Testament
on this matter.

I gave the quotes from the Bible that supported my
contention that any truly scholarly Christian would
know that Jesus did not approve of a theocracy.

Could it be,
is it possible the OP is a faux Christian who is trying to
stir up trouble?
Possible in my view.

The OP sounds suspiciously like one that was
posted by an Islamist a short while back,
saying that the world would be a wonderful
place if everyone were Islamic.

Very provocative and got lots of responses.
Hmmmmm.

Makes one think when the
similarities are present.

Not an accusation, just food for thought.

originally posted by: grandmakdw

originally posted by: bananashooter
a reply to: grandmakdw

So are you calling it a conspiracy?

No, I'm saying that I think the OP's purpose was
actually to get people ranting about how terrible
Christians are and how awful a theocracy would be.

His phraseology is that of someone who doesn't know
the Bible or how Christians really talk. He/she appears
to be ignorant of the Bible and what Jesus actually
said about a theocracy.

The OP actually has tricked people into ranting
about Christianity and a theocracy. Even though
Jesus himself said there would or should not
be a theocracy on this earth. Period.

Are you an example of a good christian then?...

originally posted by: Prezbo369

originally posted by: grandmakdw

originally posted by: bananashooter
a reply to: grandmakdw

So are you calling it a conspiracy?

No, I'm saying that I think the OP's purpose was
actually to get people ranting about how terrible
Christians are and how awful a theocracy would be.

His phraseology is that of someone who doesn't know
the Bible or how Christians really talk. He/she appears
to be ignorant of the Bible and what Jesus actually
said about a theocracy.

The OP actually has tricked people into ranting
about Christianity and a theocracy. Even though
Jesus himself said there would or should not
be a theocracy on this earth. Period.

Are you an example of a good christian then?...

Definitely not!

I make lots of mistakes in life.

I defend Christians using words that cut like swords,
definitely not Christian like at all.

I have unkind thoughts about people,
although I always try to behave kindly toward everyone.

Nope, I am not the sort of person at all that
one should hold up as the kind of Christian
that Jesus wants us to be.

I fail miserably and often at being the kind
of Christian the bible says we should be.

However, I really do know the word of God,
and what I should and do aspire to,
however my failures abound and I am
far, far, far from being a model Christian.

Thank God, Jesus forgives me when I mess
up! All I can do is say I'm sorry, make amends
if needed, and try try again to be the kind
of person Jesus wants me to be.

But am I a good Christian, in my opinion,
no definitely not.

a reply to: grandmakdw

Just pointing out that this is how conflicting branches of any religion start out.

So, the OPs claim that all being of the same religion would end conflict isn't correct.

No it would be better if we were all jedi because then you we only need to sort out a couple of sith.
Oh and a world full of born again Christians...thats hell.

a reply to: Pluginn

Who are these true followers? let me guess... does it have your particular stamp of interpretation all over it? Then it still wouldn't answer the questions of theocracy!

And why are going on about the economy when my questions are aimed at the current state of the world and the impact of a theocracy? We can see perfectly well what theocracy's are doing in the world today. Regardless of your musings of "true followers" wich is a ridiculous to assume "we all would be I would agree though this world be a great place." I don't agree!

None of this addresses the problems with theocracy and the points I was adressing in my post to the OP!
And in the end you say..

No, but it sure can help reading his ways.

Who's ways? Who's he? let me guess... Your favorite flavor of deity? Then it still wouldn't answer the questions I posted to the OP!

originally posted by: Seede
a reply to: EvilBat

How about a world lead by Scientists and Educators? We could start advancing all our knowledge instead of suppressing it.

That could be the problem instead of the solution. Did not a guy named Adolph try that same thing?

I think it would be vastly different. Promoting knowledge and killing off a religion is different. You want religion then keep it just don't let it become something that is relied upon in state. It should not be a factor in running a country and or promoting world unity.

originally posted by: eXia7

originally posted by: EvilBat
a reply to: Nochzwei

How about a world lead by Scientists and Educators? We could start advancing all our knowledge instead of suppressing it.

Only if they do it for free.

Cuz science and education hasn't been manipulated to serve an agenda... like ever.. right?

People pay leaders now for doing a job right? So why wouldn't they get paid as well. Wouldn't you want leaders who want the rest of the world educated?

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I call BS. Christians can't even agree on what to believe between denominations and born again Christians still commit crimes and vote to go to war. The world wouldn't be any better off.

Nope. I would say truly born agains think alike as they ought to and willingly will not commit any crime

originally posted by: [post=19671593]grandmakdw A true Christian and one who is as zealous
as you claim to be
would know all of these versus
that are taught regularly in the majority
of churches and bible studies,
you would know that Jesus quite clearly
does not want a theocracy based on Christianity.
It is not for this world
Jesus said (ie not for the Earth)

I did say a heaven of SORTS.

a reply to: Nochzwei

Sin is a crime against God right? Christians commit crimes every day according to themselves, so no, even with everyone being Christian, everyone would still be sinning against one another. It's a self defeating system in itself.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Nochzwei

Sin is a crime against God right? Christians commit crimes every day according to themselves, so no, even with everyone being Christian, everyone would still be sinning against one another. It's a self defeating system in itself.

ARE THEY SINNING WILLINGLY IS OF ESSENCE

originally posted by: Ultralight
a reply to: Nochzwei

There should always be diversity in all things on this planet. The many, not the ONE.

Adam and Eve having sinned were cast into the outer darkness where diversity existed and we live in it to the present day.

a reply to: Nochzwei

It doesn't matter, sin is unavoidable. We wouldn't have a better world because Christians are just as much of sinners as any non-Christian according to their own doctrine.

a reply to: Nochzwei

I know a so called born again christian who cons everyone to make a buck.
Hypocrites many of then.

originally posted by: grandmakdw

originally posted by: Prezbo369

originally posted by: grandmakdw

originally posted by: bananashooter
a reply to: grandmakdw

So are you calling it a conspiracy?

No, I'm saying that I think the OP's purpose was
actually to get people ranting about how terrible
Christians are and how awful a theocracy would be.

His phraseology is that of someone who doesn't know
the Bible or how Christians really talk. He/she appears
to be ignorant of the Bible and what Jesus actually
said about a theocracy.

The OP actually has tricked people into ranting
about Christianity and a theocracy. Even though
Jesus himself said there would or should not
be a theocracy on this earth. Period.

Are you an example of a good christian then?...

Definitely not!

I make lots of mistakes in life.

I defend Christians using words that cut like swords,
definitely not Christian like at all.

I have unkind thoughts about people,
although I always try to behave kindly toward everyone.

Nope, I am not the sort of person at all that
one should hold up as the kind of Christian
that Jesus wants us to be.

I fail miserably and often at being the kind
of Christian the bible says we should be.

However, I really do know the word of God,
and what I should and do aspire to,
however my failures abound and I am
far, far, far from being a model Christian.

Thank God, Jesus forgives me when I mess
up! All I can do is say I'm sorry, make amends
if needed, and try try again to be the kind
of person Jesus wants me to be.

But am I a good Christian, in my opinion,
no definitely not.

Then we agree, the racist and disgusting rant you deleted was enough on its own for me to know this.

So maybe the OP has a point? maybe you're an example of this?

originally posted by: johnb
a reply to: Nochzwei

I would say wouldn't the planet be better off without the major religions especially the warlike Abrahamic ones with 1000's of years of bloodshed behind them.

But that's just me I guess

Am I missing something here. The very word religion does not figure anywhere in the op.

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: Nochzwei

Think about it. No wars, crime, lying or cheating. Majority of the problems this world is facing will come to an end

I guess you overlooked that most wars are started by so called Christians.

and we shall have Heaven of sorts on the Earth.

We can have heaven on Earth without religion. Being forced to believe in a religion is hardly heaven.

I did not refer to religion or so called Christians as you put it.. My op pertains to truly born agains.

a reply to: Nochzwei

Born again christian equals religion despite you not mentioning religion.
So again no never going to happen in fact you will find all religion will fade away soon.
God doesn't need religion neither do we.