Just Wondering...

a reply to: Nova937

Fires Do Not Cause Building Collapses'.

It is apparent that he was totally unaware of the 3 steel frame buildings that collapsed in Thailand, one right after the other, which were due to fire.

But explosives do!

Not the way Trutherrs have claimed.

a reply to: Nova937

Listen to the experts. I'm watching the video right now and it makes unbiased perfect sense.

That expert you are watching makes his entire living by perpetuating the 911 conspiracy.
Ask yourself why no one pays attention to his billboards in times square?
Why are most of his meetings in the Pacific northwest. Mainly Canada?

If he knew how it was done then he would know who could possible do it.
But mum's the word out of his mouth.
If he solves 911 then his income stream stops.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Nova937

Listen to the experts. I'm watching the video right now and it makes unbiased perfect sense.

That expert you are watching makes his entire living by perpetuating the 911 conspiracy.
Ask yourself why no one pays attention to his billboards in times square?
Why are most of his meetings in the Pacific northwest. Mainly Canada?

If he knew how it was done then he would know who could possible do it.
But mum's the word out of his mouth.
If he solves 911 then his income stream stops.

Lol you never watched the video!

Watch it and listen to the experts that know what they are talking about!

The video is made by Richard Gage but the expert testimonies are not.

DEMOLITION is way too obviously the cause of the 3 towers collapse. My 10 year old daughter can even see that. Can u?

a reply to: Nova937

Lol you never watched the video!

Watch it and listen to the experts that know what they are talking about!

The video is made by Richard Gage but the expert testimonies are not.

OK I scanned a very small section of the video.
Gage's own expert says the exact same thing as the NIST report.
Watch from the 30:00 minute nark.
His own expert says the steel doesn't melt but it starts to sag.
DUH! That's what everybody has said for 14 years!

Add that to the severed exterior and you have a recipe for a disaster.

a reply to: Nova937

Lol you never watched the video!

Since you have been caught posting hoaxed and flawed videos, why should anyone take you seriously?

The video is made by Richard Gage but the expert testimonies are not.

It is apparent that you are not in the habit of doing background checks. Let's take a look at Richard Gage because even architects have turned their backs on him.

ARCHITECT Magazine
The Magzine of the American Institute of Architects

All of Gage’s so-called evidence has been rebutted in peer-reviewed papers, by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, by the National Institute for Standards and Technology, by the American Society of Civil Engineers, by the 9/11 Commission Report, and, perhaps most memorably, by the 110-year-old engineering journal Popular Mechanics.

a reply to: skyeagle409

Since you have been caught posting hoaxed and flawed videos, why should anyone take you seriously?

You're so great at tossing that word " Caught ' around. Like you're some
911 LEO. When charges should be filed against you for obstruction of
justice. Justice that may never be realised by 911 families because of
a bunch of jackasses who fail to realise that if millions of people have
doubts about an " Official Story " concocted by a pack of criminals?
Then maybe those jackasses outta and let that happen?

originally posted by: randyvs

You're so great at tossing that word " Caught ' around. Like you're some
911 LEO.

Your so great at tossing the word " photoshoped " around. Like you're some truther LEO.



It's been over a week. Are you still unable to find any evidence for your claim ?

Have you ever heard or reverse image search ? Maybe you should start with that. Just a suggestion.

a reply to: randyvs

You're so great at tossing that word " Caught ' around. Like you're some 911 LEO.

First of all, I knew that his videos were hoaxed and bogus. In fact, I even posted one of those videos a few days ago to prove my point that Truthers are in the habit of posting hoaxed videos and photos and look what happened next. He posted that same hoaxed video that I posted a few days ago in an effort to prove my case. Talk about perfect timing in making my case very clear.

the other day.When charges should be filed against you for obstruction of justice. Justice that may never be realised by 911 families because of a bunch of jackasses who fail to realise that if millions of people have doubts about an " Official Story " concocted by a pack of criminals?

You need to understand that demolition experts, firefighters, architects, civil and structural engineers and others have stated for the record that fire, not explosives, was responsible for the collapse of the WTC buildings.

In order to properly prepare the WTC buildings for explosive demolition, you have to gut the buildings, cut the stairwells and elevator shafts, remove firewalls, and then, pre-weaken structural columns, which takes many months to complete and such a process generates tons of debris, dust and lots of noise. If those procedures are not done properly, all you have to do is to sit back and take an look at what happened to WTC 1 in 1993. Or, you can take a look at this video to understand when buildings are not properly prepared.



If you don't pre-weaken a steel frame building, this is what you get.

Standing Steel Structure

Then maybe those jackasses outta and let that happen?

Considering that nations around the world issued warnings to the United States that Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda would hijack airliners and crash them into buildings, why are you trying to blame the United States for carrying out the 9/11 attack without a shred of evidence and at a time when the rest of the world were pointing their fingers at the terrorist?

There was never a 9/11 False Flag operation on the part of the United States, which is underlined by the fact that Osama bin Laden admitted he was responsible and by the fact that al-Qaeda released those videos of the 9/11 hijackers.

a reply to: skyeagle409

You need to understand that demolition experts, firefighters, architects, civil and structural engineers and others have stated for the record that fire, not explosives, was responsible for the collapse of the WTC buildings.

I think I understand that perfectly fine, it's in plain english.

Come'n up next folks! Skyeagle makes the OS look worse than any truther ever
has.

In order to properly prepare the WTC buildings for explosive demolition, you have to gut the buildings, cut the stairwells and elevator shafts, remove firewalls, and then, pre-weaken structural columns, which takes many months to complete and such a process generates tons of debris, dust and lots of noise. If those procedures are not done properly, all you have to do is to sit back and take an look at what happened to WTC 1 in 1993. Or, you can take a look at this video to understand when buildings are not properly prepared.

This proves 100% you lack any common sense that would tell you
you lost an argument, so I'll tell you.

You lose!

a reply to: Nova937

Once again, no one heard bomb explosions. Let's take a look who had admitted his responsibility for the 9/11 attack.

Bin Laden, in statement to U.S. people, says he ordered Sept. 11 attacks

October 29, 2004

Osama bin Laden speaks in this image made from an undated video broadcast on Friday by Arab television station Al-Jazeera.

CAIRO, Egypt – Osama bin Laden, addressing the American public ahead of presidential elections, said in a video aired Friday that the United States can avoid another Sept. 11 attack if it stops threatening the security of Muslims.

Reading a statement, the al-Qaeda leader refrained from threats of new attacks and instead appealed to Americans.

"Your security is not in the hands of Kerry, Bush or al-Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands," bin Laden said, referring to the president and his Democratic opponent. "Each state that does not mess with our security, has naturally guaranteed its own security."

Admitting for the first time that he ordered the Sept. 11 attacks, bin Laden said he did so because of injustices against the Lebanese and Palestinians by Israel and the United States.

legacy.utsandiego.com...

a reply to: randyvs

This proves 100% you lack any common sense that would tell you
you lost an argument, so I'll tell you.

How Amusing can you get? I am right on the money and in fact, I know exactly what I am talking about as a structural technician.

Looking at the facts, truthers do not have the support from civil engineers, architects nor even demolition experts and if you had done any homework on the explosive demolition process, you would have found that I was correct on all counts.

Let's take a look at what the experts have said.

Architects Shy From Trutherism

Architects didn't show up for a 9/11-architecture-conspiracy documentary screening—and the AIA doesn't want its name associated with Trutherism

www.architectmagazine.com...


'A Critical Analysis of the Collapse of WTC Towers, 1, 2 & 7 From an Explosives and Demolition Industry Viewpoint'

www.implosionworld.com...

In other words, you lost.

a reply to: randyvs

Come'n up next folks! Skyeagle makes the OS look worse than any truther ever has.

Well, it has been 14 years since the 9/11 attack and to this very day, there is not a single shred of evidence of a 9/11 False Flag operation. However, over that same period of time, the Truth Movement has made a mockery of itself.

In case you missed it:

Disinformation Killed 9/11 “Truth”

By 2009, the 9/11 “Truth” Movement was so inundated with disinformation that it had become a laughingstock. The easily-discredited claims (lies) contaminated the greater issue and soiled dissenters across the board. “Turd blossom” was a Karl Rove phrase that could describe what the movement had devolved into. The media, whether corporate or foundation-funded, could find people ranting about “the Jews” or the Illuminati, the Lizard People, the missiles, holograms, mini-nukes or space beam weapons vaporizing the Twin Towers.

Many trolls, and some public personalities, appeared to be professional disinformation artists hard at work concocting and posting this crap online, which others repeated to their own detriment. One cannot easily prove that a specific person is a paid shill, a disinformation agent, a cyber agent provocateur, but be assured they are out there, and “out there.”

DISINFORMATION TO DISCREDIT

Author Thomas Pynchon wrote, “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” I’ll go one better and in the process explain modern cyber disinformation: If they can get you asking stupid questions, then their lapdog media can dismiss you as a “nut.”

That’s how it works, people. Well beyond questions, they have long lassoed a whole generation of newbies into reposting pseudo evidence about the 9/11 attacks, as if these were established facts. That’s FUD, using bogus evidence to taint those who choose to pass it on.

Photographs or sound bites are taken out of context to fabricate some new angle that no one had ever noticed before. More often than not, that was because these new findings were patently false. So much sloppy research and twisted factoids peppered the 9/11 “Truth” universe that the very concept of truth itself was devalued in the process.

.911truth.org/disinformation-killed-911-truth

a reply to: skyeagle409

Talk about hoaxed videos. OBL videos were CIA created videos. OBL died in 2001. At the time of 9/11 he was in a Coma. Your credibility about OBL admitting 9/11 has gone straight down the pan.

Can u not see past the BS? Or is it you don't want to!?

Of course people heard explosions. Hundreds of witnesses have said this. Numerous news videos of the day caught sounds of explosions. They weren't farts!

And OBL did not say he did 9/11 or even ordered it. How can he from his grave in Tora Bora. Everything you have said so far has been repeated from the Government and Media. And who controls the media?

For you thousands of experts that question 9/11 are all wrong.

Just a pity the US Government destroyed all the evidence isn't it? Just a pity they never tested the steel and dust for explosives. If they did maybe it would have laid the conspiracy to rest. Same as the Pentagon videos. If they released a video showing inconclusive proof a plane hit the Pentagon then we 'Truthers' as you call us would shut up about it.

The Official Story has not shown one shred of proof of what happened to the Towers, what happened to the Pentagon and what happened at Shanksville. It has provided theories and some do not add up at all. Despite witness testimonies and Expert views they have just ignored everyone and said 'Here is what happened, now shut up and say no more about it!!'

If they would let an independent body of experts investigate the events then they would gain some credibility but they won't. Because they are scared their false stories and manipulated conclusions will be seen to be FALSE.

And the fact that they destroyed all the evidence as soon as they could proves they didn't want anyone finding out they demolished these buildings and faked a plane crash into the Pentagon.

Discussions about 9/11 will go round and round because there is no concrete proof that 9/11 was done by 19 hijackers with box cutters.

a reply to: Nova937

Discussions about 9/11 will go round and round because there is no concrete proof that 9/11 was done by 19 hijackers with box cutters.

Then show us how the planes got there.
Proof please. Not speculation.

a reply to: samkent

Sorry, we can't. The tapes with Giant Killers instructions, which contradicted the scramble-orders from the Langley-fighters on that day, are still under strict lockdown. National security, you know.

You want us to believe, that the steel in those WTC-buildings was weakened from fires?
Well, ok. Proof please, not speculation.