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originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: beezzer
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: beezzer
Nope, and barry shouldn't use them so much either.
When Barry uses them, it's an act of war?
who's barry????......goldwater?...I thought he was dead
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: Southern Guardian
This is why Walker scares me. He is the scariest of the field of GOP runners, although several of them would probably be absolutely *delighted* to have the US military at their command so they could play their war games on the world stage.
Very scary!
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Southern Guardian
I don't see what good, war with Iran would do for US interests personally.
But Walker will only blame Obama for any actions he takes.
And for the record?
Obama has bombed;
Afghanistan,
Iraq,
Pakistan,
Somalia,
Yemen,
Libya and Syria with drones.
originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: beezzer
I would hardly call myself a ardent supporter of Obama.
In fact I have been pretty critical of him from day one I joined ATS.
Granted I dont think him your worst ever president. But I certainly dont think very highly of him.
How much diplomacy is enough diplomacy? How much is too little, too much?
Yeah, Obama was in the wrong for his use of drones.
Each president is responsible for their own actions.
No strawman. Unless you're willing to admit that you all used it for years in defending Obama.
A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument which was not advanced by that opponent.
I'm sorry, at what point did Obama campaign on a platform of more war?
originally posted by: beezzer
originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: beezzer
I would hardly call myself a ardent supporter of Obama.
In fact I have been pretty critical of him from day one I joined ATS.
Granted I dont think him your worst ever president. But I certainly dont think very highly of him.
Fair enough.
But don't you see what's happening here?
Walker hasn't even won a debate and people are already branding him a mad-dog killer-president for reacting to (and I love this part) all of Obama's policies.
originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes
I'm sorry, at what point did Obama campaign on a platform of more war?
originally posted by: beezzer
originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: beezzer
I would hardly call myself a ardent supporter of Obama.
In fact I have been pretty critical of him from day one I joined ATS.
Granted I dont think him your worst ever president. But I certainly dont think very highly of him.
Fair enough.
But don't you see what's happening here?
Walker hasn't even won a debate and people are already branding him a mad-dog killer-president for reacting to (and I love this part) all of Obama's policies.
originally posted by: Cheddarhead
I've seen what he's done right here in Wisconsin and amazingly, how he keeps the support of just enough voters to keep him in office.
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Southern Guardian
If Walker becomes president he will only be able to act in the arena of diplomacy that Obama has created.
If Obama has created a sound, secure diplomatic relationship with Iran, then there will be no need to go to war.
If Obama has failed to create a sound diplomatic atmosphere with Iran, then Obama will have dictated Walker's actions towards Iran.
It's all on Obama, what Walker does.
If Obama bungles the job, is an inept ass, messes everything up, then Walker will have no choice BUT to attack Iran.
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: amazing
I'm not letting Obama off the hook.
Walker can only react to foreign policies of the past on Day One of his regime.
I'm not letting Obama off the hook.
Walker can only react to foreign policies of the past on Day One of his regime.
originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: beezzer
I'm not letting Obama off the hook.
Walker can only react to foreign policies of the past on Day One of his regime.
Hold on, you're contradicting yourself here now. In one breath you complain that Obama's military actions are being unfairly blamed on Bush and not on Obama himself. You go on and on about this from the very first post on this thread. Then you post the above saying Walker's actions if he gets into the whitehouse will be on Obama? So if diplomacy is all fine, but Walker decides to declare war, it's still Obama's fault?
Hmm.