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Smoking-gun document said to prove Obama-Muslim Brotherhood ties

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posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:27 AM
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Smoking-gun document said to prove Obama-Muslim Brotherhood ties



WASHINGTON – The White House isn’t commenting on the exposure of a secret presidential directive, but critics tell WND it confirms what they feared: The Obama administration has an official policy of backing so-called “moderate Islamists,” including the jihadist group the Muslim Brotherhood.

A source familiar with the document told the Washington Times the “policy of backing the Muslim Brotherhood is outlined in a secret directive called Presidential Study Directive-11, or PSD-11.”

The governments of Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates officially consider the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization, but the presidential directive reportedly shows the White House considers the group a “moderate” alternative to ISIS and al-Qaida.

Critics blasted that notion.

Former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy, who has written extensively on the subject, told WND the Muslim Brotherhood “is not moderate” and “there is no such thing as a moderate Islamist.”

The identical response was given to WND by Iran specialist Clare Lopez of the Center for Security Policy.

“The Muslim Brotherhood is a jihadist organization, from the day of its founding and remains so to this day,” she said.

Whether violent or not, she said, all jihadists, such as the Muslim Brotherhood, seek the same two things: “Islamic governance and enforcement of Islamic law, or Shariah.”

Former Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., who tried to launch an inquiry three years ago into Muslim Brotherhood infiltration of the federal government, told WND, “It confirms the questions I originally asked of the inspector generals of five agencies.”


Well this is an interesting turn of event.

What do we think ATS?

* - Valid diplomatic overture or confirmation of all the stories saying Obama was supporting the Muslim Brotherhood? Don't forget Hillary Clinton - SecState, approved visas so members of those groups could visit the US.

* - Second question -
Would you consider this an impeachable offense?

* - Third question - How reliable do you think WND is when reporting?

Its an interesting but long read.
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posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:30 AM
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World news daily? anti-Obama paper. This is horse crap. Only people I've seen consort with the terrorists was Rumsfeld and the conservatives.
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posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:32 AM
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Do you have another source?



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:39 AM
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I bet they have another source, probably Fox News or Bill O'Reilly. Lol


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posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:39 AM
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There are a lot of sources out there for this, some going back to 2014. Trouble is, this directive is classified, which is odd itself.

Either way, I will be keeping an eye on this one....that could be a big blow to Obama if this document gets out and is confirmed.


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posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:39 AM
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Third question - How reliable do you think WND is when reporting?

When they start using nuts cases like Bachmann and McCarthy as sources it just shows that WND is a joke. Btw I thought WND was banned as a source here because it was shown that they post nothing but BS.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:42 AM
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Zionists claiming an Islamic infiltration of world governments is absolutely hilarious.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Is anybody surprised at this report?

It is not that the report goes against what has been displayed by Obama and would have his supporters shaking in rage. Rather, it is not earthshaking, but a confirmation of his words and actions over the years.


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posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:43 AM
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Reminds me of McCarthyism. The government is infiltrated with communists!!! There's a terrorist Muslim behind every tree. They are like the body snatchers.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
There are a lot of sources out there for this, some going back to 2014. Trouble is, this directive is classified, which is odd itself.

Either way, I will be keeping an eye on this one....that could be a big blow to Obama if this document gets out and is confirmed.

Actually it won't be because according to America the Brotherhood isn't a terrorist organization. They gave up on the Jihad crap decades ago and started building schools, hospitals and factories so people could have jobs. Pretty strange way for a Jihadist organization to act isn't it.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
Do you have another source?


So far its the op source. Glenn Beck picked up the story.

Currently no major media outlet is reporting on it so until then grain of sand. I would point out that the White House was asked about PSD-11 and refused to comment on it.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:45 AM
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originally posted by: damwel
World news daily? anti-Obama paper. This is horse crap. Only people I've seen consort with the terrorists was Rumsfeld and the conservatives.


Don't forget McCain in a meeting with Al-Baghdadi.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:45 AM
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Ther problem here is that it doesn't matter about the source anymore when it comes to stories like this, nor for that matter whether the story actually has any merit. It will cause a ship-storm, just as it is designed to do.

It will validate the "Obama is a Muslim, can't find his birth certificate" crowd whilst at the same time causing division and hate between Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

And, it will most likely be "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth haas had a chance to put it's pants on" scenario.

"It take 5 seconds to gain a reputation, and the rest of your life to lose it"

And I can't stand the prick, or his ilk, but it is obvious that there are bigger players here - the propaganda is strong with WND at the best of times and this just smacks of ulterior motive to keep folks focused on the 2-party system and "it's time for change"



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:46 AM
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What words and actions? Made up crap from his detractors? Oh I forgot he got health insurance for children and they tried to lie about that too. Despicable.

Glen Beck. Lmao. Just like I said. Take it from the man that said South Africa was a continent off the east coast of Africa and fake cries on his TV program. Please.
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posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010

Btw I thought WND was banned as a source here because it was shown that they post nothing but BS.


That would be news to me. Doesn't ATS have the source blocking protocol. I have seen other people whose source was banned where their post states its blocked on ATS. That didn't happen here so who knows.

Ill send an alert and ask the mods.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:48 AM
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PSD-11 was nothing more than a research and assessment project of the Muslim Brotherhood and many other Islamic political groups in the middle east.

What the president and US officials did with the information garnered from this study is questionable, but PSD-11 is far from a smoking gun of any kind.

This article from WND is a smoking gun in and of itself, as it shows that they disseminate propaganda. It is riddled with half-truths, distortions and key words that are designed to incite a negative response from someone that is brainwashed to hate Obama.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:50 AM
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Here is an article from 2014 stating the same things, though I have no idea if this source is credible.

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Dubai: For the past decade, two successive US administrations have maintained close ties to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Tunisia, Syria and Libya, to name just the most prominent cases.

The Obama administration conducted an assessment of the Muslim Brotherhood in 2010 and 2011, beginning even before the events known as the “Arab Spring” erupted in Tunisia and in Egypt. The President personally issued Presidential Study Directive 11 (PSD-11) in 2010, ordering an assessment of the Muslim Brotherhood and other “political Islamist” movements, including the ruling AKP in Turkey, ultimately concluding that the United States should shift from its longstanding policy of supporting “stability” in the Middle East and North Africa (that is, support for “stable regimes” even if they were authoritarian), to a policy of backing “moderate” Islamic political movements.

To this day, PSD-11 remains classified, in part because it reveals an embarrassingly naïve and uninformed view of trends in the Middle East and North Africa (Mena) region.

The revelations were made by Al Hewar centre in Washington, DC, which obtained the documents in question.

Through an ongoing Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit, thousands of pages of documentation of the US State Department’s dealings with the Muslim Brotherhood are in the process of being declassified and released to the public.

US State Department documents obtained under the FOIA confirm that the Obama administration maintained frequent contact and ties with the Libyan Muslim Brotherhood. At one point, in April 2012, US officials arranged for the public relations director of the Libyan Muslim Brotherhood, Mohammad Gaair, to come to Washington to speak at a conference on “Islamists in Power” hosted by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.


If true....this is not going to be good for the current administration.....



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: Xcathdra

Is anybody surprised at this report?

It is not that the report goes against what has been displayed by Obama and would have his supporters shaking in rage. Rather, it is not earthshaking, but a confirmation of his words and actions over the years.


No it isn't conformation of his actions. Idiots like Bachmann was crying Obama is giving money to the Brotherhood crap when Morsi became President of Egypt which was just another lie the Islamophobes were spreading. We were giving the money to Egypt not the Brotherhood which we had to do due to the peace agreement between Egypt and Israel.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:51 AM
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I would point out that the White House was asked about PSD-11 and refused to comment on it


And for a good reason.

It would be politically unwise to admit that the US government conducted a study and assessment program on all of the Islamic political groups in a region and used that to form it's plans going forward in the area.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 09:53 AM
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So Presidential Study Directive 11 was made August 2010

fas.org...

This NY Times article discusses this in 2011..

www.nytimes.com...

I'm guessing it's been leaked after nearly 5 years?

How different were the Muslim Brotherhood then compared to now?

Without seeing the actual report, it's hard to base an informed opinion on it, but a lot has changed between 2010 and now in the Middle East.




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