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originally posted by: wmd_2008
originally posted by: Doozied
wow looking at the footage again I could not see what I saw before and that is a square boarder around the craft that was pixelated and now I have changed my view about the craft and my view is that it looks and could very well could be genuine and I think that the craft would have to have been seen by the crew it was close enough to be obvious
If you look through the thread you would have saw this gif by member Ectoplasm8
originally posted by: onebigmonkey
The footage from the OP video is from the live TV broadcast, and the supposed UFO is actually the summit of a distant hill lit by the sun, which I have outlined in red in this google moon screenshot:
You can also see it in many still images, eg
www.lpi.usra.edu...
originally posted by: micpsi
And as for that animated gif, I must point out that it has been faked in order to explain away the anomaly, because the video clip clearly indicates that the anomalous object was much further to the right of the Moon lander, not directly behind it. If that had been the correct perceptive, there would have been no need for the film camera to be panned around the landscape before the image came into view. So the gif is an obvious fake, not the anomalous object.
originally posted by: micpsi
originally posted by: onebigmonkey
The footage from the OP video is from the live TV broadcast, and the supposed UFO is actually the summit of a distant hill lit by the sun, which I have outlined in red in this google moon screenshot:
You can also see it in many still images, eg
www.lpi.usra.edu...
Your explanation is inconsistent with the image of the anomalous object, which CLEARLY shows a GAP between the bright object and the Moon's surface, indicating that it was hovering.
And as for that animated gif, I must point out that it has been faked in order to explain away the anomaly, because the video clip clearly indicates that the anomalous object was much further to the right of the Moon lander, not directly behind it. If that had been the correct perceptive, there would have been no need for the film camera to be panned around the landscape before the image came into view. So the gif is an obvious fake, not the anomalous object.
originally posted by: admirethedistance
a reply to: micpsi
You're kidding, right? Please tell me you are, and you don't actually believe the tripe you posted, especially when faced with the overwhelming evidence to the contrary presented in this thread.
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
I don't know why there is so much focus on other pictures and not the original video which the discussion is about. No one can clearly show the hill from stills of the video, and you are right there is clearly space between the craft and the ground, not to mention the underside shadow.
People, if you want to disprove that this is not a UFO, focus on the video and please don't insult our intelligence with some pictures that are quite different from the video, could have been taken from different angles, different distance, could have been altered...........WHO CARES ABOUT OTHER PICTURES, IT IS THE VIDEO WE ARE DISCUSSING.
originally posted by: onebigmonkey
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
I don't know why there is so much focus on other pictures and not the original video which the discussion is about. No one can clearly show the hill from stills of the video, and you are right there is clearly space between the craft and the ground, not to mention the underside shadow.
People, if you want to disprove that this is not a UFO, focus on the video and please don't insult our intelligence with some pictures that are quite different from the video, could have been taken from different angles, different distance, could have been altered...........WHO CARES ABOUT OTHER PICTURES, IT IS THE VIDEO WE ARE DISCUSSING.
Nope. Sorry. You don't get to choose what is acceptable as evidence in this. The photos have been posted to demonstrate that you are mistaken, and do so quite convincingly. They have been in the publi domain for decades, as has the live TV broadcast from which these stills are taken.
There is no gap, there is no UFO.
Also. I've been away so I may have missed it: how do you explain the UFO hovering at such an extreme angle? The stills getting posted imply that the features are level, but they are not.
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
I'm surprised some here can't tell the difference between a hill and something that is not a hill.
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
a reply to: admirethedistance
Do you think I should listen to you and not think for myself?
originally posted by: admirethedistance
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
a reply to: admirethedistance
Do you think I should listen to you and not think for myself?
Not at all. I don't want anybody to blindly accept anything I say. But when every image clearly shows a hill, and everybody but you agrees, beyond any doubt, that it's a hill, maybe it's time to re-think your position.
originally posted by: micpsi
originally posted by: onebigmonkey
The footage from the OP video is from the live TV broadcast, and the supposed UFO is actually the summit of a distant hill lit by the sun, which I have outlined in red in this google moon screenshot:
You can also see it in many still images, eg
www.lpi.usra.edu...
Your explanation is inconsistent with the image of the anomalous object, which CLEARLY shows a GAP between the bright object and the Moon's surface, indicating that it was hovering.
And as for that animated gif, I must point out that it has been faked in order to explain away the anomaly, because the video clip clearly indicates that the anomalous object was much further to the right of the Moon lander, not directly behind it. If that had been the correct perceptive, there would have been no need for the film camera to be panned around the landscape before the image came into view. So the gif is an obvious fake, not the anomalous object.
originally posted by: admirethedistance
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE
You're right, I didn't realize there were two of you still arguing against hills being hills. I edited my above post.
originally posted by: Doozied
wow looking at the footage again I could not see what I saw before and that is a square boarder around the craft that was pixelated and now I have changed my view about the craft and my view is that it looks and could very well could be genuine and I think that the craft would have to have been seen by the crew it was close enough to be obvious
originally posted by: Kratos40
a reply to: canucks555
In preparation to throw away this account (as I am surprised it didn't happen sooner), I had an interesting conversation with Astronaut John Young a few years ago via chat.
The Apollo 16 module saw things and confirmed what Apollo 15 witnessed/recorded. Also what the Lunar Orbiters beforehand recorded.
Not many, but there are stuff that was left behind in a hurry, or was caught by surprise and destroyed. Millions, if not billions of years old.
Captain Young would not elaborate any further. Don't ask. Just leaving it for your consumption.
originally posted by: reldra
originally posted by: wmd_2008
originally posted by: reldra
I read the entire thread. I saw pictures of hills. It doesn't convince me that what is in the picture or the short video I saw is a hill.
originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
a reply to: reldra
Did you also catch that it's just a hilltop?
Yet another that thinks LOW RES pictures are something else!
Why would low res automatically make it a hill?
originally posted by: JourneymanWelder
if aliens landed on the white house lawn you guys would still demand proof
originally posted by: funbox
a reply to: baddmove
cheers for the link
slowed to 15% of actual speed and zoomed
seems to be a lot of activity around the 'hill' lots of specks of light zipping about , but I doubt they're spaceships
funbox
originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: canucks555 I have seen probably thousands of pictures and short videos form moon landings claiming to show alien craft. This is the first one that caused me to make some kind of loud noise...one of astonishment and sit straight up in my chair. Very good catch.