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a reply to: Movingobject

Yet Sweden, after it's recent 8 years of conservative rule, was slowly beginning to show signs of Americanism. The gap between rich and poor grew to the largest numbers ever. And just like in the United States they used the narrowing "rich" success stories in the media to tout the legitimacy of the new conservative approach. There were also some lovely gains in ethnic discrimination and xenophobia, just like the US. And just like the US, education and health care have suffered due to the cuts they instituted. So no, we may not be going the way of "more like Sweden", but they are trying to be "more like us" (maybe not anymore now that the conservative party was voted out last year). But Norway's liberal capitalism (since even Norway could not actually be considered "socialist"), as I see it, probably a better way to go.

I have no idea who I am voting for yet, but I do know that they will be

Fiscally conservative
Socially conservative

And that probably means third party, since no Republican candidate can seem to be both and win the nomination, and Democratic candidates are just straight up corrupt and double minded (not that Republicans aren't, necessarily).

I cannot remember the last figure of trillions that we have lost, just lost, in Iraq and Afghanistan. How come conservatives like to give foreigners nice things? Cause there is never a cry out over that. But, boy you mention universal health care for americans, and the hate expressed for your own countryman is sad. It is time to reward americans with good things and give education to all that want it. That is more important than war, cash, oil for the future. If anyone cares about the future anymore.

a reply to: introvert

Your idea to re-allocate money from war to healthcare sounds good in theory but here is how it works out in fact:
swampland.time.com...

Can you show me that free medical care is correlated with improved health in a multi-country study? If not, you are merely guessing and could be guessing wrongly. It would seem obvious that giving people free health care would increase their health. But, what you're missing is that the government does evil, and when people who do evil as a policy and way of life are giving you free health care, it may not be what you actually want and what is actually good for you.

In the USA, the only industries with costs that are spiraling upward are the industries with the most government intervention. Healthcare, banking, and food industries are highly regulated in the USA even to the point against the US constitution for each one. Yet, those are the three industries with costs that are spiraling out of control. Costs are now so high for hospitals that you typically cannot pay for it without government "help". What you don't understand is that its the government that made it expensive in the first place.

The solution is to eliminate government spending on healthcare, which is the opposite of what you are telling me. By eliminating government spending on healthcare, the costs plummet and suddenly the middle class would be able to afford it, and the middle class would grow all other things being equal.

a reply to: MOMof3

Unfortunately it works both ways doesn't it.

The 20th Century Liberals outspent everybody with WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Korea, Bosnia, etc. etc.

a reply to: wayforward

That article is from 2010. After Obamacare, my insurance is not free. I pay 350 just me, every month. The only difference is, I am not punished for pre existing conditions under ACA.

The solution is Medicare for all. Everyone pays at least $106 per month.

originally posted by: MOMof3

The solution is Medicare for all. Everyone pays at least $106 per month.

I wonder if the Sanders Campaign will be explaining that.

They should get the details and publish an official series of statements.

a reply to: Everlastingknowitall

Fiscally conservative
Socially conservative

So - Scott Walker, then. He'd be your man, then - right? Wisconsin? About the same as Mike Pence, isn't he?

Or, Sam Brownback, if he was running. Yeah, we're saddled with his disastrous policies here in Kansas. You want him?? Take him, please.

Or Rick Perry. Ted Cruz. Rick Santorum. Ben Carson.

ANY of those "New Apolostolic Reformationist/Seven-Mountain-Dominionist" Evangelical Bible thumping holier-than-thou types. Right? ..... Would Palin have suited you? Or Bachmann?
Seems to me you have multiple choices there, Everlastingknowitall.

originally posted by: wayforward
a reply to: introvert


In the USA, the only industries with costs that are spiraling upward are the industries with the most government intervention. Healthcare, banking, and food industries are highly regulated in the USA even to the point against the US constitution for each one. Yet, those are the three industries with costs that are spiraling out of control. Costs are now so high for hospitals that you typically cannot pay for it without government "help". What you don't understand is that its the government that made it expensive in the first place.

The ones you picked are state side requirements they could not outsource otherwise our corporate owned government would have done so.

You'll never cut costs as long as this exist

Top Lobbying Industries

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Insurance $2,115,888,177
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Hospitals/Nursing Homes $1,277,629,621
Securities & Investment $1,218,274,363
Civil Servants/Public Officials $1,182,443,515
Real Estate $1,181,046,581
Health Professionals $1,148,899,336
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Misc Issues $901,519,856
Automotive $860,004,637
Telecom Services & Equipment $828,767,537
Telephone Utilities $816,421,236
Health Services/HMOs $811,712,554

a reply to: okrian

But Norway's liberal capitalism (since even Norway could not actually be considered "socialist"), as I see it, probably a better way to go.

Exactly.
Worth investigating, anyway.
And the UK and Australia, I believe, as well as Canada, all have Universal Health Care.
They haven't come unglued.

a reply to: thesaneone

Lie To Me.

originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: ugmold

Ron Paul was/is 1,000 times more popular and he got rail-roaded....You actually think this guys stands even a teeny tiny chance? NOPE.....They already have the next president all lined up, and my bet is his last name rhymes with Bush.....

I'll take that bet.
What is your wager?

originally posted by: MrPlow

originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: ugmold

Ron Paul was/is 1,000 times more popular and he got rail-roaded....You actually think this guys stands even a teeny tiny chance? NOPE.....They already have the next president all lined up, and my bet is his last name rhymes with Bush.....

I'll take that bet.
What is your wager?

Good bet.

The difference between Rand and his Dad, is Rand has the cojones to stand up and get noticed for the right reasons in the media. He knows how to use social media, and he has more young people on his side. Not that Ron Paul didn't, but Rand takes it to new levels.

If the left and right hate him, he's doing something VERY, VERY right!

a reply to: xuenchen

I sent him an email and told him all my ideas. I do that with every candidate that I am interested in. No one listens, obviously, or the world would be a better place.

a reply to: xuenchen

If the current field of republicans become the commander of chief, they will send our kids and money back into the ME cesspool. I have not heard that from any of the democrat candidates. Is it not time to learn from the past? Is it not time to remember just 50 years ago the same mistake in Viet Nam? The ME is IS Hamburger Hill.

originally posted by: amicktd
He's just another herder looking for his sheep. He will definitely find plenty of them on this site. There hasn't been one politician in office in my entire lifetime that wasn't a scumbag and only looked out for themselves. Until that changes, screw voting!

if you don't vote, you have no right to complain.

Once again showing Bernie IS the one who represents most of Americans on the issues.

Bernie Sanders is the only one with a real plan that will work and people are starting to notice.

Bernie is polling well in Wisconsin

Sanders Scores Big in 'Significant' Wisconsin Straw Poll


Results show gap between Sanders and Clinton narrowing as Vermont senator gets 41 percent of delegate votes

www.commondreams.org...

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

hey man thanks. but i believe it is your responsibility to figure out what type of person you are and then how you deal with it.