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Any idea what is written on the sides of the books in Plato and Aristotles hands?
The popular idea that the rhetorical gestures of Plato and Aristotle are kinds of pointing (to the heavens, and down to earth) is very likely. But Plato’s Timaeus – which is the book Raphael places in his hand – was a sophisticated treatment of space, time, and change, including the Earth, which guided mathematical sciences for over a millennium. Aristotle, with his four-elements theory, held that all change on Earth was owing to motions of the heavens. In the painting Aristotle carries his Ethics, which he denied could be reduced to a mathematical science.
I could say farts are different from the gas inside your belly and it could be true or it could not be true. Depends on how you look at it
But that's the progressive thing to do, move away from the wisdoms of old ones established. Soon people won't care about Ghandi and just consider him a wierd spiritual person.
There are fundamental differences between the emphasis of Zarathustra and his doctrine of free will in choosing truth over falsehood as the path that determines one's fate and the Buddah's consideration that self identity was an illusion and impediment to Oneness, he saw no value in giving up one's most precious possession the soul and encouraged all effort to nurture it.
Zoroaster emphasized the freedom of the individual to choose right or wrong and individual responsibility for one's deeds. This personal choice to accept aša or arta (the divine order), and shun druj (ignorance and chaos) is one's own decision and not a dictate of Ahura Mazda. For Zarathustra, by thinking good thoughts, saying good words, and doing good deeds (e.g. assisting the needy or doing good works) we increase this divine force aša or arta in the world and in ourselves, celebrate the divine order, and we come a step closer on the everlasting road to being one with the Creator. Thus, we are not the slaves or servants of Ahura Mazda, but we can make a personal choice to be his co-workers, thereby refreshing the world and ourselves.
I shall recognize Thee as strong and holy, Ahuramazda, when Thou wilt help me by the hand with which Thou holdest the recompenses that Thou wilt give, through the heat of Thy truth-strong fire, to the wicked man and the just - and when the might of Good Purpose shall come to me.
Hosea elevated the religion of Israel to the altitude of ethical monotheism, being the first to emphasize the moral side of God's nature. Israel's faithlessness, which resisted all warnings, compelled Him to punish the people because of His own holiness. Hosea considers infidelity as the chief sin, of which Israel, the adulterous wife, has been guilty against her loving husband, God. Against this he sets the unquenchable love of God, who, in spite of this infidelity, does not cast Israel away forever, but will take His people unto Himself again after the judgment.
Book of Hosea
13:4"Yet I am Yahweh your God from the land of Egypt; and you shall acknowledge no god but me, and besides me there is no savior.
Hosea World English Translation
originally posted by: Kantzveldt
A great revelation that i would like to discuss here is that the Biblical Apocalyptic tradition does not source back to the Hebrews but was rather a reinterpretation of the Prophetic tradition informed by Persian influence, …….
It relates to the unveiling of the master plan over time and all the jollity along the trail, nobody said otherwise, except you.
The revealing of what you assume is the master plan through ANY form of religion is utter foolishness.It is you not me that is trying to propagate that foolish notion.If you are trying to decode the book of revelation and harmonize it with the religious traditions of the world that are completely false you will get what you paid for …nothing..
That is my point.You are reading into what John wrote which is not the reason it was written.It is the common malady of the times.The internet is not the fountainhead of knowledge and just because you “read” or even studied some articles or even books of ancient religious practices does not make you an expert or enlightened but is proof you know nothing of truth.Using information incorrectly to prove something right is wrong headed.
The fact is all of the stuff you are quoting is just religious belief and has no foundation in truth of reality whatsover.To believe what is written in the book of revelation is just a reinterpretation of of Persian prophecy influence is hubris of the highest order first because it is 100% speculation.You have ZERO idea what the book of revelation is about how could you or anyone possibly know it’s a reinterpretation of Persian prhohecey and all the other nonsense you are propagating in this thread.
My good friend and despicable atheist Pthena will gladly avail themselves to you in a sensible long drawn out friendly debate because that is his character.
Genes express based on environment and beliefs. (Dr. Bruce Lipton)
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Gen. 48:5 And now thy two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, which were born unto thee in the land of Egypt before I came unto thee into Egypt, are mine; as Reuben and Simeon, they shall be mine.
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14 And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim's head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn.
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17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.
18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.
19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
But Christianity did not speak of anything like "in a thousand years will come ... and in 2000 years will come ...". Rather, Christianity and its Christ, and Judaism which developed along side of it presented themselves as end-all/be-alls until the "age to come.