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But that isn't what John Chapter 5 is about. It's about his work, including healing on the Sabbath as testifying of the god who sent him. And that he, Jesus gives life to those who hear him.
Thank you - this is a new idea for me.
His entire message was about how we treat others
It is tempting to view the problems of the past as ancient history-long resolved and no longer relevant to our lives. The effects of manifest destiny, however, continue today. American Indian Nations are still in court over land disputes, and countless native people suffer from extreme poverty and other social problems as a result of past policies. September 11th and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have ignited age-old debates about U.S. objectives. Though the public discourse no longer includes terms such as "expansion," "discovery," and "destiny," discussions about globalization, preemptive war, and the responsibilities of the world's only "superpower" echo familiar themes. It is perhaps fitting that this dialogue ensues as the country commemorates the bicentennial of the Lewis and Clark expedition, or Corps of Discovery, which paved the way for U.S. expansion.
I prefer to think of it as a rational discussion about what God is, and what he is not...
There is no "biblical plundering" in the NT... no conquering, waging wars against men and other civilizations...
The war flipped from the physical to the spiritual. No more sacrifice (until Paul made Jesus "the sacrifice")
And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
So the "spiritual war" is a war of ideas, against what exactly?
But let's do this then. Tell me about your God. Specifically, what is his relationship to the Shema?
That Shema is in the very same chapter of Deuteronomy as is the Opening Post verse. And "all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." Seems like a rather all consuming activity right there. Not much energy left for anything else.
Important question: What exactly does your God want or expect from me, a Gentile?
its funny how people say "your God"... I do it too when I speak to Christians about the OT god...
John 5:43 I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me. If someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. 44How can you believe, if you accept praise from one another and don’t seek the praise that comes from the only God?
What does HE want of from you?
Love your neighbour as you love yourself... On these two rules all the law and the prophets hang...
Luke 18 WEB(World English Bible)
18A certain ruler asked him, saying, "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" 19Jesus asked him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good, except one—God. 20You know the commandments: 'Don't commit adultery,' 'Don't murder,' 'Don't steal,' 'Don't give false testimony,' 'Honor your father and your mother.'" 21He said, "I have observed all these things from my youth up." 22When Jesus heard these things, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell all that you have, and distribute it to the poor. You will have treasure in heaven. Come, follow me." 23But when he heard these things, he became very sad, for he was very rich. 24Jesus, seeing that he became very sad, said, "How hard it is for those who have riches to enter into the Kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to enter in through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God." 26Those who heard it said, "Then who can be saved?" 27But he said, "The things which are impossible with men are possible with God."
28Peter said, "Look, we have left everything, and followed you." 29He said to them, "Most certainly I tell you, there is no one who has left house, or wife, or brothers, or parents, or children, for the Kingdom of God's sake, 30who will not receive many times more in this time, and in the world to come, eternal life."
I have a whole thread that deals with my experience with monotheists. It isn't really funny. So your personal monotheistic god is the OT fellow brushed off and correctly revealed by Jesus.
Seriously, what was the attitude of gospel Jesus about Gentiles and Heathens?
And Jesus taught his disciples saying:
"When you do this, do it like this, not like the Gentiles.
and when you do that, do it like that, not like the heathen do it."
So the World without Jesus is a dark ignorant World with no concept of love. Wow! And we needed Jesus to bring us dark blighted souls into fellowship with the real one and only god that the Old Testament hinted about. Double Wow!
Whatever gospel Jesus thinks about me, a heathen Gentile, right back at him!
Now that I'm down to his level, I feel like crap.
......Eternal Life, Treasure in Heaven, Kingdom of God, being Saved, Present Day Rewards, World to Come.
All that you have to do is give up all your current social and economic connections to life and all these can be yours.
But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
Acts 4:32The multitude of those who believed were of one heart and soul. Not one of them claimed that anything of the things which he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common. 33With great power, the apostles gave their testimony of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. Great grace was on them all. 34For neither was there among them any who lacked, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, 35and laid them at the apostles' feet, and distribution was made to each, according as anyone had need.
Vain repetitions, which he explains is pointless...
One possibility is an interpretation traced to Cicero, connecting lego "read", i.e. re (again) + lego in the sense of "choose", "go over again" or "consider carefully".
Christian hypocrisy is astounding... and it permeates their ranks
It's pointless to read things over and over to gain understanding? It's pointless to think about personal experiences over and over to gain some understanding or carefully consider things?
With great power, the apostles gave their testimony of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. Great grace was on them all. 34For neither was there among them any who lacked, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, 35and laid them at the apostles' feet, and distribution was made to each, according as anyone had need.
[According to Josephus] Essenes loved each other more than others, renounced riches (they were the Poor) and kept no servants, ministering to one another, eating only the simplest food and wearing their clothes and shoes to shreds. They held their goods in common yielding their possessions to the order when they joined and contributing all their earnings. Failure to do this was a grave dishonesty and was severely punished.
These men are despisers of riches, and so very communicative as raises our admiration. Nor is there any one to be found among them who hath more than another; for it is a law among them, that those who come to them must let what they have be common to the whole order, — insomuch that among them all there is no appearance of poverty, or excess of riches, but every one's possessions are intermingled with every other's possessions, and so there is, as it were, one patrimony among all the brethren.
And whereas everything spoken by them is more forceful than an oath, swearing itself they avoid, considering it worse than the false oath; for they declare to be already degraded one who is unworthy of belief without God.
Josephus The Jewish Wars Book II Chapter 8
its pointless to repeat prayer as if the more you do it the more God will hear you...
The "hail mary" for example
According to St. Gertrude (1256–1301), the Blessed Virgin Mary promised the following: "To any soul who faithfully prays the Three Hail Marys I will appear at the hour of death in a splendor of beauty so extraordinary that it will fill the soul with Heavenly consolation."
Three Hail Marys#Revelations_from_the_Blessed_Virgin_Mary
He agrees with Josephus that the Essenes lived all over Judaea but maintains that they preferred to live in villages not towns. They avoided towns because of the contagion of evils rife within them. The sick and elderly were cared for—the scrolls tell us that the infirm and the sick were already spiritually saved under the guardianship of the angels of holiness.