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Report: Parents of missing Madeleine McCann win libel payout

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posted on Apr, 28 2015 @ 03:55 PM
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LISBON, Portugal -- A Portuguese court has awarded the parents of missing British girl Madeleine McCann damages of 500,000 euro after a libel trial, reports the BBC.

Kate and Gerry McCann sued ex-police chief Goncalo Amaral, who led the search after their daughter vanished from a Portuguese resort in May 2007.

In his book, "The Truth of the Lie," Amaral reportedly wrote that the McCann's had hidden their daughter's body and faked an abduction after she died in an accident. The former officer was found guilty of libel, but can reportedly appeal the ruling

Report: Parents of missing Madeleine McCann win libel payout

So, the bank of McCann make another quick buck off their dead daughter.

This can be added to the milions they've recieved in donations that they used to pay off their mortage..this little dead girl has made her parents super rich.

They wanted 1,000,000 euros but they've had to make do with only half the amount.

The McCanns said today they were "delighted" with the court's ruling.

In a statement issued by their family spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, the couple said: "We want to emphasise the action was never about money.

If it wasn't about money, then why don't they give every penny to a childrens hospital then...
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posted on Apr, 28 2015 @ 04:02 PM
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This couple sickens me.

They should be prosecuted for neglect.

I cannot understand why it's never been investigated - anyone leaving their children alone in a flat to go out drinking is normally considered worthy of a visit from child services.



posted on Apr, 28 2015 @ 04:40 PM
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Shouldn't it be proven that they didn't do that before its libel.



posted on Apr, 28 2015 @ 04:48 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Shouldn't it be proven that they didn't do that before its libel.


I agree with this...

Until a body shows up, alive or dead, how is libel proven..?

In addition, they "were hoping for a million"..? Something tells me they prefer the Courts award over having their daughter returned to them.




posted on Apr, 28 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: BestinShow

Without a doubt their best interest lies in sympathy & money...

They can sue me for that.



My first thread was about all their contradictions.

Scumbags.



posted on Apr, 28 2015 @ 05:55 PM
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Is it true that conclusions should be based on fact and not speculation? Which facts in this case are beyond doubt? I would like to know the truth in this case. If you have irrefutable proof of one outcome or another in this case please present it. If all you have is speculation then you have nothing new to offer. I would like very much for this case to be resolved beyond doubt. I am not personally or financially involved in this case. If you have irrefutable truth regarding the disappearance of this child, then I ask again, please present it.
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posted on Apr, 28 2015 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: hotel1

My own thoughts tend to lean towards the parents are responsible for the death of the child, more than likely through neglect or accident than malicious intent.

Something hasn't felt right about the whole thing from day 1.

Somehow, the little girl has died, directly or indirectly as a result of their actions, they panicked and came up with the "official" version of events.

Speculation on my part, and I am in no way implying they were bad parents or guilty of murder....accidents happen easily enough, telling the truth however isn't so easy, given the circumstance.
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posted on Apr, 28 2015 @ 06:20 PM
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There's a series of vids (I'll try to find them in a mo) thats suggests they were kiddy fiddlers, another doctor even reported them for it! Its also suggested thats why the british government were SO QUICKLY involved!
Dont know if any of that is true, but I don't see why a doctor should go to the police with such a statement unless he seriously thought it to be true, and the govs involvement and behaviour certainly was very strange.



posted on Apr, 28 2015 @ 06:30 PM
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I knew it was on here somewhere


From THIS THREAD

Madeleine McCann: Buried by the Mainstream Media_ Exhumed by the Alternate Media in New Documentary

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posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 06:54 AM
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Is she dead? Are you concluding that?

The only thing I didn't understand was that they took their small children on holiday to another country. I don't know if that is normal to do, but it isn't something I would do.

I can see taking them to Disneyland, but Portugal?

I think maybe there were a lot of parents who take their children on holiday and leave them in rooms asleep. Isn't that what the McCann's said, that the children were asleep?

Too bad the hotel didn't have security cameras. We just may never find out, but how strange would it be to think that from the moment they got to the hotel that a nefarious individual had already scoped them out and said "Oh, another British couple unaware of how dangerous people are in the rest of the world" and then took her.

But then again, how strange would it be that perhaps Daddy McCann had already conversed on the phone with a nefarious person. But then again, why wait to go to Portugal to kill their child or say it is abducted? They could have done that in the UK and created a story of what happened.

ETA: But then again....Madeiline woke up, didn't know where her parents were, opened the door herself and then was abducted by someone who could have simply led her to their room, sexually assaulted her and then later took her body elsewhere.

This could have happened. What evidence is the abductor came in, when she could have walked out herself? I've seen little children opening doors themselves.

Little children do open doors, so it doesn't seem unreasonable that a 3 year-old could do this.

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posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 08:37 AM
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originally posted by: WarminIndy
a reply to: andy1972


Is she dead? Are you concluding that?

The only thing I didn't understand was that they took their small children on holiday to another country. I don't know if that is normal to do, but it isn't something I would do.

I can see taking them to Disneyland, but Portugal?

I think maybe there were a lot of parents who take their children on holiday and leave them in rooms asleep. Isn't that what the McCann's said, that the children were asleep?

Too bad the hotel didn't have security cameras. We just may never find out, but how strange would it be to think that from the moment they got to the hotel that a nefarious individual had already scoped them out and said "Oh, another British couple unaware of how dangerous people are in the rest of the world" and then took her.

But then again, how strange would it be that perhaps Daddy McCann had already conversed on the phone with a nefarious person. But then again, why wait to go to Portugal to kill their child or say it is abducted? They could have done that in the UK and created a story of what happened.

ETA: But then again....Madeiline woke up, didn't know where her parents were, opened the door herself and then was abducted by someone who could have simply led her to their room, sexually assaulted her and then later took her body elsewhere.

This could have happened. What evidence is the abductor came in, when she could have walked out herself? I've seen little children opening doors themselves.

Little children do open doors, so it doesn't seem unreasonable that a 3 year-old could do this.


I take it you haven't watched the four videos above then ?

The sniffer dogs, the best in the world with the probably the worlds best handler, found traces of blood on the wall and the dog specialised in smelling CADAVERS, that means a DEAD person, also signalled that there had been a dead body in the bedroom, the boot of the car that they hired and the key card that operated the car, not to mention the same smell on two items of clothing the mother wore and the small pink doll of Maddie's, so yes, I'm concluding she was dead from day one.

What is also telling. and bares watching again and again and has been completely ignored and crushed by the MSM is the clip on the second video at 41 minutes. Two doctors, Katherine and Savio Gaspar, who were friends of the McCanns years ago and went on holiday with them and their "friend" David Payne, watch it, it leaves more questions than answers. This should have been MSM as soon as it came out and this guy thoroughly investigated, because for me..he's upto his neck in this.

The most chilling part of this is why so many top level people have given a hand in covering it all up, what do these two have that makes the government of England shake so much that it goes to extraordinary lengths to protect them?
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posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 08:49 AM
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Thank you for the videos, I hadn't seen them before...this is just one strange case, but I think the guilty party (parties) is (are) pretty obvious.

Time will tell, the perfect crime doesn't exist, and even though these bastards think they have tied up all the loose ends, they will fall in the end, and everyone who's had a hand in this shoud fall with them.

i knew this case was different from the start when the government gave them there own liason from the foreign office to deal with the press, and then the money started rolling in.....
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posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: andy1972

I started to watch the videos after my post.

I am thinking this Dr. Payne is really quite strange..why would he "offer" to go check on Kate, is it like Kate needed help changing diapers?

Seems a little "flirty winky dinky" might have been going on.

Why does any husband ask his friend to go check on his wife and kids instead of going himself? And why do parents take their kids on holiday just to later run around playing and having fun while they claim the children are sleeping? Who does that?

I thought the point of taking kids on holiday was to have family fun. Yes, Payne is sounding very strange to me.



posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 09:09 AM
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Another thing that keeps popping up throughout the videos are people who are specialists in ECONOMIC CRIMES, money laundering experts and fraudsters.

Even the two private detectives from Control Risk Groups are ex police specialising in ECONOMIC CRIMES, Kenneth Farrow, ex head economic crimes unit City Of London police and his partner the ex superintendent specialising in fraud ??

What do they know about child abduction?

Why does all this smell like its just one HUGE tremendous money making and laundering scheme, with the girl being used as the bait for the Great British public.

While everyones worried about peadophiles, no ones looking at the money rolling in and rolling out, after all, this is about an abduction and a murder, right ?
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posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 05:30 PM
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I haven't read the judgment in the case. It is in Portuguese on the mccannfiles.com website at the following link:

www.mccannfiles.com...

The lawsuit that led to the judgment was not entirely successful. Fourteen of the claims were rejected, but more than eighty were upheld. As I understand it, the claims were largely about "pain and anxiety" caused by Amaral's book, which has now been banned in Portugal. European law might mean that the ban extends across Europe.

Amaral came to conclusions based on the information contained in police case files on the Madeleine disappearance. He was for a time, the chief investigating officer on the case. Conclusions that he arrived at in his book depended heavily upon the indications of sniffer dogs who alerted to cadaver scent in the apartment. I think this was a key mistake that Amaral made.

Courts do not accept sniffer dog indications as evidence for very good reasons. Sniffer dogs are investigative tools only, in almost all jurisdictions.

To come to conclusions about the involvement of Madeleine's parents in her disappearance, based on sniffer dog indications that the child died in the apartment, is to rush to judgment.

Amaral also concluded that the parents staged a break in at the apartment, because there was no evidence of a break in that they asserted had taken place. What almost everyone fails to note is that there is also no evidence of a staged break in.

The shutters in the children's bedroom were not "jemmied", not by a kidnapper and not by the McCanns. There was no staged break in.

I think Amaral should have been more cautious in what he wrote. I think he placed unfounded confidence in the sniffer dogs and their handler and failed to see that there was no "staged" break in.

Amaral's heart is in the right place. I think that a lot of the McCann's behavior which aroused so much suspicion, was caused by their frantic attempts to avoid an appearance of negligence on the night Madeleine disappeared. If I were them, considering jobs and remaining children to support, I would have done much as they did.

I think it is unfortunate that Amaral is paying for this error in judgment on his part in such a heavy financial way. I do believe that parts of this story have been obscured for political reasons. I don't know if Madeleine's parents are responsible for her disappearance, but I believe that if they were, they were operating under extreme time pressure that night. Is it possible that the time line we are familiar with, is not accurate? I don't think that aspect of the case has been thoroughly vetted.

Amaral may be right in some ways about this case but in his book he did not elucidate the case in all its subtlety.
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posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 07:32 PM
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The only thing we know for definate if that they left their small children alone to go have food or drinks with thier friends. Tha to me is negligence of the highest order. You take your crotch fruit on holiday with you then you have to be prepared to either stay with them at all times or spring for a child minder.

It amazes me then nothing has even been mentioned to them about this. If this has been a less well off family from a council estate you could bet everything you have that social services would be all over them. They seem utterly untouchable and the whole thing stinks.

As far as im concerned there was only one victim that night, Poor madaline. A victim of either kidnapping or murder and a victim of the neglegent parents.



posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 07:47 PM
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Is this website for or against the McCanns?

What bothers me is that they allowed their children to sleep alone while they went out and had a good time. From the website, Gerry equated it with "going out back to mow the grass".

Sorry, but if you go ANYWHERE traveling with your children, you NEVER leave them alone. That is neglect, and I don't care how many times you claim to check on them, it is still neglect.





From this photo, it is a very long way from the bar to the room....and they thought their kids would be safe? Seems very ridiculous to me that they said they kept going back every half hour to check on them, if they did that, how would they have been able to enjoy dinner or their fun? That's a long way to walk back and forth every half hour.

The street is closer than the bar was.

I really have to say, David Payne and Gerry both seem to be very strange to me. When I read that the men gave the little girls baths...other parents' children....that is highly suspicious. I would NEVER let a male friend give my little girl a bath. Why was David Payne so eager to do this? In cases of sexual abuse that is called conditioning.

And they said the dogs picked up the scent of blood? He most likely raped her, he probably smothered her to death to muffle the screams.

I may be off on this...but it really is looking like that to me.

And the men were probably sharing each others children. That's how I see it now.

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posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 08:26 PM
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I don't know about the rest, but it's weird that they left them. I don't understand how that could be considered an acceptable thing to do... ever.

I'm usually the first to say "Don't jump to conclusions" but leaving young children unattended while you are in a foreign country is so far out of my scope of experience I can't even imagine it. I mean what the heck?! I didn't like having my daughter out of my sight while we were in a foreign country.

That is just so... weird.



posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: redhorse
a reply to: andy1972

I don't know about the rest, but it's weird that they left them. I don't understand how that could be considered an acceptable thing to do... ever.

I'm usually the first to say "Don't jump to conclusions" but leaving young children unattended while you are in a foreign country is so far out of my scope of experience I can't even imagine it. I mean what the heck?! I didn't like having my daughter out of my sight while we were in a foreign country.

That is just so... weird.



Exactly. I agree completely.

It's almost like they were expecting it to happen. What kind of parent does that?

I see that Kate and David Payne are both doctors...and yet doctors question the sniffing dogs? They know better because doctors often prescribe helper dogs for patients.

Starting to smell a little more fishy.



posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 09:21 PM
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This is a very complicated case. To understand it well, one must read a lot of material or look at a lot of the videos made about the case. Most people don't have time for that.

mccannfiles.com is one of the better websites devoted to the case. There is a lot of material on that site.

One of the interesting blogs on the Madeleine case is unterdenteppichgekehrt (sweptunderthecarpet), but the link to it now leads to a message saying that the blog is open to readers "by invitation only".

unterdenteppichgekehrt.blogspot.co.uk...

I'm assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that this is an example of libel fright. The blogger, Johanna, was quite outspoken in her belief that Kate and Gerry McCann were responsible for their daughter's disappearance. Her main point was that Madeleine had died a day before she was reported to be missing. She believed that a witness who said she saw Madeleine with her father at the Ocean Club creche the day she was reported missing, was mistaken or confused about the date, although this person was interviewed by police only two or three days after May 3, 2007, the day Madeleine was reported missing.

Johanna is one who had a belief in the integrity and accuracy of the sniffer dog indications. At first, I shared that view, but when I saw the full video of the search of the villa the McCanns stayed in after moving out of the Ocean Club, my faith in the dog handler and the dogs was severely shaken.

The video is available on mccannfiles.com. The damage is done in the first few minutes. If you watch the video, keep your eye on "Cuddle Cat" and you will see what I mean. The video I am referring to is the long version of the villa search. Note how the first "alert" is unexplained until later in the video. How did "Cuddle Cat" get to the location of the first, unexplained alert, when it was in another room, earlier in the video, where the dog did not alert to it by barking, which is the only legitimate "alert"?

The video is here:

www.mccannfiles.com...

The important events, to which I am referring, happen in the first six minutes of the video.

It will be interesting to see if the McCanns turn their legal team loose on anyone else among those commenting on the case.
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