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originally posted by: KAOStheory
Here is my "NOTES" for this job:
I know that you love music, but aren’t a musician, so let me explain a couple points that will help you to understand the differences between analyzing a pop song, as opposed to traditional or spiritual music or chants.
In most pop music, the artist/author is not at all aware of the color-octaves or other physical and vibratory correlations whatsoever. In spiritual music and chanting, some are, and some are not. However, intuition and instruction are fine-tuned, and intent is present, so it “works.”
It also “works” in pop music, whether the author or listener knows it or not.
But doesn’t “work” with any kind of conscious intent, and often in pop music, the authors intuitions are not as trustworthy. They are not even true to their own spiritual beliefs, let alone a monk, priest, shaman, or etc.
Nor are they “classically” trained musicians, and their intuitions are often influenced by drugs or alcohol.
Music generally consists of three elements – rhythm, harmony, and melody.
In popular music, the rhythm – if not just a computerized drum machine – is metered by a metronome, rather than allowing the drummer to set the “flow” of the entire group. The drums or drum machine track is programmed or recorded first.
Then, as you can tell from all the recent “autotune” stuff, the bass and melody are recorded (or programmed in.) This is also exact with no room for fluctuations or the beautiful “ornamentation” as it’s called in chants. Unless it’s a stringed instrument, then a little play is allowed.
Then the harmonies are included, but layered far in the background. There are Hindu, Rosicrucian, Theosophical and Anthroposophical theories (and more I’m sure) regarding 3rds, 5ths, and 7ths in scales that are often beyond me in comprehension, in relation to other planes and dimensions. These are the important overtones, which may contain valuable information on a subconscious level, yet they are buried, hidden, or “occult” – as their message are in this dimension as well.
These tight restrictions on the production of modern pop music are fairly recent.
The electronic guitar tuner was only invented in the 1980’s, and more often than not, people tuned by intuition, or by a nearby piano, or by playing a recording of a song which they knew was in a certain key, and tuning to it. As a result, after the guitar tuning to the bass, then the other guitar tuning to the first, then the bass double-checking, the band may end up sharp or flat after “fine-tuning” to each other, as opposed to each person just using the same electronic means. Which was acceptable, as long as they were in tune with each other.
Drummers were allowed to just play and follow their own meter. They are the heartbeat of the band, and over time, would become intuitive to their band’s “collective consciousness.” I remember band practices or shows back in the 1980’s or 1990’s where often in practice or at a show, we would play a song quite noticeably slower or faster than usual. After, we would discuss how though different, it was appropriate to not only our personal mood, but also that of the audience. This doesn’t happen often in this day and age of strict electronic production.
Unfortunately, this strict digitization of rhythm and melody have also coincided with the age of the DJ or “producer,” as opposed to the “band” or “group.” And now when you go to a drum circle or “jam session,” it sucks! No one can “play well with others!”
Why? Because everyone is in their own individual little world, with no computer to tell them what tempo to follow, and they don’t know how to follow a human “leader” and connect in to the collective consciousness. They are always a little “off.”
If they even bother to elect a “leader,” they ignore them. It’s kind of like society in general.
I feel that this digitation, combined with the “pitch standard” of A440Hz and its poor correlations to human energy centers and physics, are quite possibly responsible for the decline in quality of “popular” music. The fact that you and I even “feel” so strongly about music in this day and age, is testament to its power and importance in our daily lives.
originally posted by: KAOStheory
a reply to: luthier
Well if i were examining multiple tracks using multiple temperaments and scales i would, but all of the songs are equal tempered A440 (so far) and all of the chants are 7-note scales in perfect fifths. So that was indicated in the forms.
Very cool that you make musical instruments, and specialize in Hindu musics. I plan to visit India to learn sitar.
I wonder if you've seen this article, or if you could recognize any scales in the frequencies they found in our DNA.
They all center on C#, as do most classical Ragas.
oh and i agree about drummers. i hate it when a drummer refuses to use a metronome.
but they don't always work for every song, different parts may have different tempos. i just know that on albums i've recorded, sometimes you want to use one, sometimes not. the tempo may vary slightly throughout the song, but thst's necessary to the "feel" of some songs, and that's one thing we hear less of these days.
ETA: just noticed the typo in my title. "Metaphysica"?! oops.