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The ‘BASALT FLOOR’ Giza Plateau Smoking Gun Evidence of LOST ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY

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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 06:28 AM
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In this post I will present evidence of Lost Ancient High Technology on the Giza Plateau which shows beyond all REASONABLE doubt that machine tools were used in the construction of this Basalt Floor.

It is simply impossible to produce this kind of work with ‘Copper Chisels’ and ‘Stone Pounders’ as we have been led to believe. Bare in mind that Basalt has a hardness factor of between 6 and 7 on the MOHS scale of hardness whereby Copper is between 2.5 and 3.

So maybe it’s time to move the debate past the ‘is it/isn’t it - are they/aren’t they’ type of paradigm and into the highly speculative ‘who/when and with what’ paradigm. I think we have to speculate wildly about how this work was done because it does not fit into any of the common explanations we been told about.

The Basalt Floor -









Cut Marks -
























Striations -





















More Hi Res photos here –

kinozal-lai.ru...




posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 06:38 AM
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a reply to: JamesTB

So what kind of machines were used here?

And where are they?


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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 06:42 AM
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originally posted by: JamesTB
It is simply impossible to produce this kind of work with ‘Copper Chisels’ and ‘Stone Pounders’


No it is not - there, I have as much evidence to show it is possible as you have to show it is not possible!


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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 06:56 AM
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Those saw cuts look like an angle grinder was used and could have been cut any time since angle grinders were invented.

It looks as though much of the area has had much of the stone work carried away probably for local building projects and this has happened many times before in many areas.

On the other hand, it is very smooth cutting on the surface and does the beg the question.

But honestly, for every time that 'they' have said this or that could not have been done by ancient man, someone comes up and proves them wrong. From Easter Island to the guy in the US who moves around 25 ton slabs by himself.

They did have two handed saws in those days and just because we have lost the knowledge of how it was done, does not mean that they did not do it all.

Having said all of that, it is amazing how flat they managed to get those rocks.

Power tools? I don't believe so. You just have to look at the huge Cathedrals and Castles in Europe and elsewhere to know that man could build awesome things without power tools.

P


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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 07:05 AM
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Yea. I have seen these before. Along with gobekli tepe and other ancient architecture. There is no doubt that these are machine marks from long cutting edges such as what you would see from a band saw or a quarry saw which uses a very long diamond coated chain run by a motor.

I am an engineer/machinist, materials specialist. We do have machines today that will do this work and they leave the exact same tool marks as what we see at these sites. There is zero chance that these marks were made from copper anything. I guess it is possible that they could have fashioned a primitive version of one of these machines, but that doesn't answer what material they used as the rope/chain and then the cutting agent. It would have to as strong or stronger than basalt which is quartz and iron rich. These people are said to supposedly only have copper tools. Copper will not cut basalt.



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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 07:10 AM
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These cuts are too long and straight to be an angle grinder and they didn't have two handed steel saws.

When those castles and cathedrals were built, they had iron/steel.

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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 07:19 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver
Yea. I have seen these before. Along with gobekli tepe and other ancient architecture. There is no doubt that these are machine marks from long cutting edges such as what you would see from a band saw or a quarry saw which uses a very long diamond coated chain run by a motor.

I am an engineer/machinist, materials specialist. We do have machines today that will do this work and they leave the exact same tool marks as what we see at these sites. There is zero chance that these marks were made from copper anything. I guess it is possible that they could have fashioned a primitive version of one of these machines, but that doesn't answer what material they used as the rope/chain and then the cutting agent. It would have to as strong or stronger than basalt which is quartz and iron rich. These people are said to supposedly only have copper tools. Copper will not cut basalt.



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Yes, couldn’t agree more. Also take a look at these striations found on this artefact from Karnak Egypt. Very similar to what’s found above but on a much finer scale. This isn’t the work of copper tools.

Right click and 'View Image' for a much bigger image.









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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 07:43 AM
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Yea, those are very fine saw marks. Which means either very fine saw teeth, or a small abrasive wire. Neither of which are contemporary for the time.

I understand that they claim that these types of tools were not available because they haven't found any at the sight or even from that time. Which is odd of course, since the site is monolithic in size and one would expect to find many tools for the many workers that it would have taken to undertake such an epic chore. And yet all they can come up with is copper chipping balls and chisels. Which are crude and only good for chipping and shaping crude forms. The fine smooth surfaces of the statues could not have been chipped into those shapes, and the long smooth straight surfaces of the blocks can only be made from a long two man saw, or an abrasive rope/wire/band saw type cutting instrument. Which they supposedly didn't have.


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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 07:43 AM
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No copper alone will not cut basalt, but it is still possible.

Ancient Egyptian copper slabbing saws



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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 07:46 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus

Have you ever got any thing to add?

OP- I have marveled over this stuff for ever, and I am not the only one obviously. The converation has been around ATS and other sights a number of times.

One of the more intriguing ideas floated by regarding S. American Pyramids was the idea that a plant combination was utilized to "melt" the stone which was in turn poured into forms.

In your case Drills and Saws sure look probable to me, where did they go? Well metal deteriorates and disappears into the soil and wind over a long enough time. Perhaps, one day we will discover some as yet un-pillaged sight and we will be ascertain some new tidbit of information into their technique. It does boggle the mind, thanks for the photos, I do enjoy seeing these every so often to remind me of the amazing feats of our storied past.


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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 07:47 AM
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originally posted by: Mianeye
No copper alone will not cut basalt, but it is still possible.

Ancient Egyptian copper slabbing saws




Except that they have never found one and a copper saw would not last very long. Probably not long enough to cut through one block. It would deteriorate way faster than the basalt. Not buying it. And neither are the people who wrote the article you brought in. That saw, made in modern times only produced v shaped grooves and would not be a practical means of mass production of the millions of stone blocks that are there.
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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 07:52 AM
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a reply to: Woodcarver

You clearly didn't read the link i provided



posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: BlueJacket

Sorry? Who are you?



posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 08:04 AM
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I read the entire link.

a reply to: Mianeye



posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 08:06 AM
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Examples of things not done with copper chisels:





If copper chisels can't be used to make these things, then - ALIENS!!!

Note for future - the Egyptians had bronze before Giza.

Harte


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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: Woodcarver

You clearly didn't read the link i provided


v cuts that take 3 to 5 hours per centimeter??

300 to 500 hours to cut a meter sized block, one cut..

Losing 40 cm of copper, at the least, and up to 2.5 meters of copper if dry sand instead of wet.

You'd have to make at least one saw per cut, and probably more than that.

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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 08:15 AM
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Was an experiment.

Thousands of people to do it, plenty of time to master, the Egyptians were not idiots.
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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 08:18 AM
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originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: KnightLight
Was an experiment.

Thousands of people to do it, plenty of time to master, the Egyptians were not idiots.


The experiment is evidence of this not making sense rather than being evidence of a method used..
plenty of time to master, so show me the experiment that makes sense then?



posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 08:21 AM
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I always cringe when I read these sorts of things.

Why is it that people are so willing to think that humans aren't capable of amazing things. Especially considering these amazing things were done with hundreds of thousands of slaves, if not millions.

I think the whole Aliens helped us build all the big stuff is just an easy way to make us all think we are stupid and inept.

And I can't imagine why they'd have used such advanced tools for some projects and not for others.

~Tenth


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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 08:25 AM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
I always cringe when I read these sorts of things.

Why is it that people are so willing to think that humans aren't capable of amazing things.

~Tenth


Who said that??

I read the Op saying
1)"Who did this"
2)"when did they do it?"

He obviously implied it wasn't Egyptians and not at the time it's supposed to be.. But he didn't go on after that..
All options on the table.


And what makes you think they used slaves????

You are on old information.

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