Hackers Leak Messages 'Between Kremlin and France’s Front National'

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
Oh goodie, this crap again! :rolleyes:

I assume this is the latest propaganda being thrown out there to deflect attention from the National Socialist party claiming significant power within the Ukrainian cabinet?

ROFL.......There is no National Socialist party in Ukraine and never has been - go back to your boss and tell him you are too stupid to be a подхалим!

1. Svoboda? Are we trying to create our own reality again by claiming they don't exist, or by claiming the self-proclaimed All-Ukrainian Union Socialist Laborer party isn't national socialist, Aloysius?
2. My boss likely doesn't give two flips about any of this because it doesn't involve engineering design nor do I need to kiss his ass. Nice job though, are you preparing for a career as a комик?

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
Oh goodie, this crap again! :rolleyes:

I assume this is the latest propaganda being thrown out there...

Ha! I was waiting for this!
Once again, dear readers, everything remotely critical of Russia is "evil western propaganda", and it's only the USA that ever meddles in any country in which it has an interest. Putin is simply a misunderstood hero of the people, and the Kremlin is a shining beacon of democracy fighting a moral war against the "imperialist" evilness of the rest of the civilized world...

And everything out there critical of the USA is absolutely 100% true and accurate when RT reports on it, because Russia is a beacon of press freedom!

LOL

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

Even if what you posted in OP is true

So you have a problem with Russia borrowing long used US strategy of supporting fifth column of their target country

What's wrong, don't like the taste of your own medicine

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Oh goodie, this crap again! :rolleyes:

For a Moderator, you sure lack manners.

I assume this is the latest propaganda being thrown out there to deflect attention from the National Socialist party claiming significant power within the Ukrainian cabinet?

No, it is an attempt to alert people to the growing influence of Putin on the European Right. What you are trying to do, Moderator Man, is to deflect the thread onto a discussion of the situation in Ukraine with lies about its government. Your attempt will not work.

Not impressed.

You seem more impressed by Krelin lies than acknowledged facts.

Oh, and hackers are modern day Robin Hoods, robbing from the rich and giving to the poor? Yeah, let's explain that to the millions of people who lost their identities to those same hacker enclaves only to watch millions of dollars in debt taken out in their names to fund spendy Mountain Dew and Pizza Bite addictions from those same hackers. I'm sure those average shlubbs will appreciate knowing that the identity thieves are totally trustworthy where release of convenient agenda pushing state emails are concerned

Of course, if the Hackers release e-mails between the United States State Department and European officials, the Hackers are Heroes and their Truth, Honesty and Motivations are above suspicion.

By the way, this is essentially an extension of this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Coming soon: "Fascism: What It Is, What It Isn't And How You Can Spot It." Stay tuned.

a reply to: WineAndCheese9

Funny how the pro-Putin crowd always accuse Ukraine of being Nazis yet it's Russia that has 50 members of the Duma that are far right and are actively supporting national socialist groups across Europe.

a reply to: WineAndCheese9

I think it's more the hypocrisy since they claim to be against fascists yet sypport them throughout the world. You really can't have it both ways.

a reply to: sosobad

Tx3RBZ6eiWo

And I can't help but think of this article about Mr. Ulfkotte.

Fake Journalist Udo Ulfkotte Makes A Comeback as Putin Propagandist

www.dialoginternational.com...

Looks like you got yourself a good source there my friend.

Okay here is what I find the funniest part of this whole story...

The forum's speakers collectively ticked off all the boxes of intolerance and anti-Western sentiment, egged on by the enthusiasm of the audience filling a conference room at the St. Petersburg Holiday Inn.

So they had a conference in a Western style Hotel...oh the irony of that.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Originally the French wanted a different hotel but quickly surrendered...

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Originally the French wanted a different hotel but quickly surrendered...

You made me spill my coffee laughing so hard.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Thank you for bringing Herr Ulfkotte to my attention. I will be sure to incorporate him into my thread.

a reply to: DJW001

Thank you for bringing Herr Ulfkotte to my attention. I will be sure to incorporate him into my thread.

Actually it was sosobad, I just helped him with the truth.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: sosobad

Tx3RBZ6eiWo

And I can't help but think of this article about Mr. Ulfkotte.

Fake Journalist Udo Ulfkotte Makes A Comeback as Putin Propagandist

www.dialoginternational.com...

Looks like you got yourself a good source there my friend.

Udo Ulfkotte (born 20 January 1960) is a German journalist. He was formerly an editor for the German main daily newspaper, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ). Ulfkotte studied jurisprudence and politics at Freiburg and London. He was an advisor to the Kohl government[citation needed]. Between 1986-1998, Ulfkotte lived predominantly in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Oman, United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Jordan.[1][2]

Ulfkotte was on the staff of the Konrad Adenauer Foundation from 1999 to 2003. He won the civic prize of the Annette Barthelt Foundation in 2003

en.m.wikipedia.org...
You saying he is not a journalist?
Nice blog you linked to

Extreme nationalism could severely damage EU. In fact most of forces that counter EU are of right wing origin. That is why Russia is playing friendly with them and helping them to attain more power in EU countries. Where they can, they use russians, (like in Baltic states), in other places they use local ethnic nationalists.

a reply to: sosobad

Are you saying he is not a Fascist? His CV is classic Paleo-Nazi, by the way.

a reply to: sosobad

And nice job editing out the bit that says citation needed after the claim he was an editor.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: sosobad

Are you saying he is not a Fascist? His CV is classic Paleo-Nazi, by the way.

Wasn't asked about that, tsurfer said he wasn't a journalist.

a reply to: sosobad

You saying he is not a journalist?

You should take that up with the person who wrote it now shouldn't you?

And if he is working for the Russian government a wikipedia page really doesn't prove much as we have all seen how Russia has no problem dicking around with wiki pages.

Nice blog you linked to

The irony of that comment is just too much.

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

The Kremlin often cries foul over "the west" interfering with "domestic politics" in Russia, but it has been caught financing the National Front - something that has been vaguely known but is now out in hte open:

"Has been caught"?

"Now out in the open"?

It never was a secret.

Way to sensationalize your.......stuff.

From your own source:

In December she revealed that her party had received a €9m loan from Russian-owned First Czech-Russian Bank, leading to reports that Putin was purposefully bankrolling radical European parties in order to destabilise Europe. However, Le Pen argued that French banks had turned down the National Front for a loan and so they had accepted one from Russia instead.

So why are you spreading disinfo?

a reply to: sosobad

Wasn't asked about that, tsurfer said he wasn't a journalist.

WRONGl, the source I posted did get it right.

Nowhere in my post do you see me say this man was not a journalist.