The Soldiers Who Died Saving Bergdahl ,Hmmm

a reply to: 3n19m470

My point was (knowingly or unknowingly) did someone put you, or your family, or fellow American in harms way unnecessarily?

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: 3n19m470
Interesting. Do you have any ideas as to why the reason for their deaths would be fabricated? Maybe to deter any future deserters? Since they know that a similar story could be made up about them to portray them as less of a conscientious objector to war and more a person who cost his fellow soldiers their lives? Is that what you are thinking?

This whole thing is confusing to me but I definitely don't think he should have left. If he wanted to quit fighting he could have found another way I think besides running to the taliban. His actions led to some of the enemy being released, at the very least, so I can understand why people arent happy with him.

Wish i had the answer ,maybe he was a spook collecting intel.. who knows ...

its obvious their deaths were fabricated. mostly in the MSM

You should always be sure to say or add that you believe that their death in relation to hunting this solider is a fabrication. You sound as though you are trying to say something else.

originally posted by: rockintitz
a reply to: 3n19m470

My point was (knowingly or unknowingly) did someone put you, or your family, or fellow American in harms way unnecessarily?

There is another Berdahl blood lust thread, this is a fair go at the MSM and 'using' dead soldiers names to push another cause.

This if true and the OP has called it out is pure media abuse and is disgusting.

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: 3n19m470
Interesting. Do you have any ideas as to why the reason for their deaths would be fabricated? Maybe to deter any future deserters? Since they know that a similar story could be made up about them to portray them as less of a conscientious objector to war and more a person who cost his fellow soldiers their lives? Is that what you are thinking?

This whole thing is confusing to me but I definitely don't think he should have left. If he wanted to quit fighting he could have found another way I think besides running to the taliban. His actions led to some of the enemy being released, at the very least, so I can understand why people arent happy with him.

Wish i had the answer ,maybe he was a spook collecting intel.. who knows ...

its obvious their deaths were fabricated. mostly in the MSM

You should always be sure to say or add that you believe that their death in relation to hunting this solider is a fabrication. You sound as though you are trying to say something else.

i did add that in a few posts , thanks for the reminder

originally posted by: rockintitz
a reply to: Kapusta

So you're debating whether people could have died vs. did they actually die?

Is one better in this situation? The intent is the same.

this is an easy one ok, the MSM lied again. i know its hard to understand at first, but its gets easier.

Cool fact about the military: we can do several things at once.

Primary mission: move from point A to point B, capture or kill so and so.

Secondary mission: kill bad guys along the route

Tertiary mission: look for Berghdahl's post leavin' ass.

OP, I have flashed on that question but it also immediately left my brain. They could have been searching for him while also carrying out other duties. When I look for something I have lost/misplaced, I don't always do an intense search solely for retrieving the object, rather I keep it at the back of my mind to be alert for it. I don't know if we can actually say for instance that a search party was deployed and that was their sole dedication for the remaining duration of their efforts there.

The anger toward Sergeant Bergdahl increased exponentially after Sept. 4, when they learned that two members of Third Platoon, which routinely went on tandem missions with Second Platoon and who they believed were also searching for Sergeant Bergdahl, had been killed in an ambush. Pfc. Matthew Martinek and Lt. Darryn Andrews, both of them friends of Mr. Cornelison, died in the ambush. A Defense Department official said it was unclear whether the two men were killed directly because of the search for Sergeant Bergdahl.

www.nytimes.com...

BTW, Bergdahl sent clothes and personal items home before leaving his post so it appears yet another premeditated fact of his desertion.

From same link as above,

Mr. Full, then a specialist in the platoon, said he and other platoon members grew increasingly bitter at the time they were spending looking for Sergeant Bergdahl. “He had sent all his belongings home — his computer, personal items,” said Mr. Full, now 25.

Good on you for digging up at least some of the truth over this circus. And I do believe you are asking the right questions and exposing again how the MSM is used to promote some scenario beneficial to certain parties for whatever reason.

As for myself I have no idea why the government would want to twist this around but the key would be to finding the source of the fabrications. A poster above made a logical assumption in that it's a deterrent to other would be "conscientious objectors". Then again there are no shortage of members here who have as usual twisted this into an excuse to embarrass the Administration so that could possibly be a reason.

Anyway S&F for the research and asking the tough questions.

a reply to: StoutBroux

sorry not buying it , It seems most of these men died as a result of a Primary Objective not directly related to Bergdahl.


If the primary objective was to "look for Bergdahl" then I would be less Subjective .

OP, I have flashed on that question but it also immediately left my brain. They could have been searching for him while also carrying out other duties

For example lets take Clayton P Bowen , He was providing security for the presidential elections in Afghanistan. "primary objective" How can one be doing this yet be on a mission to find Bergdahl? . One can say , "well maybe they were given orders to be on the look out for bergdahl",however the MSM is making it sound like these people died as a result of bergdual's abandoning of post when in fact they died as a result of their primary objective .

Unless I can find fact that these men died as a result of bergdahal leaving his post i will remain subjective and listen to my gut feeling on this one .

originally posted by: rockintitz
a reply to: 3n19m470

My point was (knowingly or unknowingly) did someone put you, or your family, or fellow American in harms way unnecessarily?

Ok I see what you are saying. But I stikk don't agree that it "doesn't matter" if we were lied to. As far as the fate of the deserter it doesn't matter. But it matters if the msm lied to us. But another poster with military exp posted something I was already pondering. They died while doing those things but one of their misssions could also have been to look for the deserter. But the question remains, did they die because of him or while operating tbeir main mission? It could be that looking for the deserter was somewhere on tbere list of things to do. It could also be that they didn't really care much about finding him and would have died even if he hadn't deserted. I don't know because I don't have the facts. But yes by all means throw his ass in the brig. Or whatever they call it.

a reply to: Kapusta

Stratfor had audio/written transcript of team looking for bergdahl. I saw it awhile ago floating around it's possible it eventually landed on wikileaks. I'm curious as to why you believe the military would lie about this. Clearly they made many mistakes, this guy never should've gotten past MEPS ,through training, and reaching deployment.But I honestly can't imagine the benefit of lying about how these people died. I'm not in the military btw so I have no investment either way.