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This is another case of spreading ignorance IMHO. You take a extremely complex text and cherry pick a sentence out of context to prove some nebulous point of what? Vaccines are bad? Did you take the further step of reading just what "vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis" is? If so how does it fit into your point? Pasting in a few paragraphs about something so complicated is not helpful. If someone wants to learn about a subject you should give them links to the data. Then they can go from there. By simply putting in snippets out of context, without any preface, enlightens no one. All you did was give the ignorant another snippet they can point to and say "SEE! measles vaccines give you VAPP"
...I have found, being in a room full of people asking questions, the Dr's would turn to me after a few inquiries, then direct all further correspondence to me. I think this is simply because i knew the subject and was able to ask relevant questions. Also, i am not as emotional as the women in the room. Too often feelings creep into the conversation, many doctors are logical, fact-based people. I jive with those people.
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More like you simply "jive with" the paradigm - and don't question it - you're playing the same game and not rocking the boat.
originally posted by: sirpatrix
a reply to: Entreri06
I understand your point, my view is that there is an inherent susceptibility within people's genes (excuse the lack of biological knowledge) that is quite blatantly disregarded by current methods, I am not anti vaccination as a whole and appreciate the benefits that it has had to many. However being on the margin of this issue has been the toughest times of my life....to think that there is even a chance that the struggles could have been avoided if the pharmaceutical giants and governments showed more regard for people than for green paper...kills me inside that I allowed it to happen. If people were warned of the risks in the first place then at least they could make an informed decison, is that to much to ask?
Thanks for your reply and concern.
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: ManFromEurope
There are literally thousands of studies showing the success of vaccination. If you don't want to read them, ask a doctor. If you want to believe further, ask an anonymous source on the internet - which will provide many un-claimable "facts". Which are no facts, indeed.
And since these kinds of studies have been proven over, and over, and over again to be filled with lies, falsified and omitted/modified data, you trust them because...?
Again - even *if* it is true that vaccines *could* be created that were safe and effective, I wouldn't trust *anything* coming from this totally broken and psychopathic system that is in place right now.
“Her d Immunity.” The flawed science and failures of mass vaccination
In India, doctors are concerned about profit margins being protected before human lives, with recommendations to vaccinate every child with more expensive, newer vaccines. Dr Jacob Puliyel describes the problems he sees..
“An analysis in the Lancet showed how the Pneumococcal vaccine reduces only 4 cases of pneumonia per 1000 children. The cost for vaccinating 1000 children comes to $ 12,750. Treating the 4 cases of pneumonia in India using WHO protocol, would cost $ 1. The pneumococcus strains prevalent in India are nearly all sensitive to inexpensive antibiotics like penicillin. In the US which has been using the pneumococcal vaccine for some years now, there has been a strain shift – strains covered in the vaccine are being replaced by other strains. Ominously the new strains are more antibiotic resistant. Vaccine has simply made the problem of pneumococcal disease worse. Yet this vaccine is being pushed in Africa and Asia.…It is not about lives lost in poor countries – it is all about the cash register. These organizations and their sponsors have profit margins to protect. Ethics is not a major issue with them.”
The profits to vaccine manufacturers and the government must be enormous.
The CDC is in the vaccine business. Members of the CDC’s Vaccine Advisory Committee accept payment from vaccine manufacturers. Sanofi-Pasteur, Merck and others specifically seek to employ CDC staff once their contracts have run out. Relationships have included sharing a vaccine patent, owning stock in a vaccine company, payments for research, payment to monitor manufacturer vaccine tests, and funding academic departments. Thanks to a 1980 law, the CDC currently holds dozens of licensing agreements. It also has numerous ongoing projects to collaborate on new vaccines.