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No, You are NOT a Warrior/Operator/Revolutionary!

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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:25 AM
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Being in the firearms community has its drawbacks. Especially if you're a combat vet.

All day long I see posts and comments from guys who buy a plate carrier, a rifle with some rails, and a Glock 19, engage in conversations about combat tactics, what "they would do" in a SHTF situation, and how badass they are because they have the latest gear. This rant addresses those people. If you are one of those people, listen closely.

1. You are NOT a sniper, or expert marksman if all you ever do is shoot at stationary targets at an indoor range at 25 yards. You are not a good shot if your groups from your Glock 19 are 8 inches at 7 yards and you have the cojones to call that "combat accuracy" as if you know anything about combat.

2. Buying a plate carrier, a bunch of cool looking multicam uniforms, hard knuckle gloves, and a backpack you fill up with crap you'll never use does NOT make you a soldier. Your fat ass can't even run 50 ft or drag a requisite 170lbs man with gear on for 25 yards.

3. You can't spend your way into being a soldier/SF operator. That takes commitment, physical endurance and training your fat ass doesn't want to do. You just wanna look the part and hope no one notices your gut hanging over your multicam pistol belt.

4. You don't get to talk about combat if you can't even commit to changing the above points 1-3. Playing Call of Duty does not make you experienced in ground combat. The second someone starts shooting at you, the minute a bullet actually hits something near you, you will realize how woefully inadequate you are for the task of (A) repelling an attack on your position, (B) suppressing an enemy, (C) keeping your # together long enough to PROPERLY break contact without getting killed.

5. You are not a 3 percenter, revolutionary, or freedom fighter. You're a fat ass Joe Nobody plopped down in front of your computer on forums and facebook talking trash about things you can't control and don't have the discipline to do anything about while you pose for photo-ops with all of your expensive gear and firearms.

6. People you care about die in combat. You are neither prepared for, nor do you understand the process of watching your friends die while STILL having to do your job. God knows as a soldier I wasn't prepared for it, I have no doubt someone with no training and ideas of grandeur would fall apart the second an enemy bullet pierces the skull of your closest buddy. Stop pretending you could handle it. Stop pretending that it's something you could do.

7. PT. Don't even talk about PT right?

This is what I see when you people flap your gums




You're fat...Even if you're not, you eat like crap. You lead a sedentary lifestyle. You don't research ways of exercising to better yourself and maybe cutting it close enough to keep up with a basic level soldier out of a supply MOS, let alone the Infantry or operator level guys you want to emulate. You put no effort in. You can't even walk long distances without passing out from exhaustion. Your bones are weak, your muscles are weaker still...You bought all this god damned gear you can't even haul around at the range without getting winded and worn out and you want people to believe you could hack it in combat?

Time to wake up GI Joe.

--End Rant--
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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

So anyone who isn't ex military is a worthless piece of #? Nice...





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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: doompornjunkie

I think you missed the point.

You don't have to be in the military or ex military. But you do have to take what you want to be seriously enough to be able to do it. The vast majority of these types do not have the motivation to do anything but spend money on gear they don't know how to use.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

A rant worthy of note.

They'll read it and then go get another tattoo or box of 20.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:32 AM
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This is the sort of rant I live for. I wish I was round yours when you were typing it. The last paragraph seals the deal. Want to go for a pint?



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

As a person who has no combat experience in war, but has put in effort to become the best I can be outside of being in the military, I'd say your not 100% right.

I get what your saying but when shtf, you better not underestimate me because when I get shot at, and have been, I can keep my cool and will eliminate my target (person) wether it's stationary or not.

Also before anyone claims to know me, don't tell me I can't do it because I couldn't possibly pull the trigger or some other b.s..you know nothing about me.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

I agree on that point.. especially the ones that shot a gun once and now know everything there is to know. Your last paragraph took me off guard though. It assumes way too much about people you don't know.

At first your post came off as you described, but by the end it honestly seemed like an insult to anyone who isn't ex military but just likes shooting or talking about guns.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: threeeyesopen




but has put in effort to become the best I can be outside of being in the military,


You're not the person I'm addressing then, are you?



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Well I guess TPTB win... All us civvies are just fat ass gear sacks with no actual ability to speak of.

Damn. There for a while I was thinking we might have actually had a chance.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:38 AM
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Priceless i wish i could applause you for that statement i have weapons and a concealed and my biggest fear is actually having to use it thats why i have the utmost respect for any combat vet.
my Favorite line was just because you play CALL OF DUTY does not make you combat ready!!! S&F a reply to: projectvxn



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: doompornjunkie

PT is the second most important thing in combat.

Your BODY MUST BE ABLE TO take more than that of your enemy.

You MUST BE ABLE TO get your wounded buddy with all of his gear, out of harms way.

You MUST BE ABLE TO get your tired, hungry, and weighed down self out of harms way before the enemy closes in on your position.

Not all fights are winnable right? If you know you can't win then you must be able to run.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:40 AM
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I see a trend of everyone being a "special operator" as of late and it pisses me off. I was a USMC infantry man for 4 years and a protective services agent for MNF-I for a while, I worked with real special operators and they were really incredible people and I hate it when some ass hat in a bar shows up in his NG uniform with his ranger patch whilst 40 pounds over weight talking about standing gate guard in some major base, it takes away from the legacy and honor of the real men and woman behind the trade. I detest them the first time I had rounds down range at me I remember feeling helpless I had nightmares for awhile of the concrete being chipped of the pillar I was taking cover on that was bouncing off my kevlar I had grown into after awhile but never got used to it, these assholes have no respect for the situation and act as though a human predator is somehow less proficient then them. I can tell you fighting men are nothing to treat like you are better, I hope these people do not ever have to endure the rigors of everyday combat or feel the experience of getting your gear caught up in concrete and rebar in a bombed out building while trying to fire and move, the feeling knowing you are slowing down your team and the fear for your life at this vulnerability over a ****ing magazine pouch. I am fuming right there with you bro!!!



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Your last paragraph was addressed to everyone by making the assumption that we are weak, hence why I input my opinion and mentioned I agree with you to an extent.
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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat
a reply to: projectvxn

Well I guess TPTB win... All us civvies are just fat ass gear sacks with no actual ability to speak of.

Damn. There for a while I was thinking we might have actually had a chance.


There are plenty of places non-military civilians can get REAL training in small group tactics, marksmanship, and even physical readiness without having to join the army.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:41 AM
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Very well said! I take it you've seen some of the doomsday prepper shows.hillbillies with AR-15's,ready to overthrow the gov't.I used to sell muzzle brakes and such to survivalists,these clowns love to spend big money on anything camo or flat black with a catchy name.


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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:42 AM
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I think they may be looking for fresh fodder in a month or two over in Ukraine....just saying ..


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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 11:48 AM
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All I see is a fomentation of an "us versus them" mentality. Its counter productive. Instead of hating or insulting these folks, perhaps it would be prudent to offer actual advice or practical experience? It does no good whatsoever to further the already vast gulf between civilians and military/ law enforcement. This is simply my opinion, however.




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