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No, You are NOT a Warrior/Operator/Revolutionary!

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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: projectvxn

I gotcha sorry if I misunderstood. Your more or less are addressing this to city boy survivalist and Peckerwood posers survivalist that moved to the country.


And the tacticool gear heads, and military posers, and general fakers.

Some of these people actually get it in their heads that they can teach stuff to people they've never actually done or trained in.

People like the 2 idiots on Youtube who run the channel Range Time, or the many, many, many "tactical instructors" that have been called out for lying about their training and experience.

There are tons of people out there who are faking it. These people aren't just a danger to themselves, they very well could be a danger to others.




posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:16 PM
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Totally agree and identify with this rant in principle.

However, since resigning my commission and exiting 10 years of infantry and recce service; and subsequently starting a gear making business. I try [hard] not to marginalize those who may just simply want great kit.

Paying the bills trumps any disdain I may feel [inwardly] towards a particular customer and my perception of their motives and 'expertise'.


edit on 21-3-2015 by J.B. Aloha because: spelling



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: carlosdanger




I didn't see you at sand hill when I was at Benning.


Probably because we weren't at Benning at the same time.

B 2-46 INF. Sand Hill.


Lol he is honestly going to say in the time he there he didn't see you do you're full of bs?

Nobody I knew when I served would say that.

Benning is huge, even if you guys ate at that same chow hall you probably wouldn't know each other.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn


Thank you for your service. I'm only 29 and fought off the urge to enlist more times then I can remember. This most recent time was kaibashed when my fiancé got In car accident and toasted her back, we have 2 kids to raise.. So no pewpew in the desert for me.

Ive since learned tho that like you say there's many many many many many MANY places to go learn "tactics" and skills. Gotta be careful tho, cause much like the gun world there's a million idiots with bad ideas and will take your money to train you. ive only just begun to dip my toe into the world of strategic warfare but lemme tell you what... There sooooooooooooooooooo much to learn. It's insane.

Basically it goes like this... Choice one : You can join the military and you will have to work super hard 80% of the time but in the end after minimal thought and planning on your part, you will emerge out the end a warrior. If you pass of course. But the military is setting you up for success. They step by step work you into a killing machine full of all kinds of crazy intelligent tactics that you would of never thought of unless someone told you.

Choice two : you can NOT join the military and you will have to work super hard 80% of the time either doing PT or earning money to pay for training and toys. One full time job isn't gonna quite cut it unless it's a good one. But remember... These skills are perishable, so you have to plan you weekly training and reading materials accordingly to keep you sharp while you keep in shape and earn money. Now use all this money earned to take training courses and take trips to inhospitable regions to practice these skills. The worse the day the better to train. Not always gonna be sunny and 80 degrees when you gotta pack 10 miles. And don't forget... Your just winging this so be careful and take advice from veterans and extreme hunters on what skills are useful in the bush. Be humble. Remember you don't know #. This is a learning process. And here's the kicker... In the military Atlesst you have some idea when someone is somewhat "ready".... IN civilian training... There's no way to tell if your ever ready... And when the time truly comes to see if you are.... There's no going back for more training if your not...

Just like its not guaranteed that because one was a pipe hitter of some sorts that they will be this unstoppable warrior, it's not guaranteed that if your a civilian your a total turd keyboard warrior either .. But it's pretty heavily biased either way. Basically if a person is going to be a successful hard working intelligent warrior... It doesn't matter if they are in the military or not, they know they have to work hard and have the drive to get there. The military is just one road of many. Probably the most comprehensive road that's for sure, but there other routes to take. So don't fret non militRy warriors. There's still hope!



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: johnwick

Especially considering that a self respecting DS wouldn't let you have enough time to eat let alone socialize.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn



Playing Call of Duty does not make you experienced in ground combat.


Try telling that to a room full of 13 year olds.

As a gamer myself I can tell you that Call of Duty is a terrible representation of Modern Warfare (gamers will get that play on words) Even the more accurate military simulators such as operation flashpoint or full spectrum warrior cannot replicate what happens on the battlefield. I'd like to think that i'm a fit guy but the recruitment officers would laugh at me if I applied And all these gamers cum "military experts' would drop their guns the moment the butts recoiled. Combat seems so simple with a controller in hand but the reality would be much harder.

My grandfather served in Korea but that does not make me a warrior yet some will say "My Grandfather could have been in Korea but if you press select and see my killstreak you'd see that I'm the right man for the job"

Many modern shooters are thinly veiled recruitment drives, but that's a rant for another time.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: projectvxn

We trained there with you guys for not only joint ops but also because at the time Lejuene didn't have a "HEET" trainer yet, it was pretty awesome for me, my dad is a former Green Beret and it was nostalgic to be at a place I knew he was when he was my age to do the same thing, train for war. I was at his old command in Brag just passing through and got a pic for him damn near made the old timer cry. And BTW thanks for serving!


You know he doesn't want you to thank him for serving.

None of us do.

But it is still nice to hear, starred



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: johnwick

Another reason is small towns tend to stick together. You would know the people you are fighting with and their limitations or abilities.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Holy crap... awesome rant.

It takes a certain resolve to be in combat. I've been shot at before and my instincts overrode everything I "knew" I would do in that situation. I grabbed the kids around me and huddled behind a bench. In my fantasies regarding those situations, I grabbed the nearest metal trash can and rushed the baddies while deflecting their bullets with my awesome skillz. In reality? I just did what I could and ducked for safety.

When I hear "I would have blah blah blah" or "Those thugs were lucky I wasn't around with my 408 mm hand cannon +2 Charisma", it really makes me wonder if they actually believe what they are saying. I've personally seen some of these people and their effort put into being a "warrior" doesn't extend beyond their financial investment and it's obvious as you've pointed out.

When somebody like me points that out, it means nothing so it's nice to hear and actual warrior class person lay it out.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: johnwick

Especially considering that a self respecting DS wouldn't let you have enough time to eat let alone socialize.


Exactly!!!

Alphabetical order.

My last name starts W.

I Would still be in line and hear "3 MINUTES"!!!

"BETTER FOLD IT UP LIKE A TACO CHEW IT TWICE AND SWALLOW IT"!!!

I was always starving an hour before chow time.

I would honestly eat my entire plate in just a couple mins when I got home.

The wife and friends/family would look at me like "WTF?".



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: Cuervo

I'm just a regular dude with a job. I just happen to have a machine gun and a blackhawk as part of my duties.

My army career is coming to an end and thankfully so since my back can't take it anymore and I couldn't do another deployment even if I wanted to.

The military takes a lot out of you. It taxes your body in ways that most other career paths don't. It ages you prematurely.

Knowing all of that, when I see people doing the things I've described my first worry is about the people around them that believe in them and their ability to protect them if something were to happen. Sometimes that BS can get people hurt.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: johnwick

Been out of basic a few years now and I still eat like a DS is about to smoke the hell out of me.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:40 PM
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Posers are always annoying no matter what the costume.


One of the lowest being those stolen valor jack asses, those guys deserve to get ktfo.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
a reply to: projectvxn



Playing Call of Duty does not make you experienced in ground combat.



Many modern shooters are thinly veiled recruitment drives, but that's a rant for another time.


That's not a new tactic by any means.... And I use the word tactic loosely. What soldiers and Marines and SOF guys do is AWESOME. The full meaning of the word. What they do inspires awe. And real men want to inspire awe in others one way or another. So when they see someone inspire awe they want to emulate them by joining the military sometimes.

Watch the documentary "navy seals: their untold story" and listen to how many of them say they ran right down to there recruiters office after seeing the movie "frogmen" circa 1955ish. I'd bet most of the Vietnam era snake eaters were thinking to themselves "man f#ckthat movie, this swamp sucks!"

So yes recruitments rise as a symptom of a good war movie but was it intentional? You'd never know because a good war movie is profitable and going to be made anyway sooooooooo catch 22 there sorta.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Cuervo

I'm just a regular dude with a job. I just happen to have a machine gun and a blackhawk as part of my duties.

My army career is coming to an end and thankfully so since my back can't take it anymore and I couldn't do another deployment even if I wanted to.

The military takes a lot out of you. It taxes your body in ways that most other career paths don't. It ages you prematurely.

Knowing all of that, when I see people doing the things I've described my first worry is about the people around them that believe in them and their ability to protect them if something were to happen. Sometimes that BS can get people hurt.



I joined at 21 left at 27.

Got out early because the tole it was taking, not just on me or my body, but family and friends as well.

No soldier suffers alone.

The wife and kids, family and friends suffer as well.

I did it FOR them, but I also did IT to them.

I lost some, for good it seems.

Even my wife, and my kids love me but kinda respect and resent me, for choosing something else instead of them.

It is hard to come home sometimes.

Sometimes you never do...



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: mindseye1609

I remember when the ISMT (ismit) was the coolest video game err training tool I ever played. I am surprised that there is so little information and all that online about it like its TSSCI or something.



Its basically a first person shooter with very realistic weapons you physically possess, they even have recoil and rounds that eject
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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:50 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: johnwick

Been out of basic a few years now and I still eat like a DS is about to smoke the hell out of me.


I still hear them yelling at me.

"Private, WTF were you thinking?"

Lol...good times



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: Brotherman

They brought the truck to a mall by me not too long after 9/11. I can't imaging how many people sign up because of it but If I would a been older it woulda prolly got me. Don't they have a new version of it out now too? Ultimate warrior or complete warrior or something like that?



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: mindseye1609

yeah they do its wild as hell, I am not sure if I can talk about it though cause you cant research it online, the only video on the internet of the old version of it is the one I linked. ISMT seems to not exist or something even though it does and it is not considered secret as far as I know but due to the lack of info about it and videos I wont talk much about what I know. I will tell you though that it is alot more fun then call of duty.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 12:59 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Cuervo

Knowing all of that, when I see people doing the things I've described my first worry is about the people around them that believe in them and their ability to protect them if something were to happen. Sometimes that BS can get people hurt.



I'll be the first to admit that having a bunch of me running around with guns will not help any situation short of a zombie apocalypse (and maybe not even then).

That's one of the things I'll admit to appreciating about living in a town full of veterans. If crap went down, there's at least a bit of hope that the people I see running around with rifles might actually know what their doing.

People just need to be realistic with their own skill sets and physical fitness.
edit on 21-3-2015 by Cuervo because: added stuffs.




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