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How Thatcher’s Government Covered Up a VIP Pedophile Ring

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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 07:43 AM
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a reply to: eletheia


I dare say if you dig deep enough you might come across a photograph of
myself with Jimmy Saville taken around 1970 at the Jersey Festival of Flowers


Mate i see what you are trying to say but its completely different.... The royals have an entourage of people looking after their interests, vetting people, checking security, etc... You didnt (i assume, lol).

They would have known, you wouldnt have!


Unauthorised meaning....


Unauthorised means it was not authourised by the royals, its does not mean its not true... does it?

The article is irrelevant really, its one source from thousands, i dont know why you are attempting to argue this, even the mainstream media accept that charlie and saville had a close relationship... Just to be clear, by close i mean closer than most people who he just meets as part of his royal activities/duties, like the example you gave re you meeting saville.

If it helps, here is another article (there are lots) that discusses charlies and savilles relationship.. this one seems to have comments made by palace staff.


Dickie Arbiter, who handled media relations for the Prince and Princess of Wales while spokesman for the Queen between 1988 and 2000, said the suspected paedophile TV presenter used to rub his lips up the arms of Prince Charles's young female assistants as a greeting.



Princess Diana was recorded telling James Gilbey on the so-called "squidgygate tape": "Jimmy Savile rang me up yesterday, and he said: 'I'm just ringing up, my girl, to tell you that His Nibs [Prince Charles] has asked me to come and help out the redhead [the Duchess of York], and I'm just letting you know, so that you don't find out through her or him; and I hope it's all right by you.'"


Source:
goo.gl/QVVf33
(sorry for short link.. long one wont work.. it points to the guardian)


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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: HumanPLC

I cant say that I liked Jimmy Saville I always hated the patronising way
he treated elderly ladies.

Starting out as a club manager and DJ before going on to the BBC.
He developed this 'larger than life' knowing 'every one' worth knowing
'friend of the stars' excentric type persona with silly noises and a stupid
catchphrase >>>>"Now then- now then- now then.

The first lesson in publicity is to keep your name out there - mingled
with as many high profile people as possible.

He possible did ring up the Royals and other well known people ... He
headed a Charity which would have opened doors for him?? I don't
for one minute believe they seeked him out, on a *personal* basis.

He developed that persona and hid behind his charities to get away
with the evil that he did, so when there were complaints against him ....
People would immediately not believe the *victims* "How could a man
who knew all those top people and worked so hard and tirelessly for
charity possibly do such evil things - the victim was a liar?

*HE HAD LAID THE SCENE TO COMMIT EVIL IN PLAIN SIGHT*


And yes there were "rumours" from people in show biz ... Rumours
but no proof.

Kissing women up the arms wasn't just kept for Royal female staff it
was a favourite ploy of his, (I have witnessed it) part of the public
persona he had cultivated and probably done on near enough a daily
basis although probably distasteful to the recipient, they were adults
not children.

How ever well he knew the rich and famous .... I don't think it was as
as cosy and chummy as he lead the public to believe, I think he was
tolerated under sufferance and he exaggerated his connections with
them to suit his own 'publicity machine'



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 03:35 PM
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So, every time Sir Vile was seen with a royal or prominent politician, he was just ligging and wasn't officially on the guest list?



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 04:15 PM
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a reply to: eletheia

I agree with your assessment. The notion that Prince Charles would be complicit in pedophilia or knowingly risk the monarchy by consorting with a pedophile is absurd and the belief that he would seems to fill a dark need to see evil in the royals by some people. There's nothing those people wouldn't believe about people they envy. The fact that they see conspiracies of evil everywhere speaks to their psychological pathology. That's not to say that evil doesn't occur, but they see it everywhere.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 04:20 PM
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So, Tangerine, how do you explain the palace's security dept not giving him a "steer well clear" warning? Are you suggesting they knew the rumours and didn't merit them, or were completely unaware?



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: IvanAstikov
So, Tangerine, how do you explain the palace's security dept not giving him a "steer well clear" warning? Are you suggesting they knew the rumours and didn't merit them, or were completely unaware?


They likely do not operate based on rumors. Had they advised Prince Charles to steer well clear of Savile, he certainly would have done so--as you and I would have. The notion that he would knowingly risk the monarchy and his personal reputation to entertain a pedophile is absurd. He's under intense scrutiny to the point that he can't scratch when it itches. Savile was a very popular entertainer who socialized with many powerful and famous people. Prince Charles is in such a rarified social position that even his friends address him as sir and bow and curtsey when he enters the room. Their relationships with him are constricted by protocol and he, not they, controls the topic of conversations. It's not like there's an open exchange of ideas over a pint like we share with our friends. Likely, no one would have dared to even raise the subject with him. In one sense the royals are very worldly in that they travel and meet many people. In another very important sense, they are sheltered and unworldly. Everyone outside the immediate family presents a false face to them. Do you really believe that Prince Charles would have ignored security warnings?
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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:07 PM
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It would appear that Thatcher knew enough to have given them a tip-off, had she been so inclined. Do you think her and the Queen's frosty relationship had anything to do with it?



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: IvanAstikov
It would appear that Thatcher knew enough to have given them a tip-off, had she been so inclined. Do you think her and the Queen's frosty relationship had anything to do with it?


I'm not sure what you mean. Gave whom a tip-off? The Queen? It's highly likely that such things are never discussed with the Queen. But you're right that they had a frosty relationship.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:21 PM
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You'd think whatever the government of the day, they'd want to keep their biggest tourist attraction free from scandals that might rock their commercialism.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:32 PM
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originally posted by: IvanAstikov
You'd think whatever the government of the day, they'd want to keep their biggest tourist attraction free from scandals that might rock their commercialism.


You are not taking into account protocol. No one speaks to the Queen until she speaks to them and then they only discuss the topic she has brought up. The royals have a tradition of stoicism and not talking about unpleasant things. They're all dog lovers, especially the Queen. The Queen's corgis and Princess Anne's dogs got into a fight and one died as a result. Neither the Queen nor Princess Anne ever mentioned it to each other or anyone else. It was an unpleasant topic so it was not discussed. This all seems very strange to normal people, but that's the way it is. Had the Queen brought up Savile, which she wouldn't, it's remotely possible that Thatcher might have told her the rumors. Obviously, and unfortunately, it never happened.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:37 PM
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Envy? hahaha what is there to be envious of? Go and have read about about their relatives, people like mount batten and his antics in India. Envy? No way would I want to be like them. They are only in their positions because they had the biggest gangs and could steal what ever they wanted as they trod down on the ordinary people. Read your history and learn that they would gladly murder their parents just to be top dog. What has any of them ever invented ? What has any one of them ever done for the people of this country. Nothing but cause wars and sent other people off to die in their millions as they raped murdered and stole anything they could get their grubby hands on. Proclaiming that its their devine right to rule over us because some spirit in the sky told them. If they had any decency in their hearts they could end the poverty and hunger of this world with their private wealth. Now I would respect them if they did some thing like that. But its not going to happen they will just stay the way they have been for hundreds of years. [snipped]
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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: Tangerine


Had the Queen brought up Savile, which she wouldn't, it's remotely possible that Thatcher might have told her the rumors. Obviously, and unfortunately, it never happened.



The rumours about Jimmy Saville were rife in show biz circles,

Not so in 'Royal circles' or' Parliamentary Circles' the latter had

enough going on among their own!!

Jimmy Saville wore his charitable work as a cloak which was the

*key* to his entry into areas other than show biz.

The Queen and Mrs Thatcher were of the same generation of my

Mother, and I believe like her they could not conceive of such evil



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 07:19 PM
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originally posted by: IvanAstikov
So, every time Sir Vile was seen with a royal or prominent politician, he was just ligging and wasn't officially on the guest list?



In a word YES

He headed his *charities* and as such would have many invitations.

Press photographers don't take one or two photographs at any events

they take a lot... only one or two appear in the press, the rest get

archived. When they next need a photo to accompany a story they

just dig a suitable one out of the archives.

It gives off the impression that he is always 'out there' mixing with

the hoi poli !!!! LOL!!!



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