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well don't say stupid s@@@@@@
originally posted by: Aqualung2012
a reply to: alienjuggalo
And Mr. Juggalo, you should think twice before coming onto people's threads saying their posts are stupid and calling them idiots. Kinda has the reverse effect when you have nothing useful to say, just some hateful retorts. Typical...
so u think callin g all American hero's thieves is useful and not hateful. Typical. Lol
originally posted by: Aqualung2012
a reply to: alienjuggalo
And Mr. Juggalo, you should think twice before coming onto people's threads saying their posts are stupid and calling them idiots. Kinda has the reverse effect when you have nothing useful to say, just some hateful retorts. Typical...
For whatever reason, Armstrong seemingly kept the bag a secret for more than four decades. Even when questioned about mementos by his authorized biographer, Armstrong made no mention of the historic artifacts that were tucked away in his closet.
Armstrong mentioned the purse to command module pilot Michael Collins as it was being transferred from one craft to the other.
"That [is] just a bunch of trash that we want to take back — LM parts, odds and ends," Armstrong said.
Later, Collins called Mission Control to note where the bag was being placed for the trip home and about how much it weighed.
It is not known how the purse came to be in Armstrong's possession after the mission, but it wasn't unusual for the astronauts to retain small spent parts of their capsules as souvenirs. In September 2012, one month after Armstrong died, President Barack Obama signed into law a bill that confirmed the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo astronauts had legal title their mementos.
originally posted by: Aqualung2012.......
Here is a list of the items in the "McDivitt Purse:"
Power Cable for Data Acquisition Camera
Utility lights
Utility clamps
Crewman Optical Alignment Sight (COAS)
Filter (Snap-on for COAS)
Light Bulb Assembly (Spare for COAS)
Waist Tether (Extra-Vehicular Activity tether)
Helmet Tie Down Strap (x2)
Data Acquisition Camera (DAC -16mm movie)
Right-Angle Bracket Adapter (for DAC)
10-mm lens (for DAC)
Lens Shade (Teflon; for 10mm lens on DAC)
Eyeguard Assembly (for AOT)
Mirror (it's actually polished metal)
Tool B - Emergency Wrench
Waste Management Cover
Netting
That's enough to put the guys from Pawn Stars into cardiac arrest for sure!
lol and most of the idiots s aying it probably think the moon landing never happened.
originally posted by: sputniksteve
Ya'll calling him a thief and what not is making me sad. Dude was a world hero, not just national. You jerks are trying to tell me you wouldn't want some keep sakes from the friggen moon landing flight? Give me a break you pretentious disrespectful liars. You would have taken that stuff faster then you can say eagle has landed.
originally posted by: Denoli
originally posted by: Saint Exupery
I'd call it salvage, rather than theft. If he hadn't taken them, they would have been left in the LM when it was abandoned in orbit (it is believed to have crashed into the Moon after its orbit decayed, but no one knows where or when).
Ooh so when you salvage you hide it in your closet ?
Strange way IMHO
originally posted by: Aqualung2012
He took items that did not belong to him and hid them. Yes, he hid them, even from his own wife. That is stealing. Period. You can church it up however you like, but it's very simple. Yeah, it might not be so sensitive to label the man a "thief," but those items were stolen, there's no arguing that.
It's not a huge deal, that the man smuggled away a few "souvenirs," (although these are NASA's property, not just a couple trinkets.) That wasn't the main point to the thread. It's cool that these items have been discovered, here they are, and Mr. Armstrong is every bit the hero he ever was... however maybe a bit more sneaky than we had assumed.