a reply to: Nyiah
You are the first and only one to hit the nail on the head about what the issue really is! - Property Rights of a Private Business Owner.
I wasn't even going to respond to this thread because it reads just like every news release published by anti-smokers after EVERY ban in EVERY
1. Bar business will increase, not decrease. According to one post on this thread, a so-called business owner reports that business decreases for
about 4 weeks and then comes back BETTER then ever. This is not been the experience in Ontario and in England, which has published reports of the
"loss of the English Pub".
The fact is that doesn't matter whether business increases or decreases. A bar is owned by a private person. Smoking a legal activity and every
private business owner has the right to decide what kind of customer he wishes to attract. Some love to cater to families. Some like to cater to
drinkers. It is their right to decide. There is nothing in the law that prevents a bar or restaurant owner from banning smoking in their
establishment. With 10 years experience with smoking bans, if smoking bans really was good for business, than every bar and restaurant in every town
would have already banned smoking and there would be absolutely no need for enforcement of the ban!
The bans are not popular with the common folk - that is why it still needs to be enforced after 10 years!
2. Its not about the health and safety of the employees. In every other industry when there is a legit concern about air quality, the matter is
addressed under the health and safety codes by the Labour department. Why is it that a man can work in a toll-booth, relying solely on ventilation to
protect his very life from carbon monoxide that would kill him in a very short amount of time, but ventilation cannot be provided to protect employees
from second-hand smoke that might never affect him in his lifetime at all?
Why is smoking banned outdoors if the issue is really about anyone's health and safety? There are safe limits of exposure to Sarin gas but
apparently second-hand smoke is more deadly than something that will kill you in minutes.
3. Some adults would prefer to go for a beer in a venue where kids are not allowed. However, with the loss of business, bars are forced to offer
"better" food and try to cater to families. There is no place left anymore where an adult can have a beer and not have to endure the bad behavior
4. If you can't stand the smell of cigarette smoke - read the sign on the door and choose a venue that offers the services of your choice. Are
non-smokers so stupid that the government needs to deny smokers a social life because non-smokers can't read a sign?
5. Where is the obligatory smoker who steps up and announces that he is relieved that the government has banned smoking because he may now finally be
able to quit smoking - (was there ever a more pathetic person on the planet that announces his need for big government to enact laws to protect him
from his own choices?)
This whole thread reads like the anti-smoking play book and I would be surprised to find out that most of the posters are "volunteers" for some
anti-smoking group or lobbyists.
Tobacco Control is Out of Control.
And it won't stop until we tell every single one of them where to go and how to get there!
Next stop - Alcohol Prohibition - Sugar Prohibition and Government Mandated Exercise Programs
We are all smokers now!
Tired of Control Freaks