Falling oil prices and what`s behind it

Jawboning! I'll go with that narrative. It is the logical reason. I knew that before reading the piece but some of the information was enlightening. Thanks.

a reply to: LOSTinAMERICA

Apparently Obama has admitted it`s the case, see my post before this one.

I don't know. There will always be competition within the oil industry between USA, Russia & Saudi Arabia. I sort of thought myself that the sharp fall in gas prices was due to another issue that means they're all in it for quick money for some sudden reason. Add in the fact of the FEMA food grab and the ignorance of Japan and America over the Fukushima fallout, I think the answer isn't immediately clear but related to a non-oil excuse.

They're giving the public a meager chance at surviving the coming collapse by lowering process so they can stock up before the Looooong Cold Winter of our demise that they've planned for decades.

Anyone could be doing this and no one really knows who is doing it. All there is right now is finger pointing.

a reply to: St Udio

I noted this post which sort of sums up my take on the crisis responses/conventional wisdom about cheapo oil=cheap PMs...
a reply to: Ancient Champion

It seems clear to me that jumping-on-the-bandwagon.... and going along with the general consensus...
& claiming the general idea that this is designed to hurt the Russians, bankrupt the wildcat frackers in the USA is just scratching the surface...
hell fire--- I am a CT'er.... there is a lot more dark/deep sinister things going on with this cheap-oil suckers play

I just threw a few ideas out there but I ain't married to just those possible bad conspiracies on the world stage...
I just want a few of youse to present some stuff that's out-of-the-box

don't be scared to speculate beyond your 'comfort-zone'....
as I really think that the big 'net' is being drawn smaller and us captive actors are in denial of an approaching Arnageddon/Gog-Magog-civilization stunting series of events

originally posted by: VirusGuard
Well if the USA wants to attack Russia by shooting itself in the foot over shale gas then i think i know who's going to win that one since Russia could ask China to hep out if needs be.



OPEC like "we the people" has no rights and will simply do as the bankers in Washington tells them to do and would not dare fart in the wrong tone when it comes to Zionists who control the states.



Bp, Shell,Exxon are all drilling for oil inside Russia as we speak so they must be feeling the pain too and shows that this war might not be quite so hot as people are being told.



Maybe the truth is even worse than trying to provoke Russia/China into a nuclear war, maybe the demand has crashed in the west which will blow up the bonds and CDS markets and this bad news needs to be blamed on someone else besides the money counters.



NONE OF US REALY KNOW WHATS GOING ON !



This in itself is quite disturbing and only goes to show that these money changers can play the market as they see fit without a question being asked and if they can crash oil by 50% then taking gold down by 90% would be easy but thats not to say that you will ever get 1oz of physical gold for anything less than $500[/quote




The Wizzard of OZ. My pretty, you think clicking your heals together will help U. You and toe toe are already home. ah, ha,ha,ha,ha. Follow the yellow brick road, Follow the yellow brick road. MY Pretty have you looked into the mirror lately. YOUR A LEMING. Now go and follow the others over to the cliff. Follow the yellow brick road, Follow the yellow brick road.

ON The whole Big Oil thing. At least they are all taking out the pollutants from earth. Burning them is Bad, but it will turn the stuff into CO2 Pollutants which will go into the air then settle on the ground for the plants to take in and change to oxygen. Hopefully the pollutants will not be to much and plunge the earth into another Ice Age. Mother earth's way of cleansing the planet of the fleas on her back by an ICE AGE. That way it will melt again to have to plants to grow again and mother nature goes back to normal. All the holes in the earth from all this fracking,shale,oil sucking,coal mines,gas deposits and all other mining deposites will leave all kinds of holes underground that will eventually SINK along with the occupants above ground to fall into the dark abysssssssssssssssss.

originally posted by: cloaked4u
ON The whole Big Oil thing. At least they are all taking out the pollutants from earth. Burning them is Bad, but it will turn the stuff into CO2 Pollutants which will go into the air then settle on the ground for the plants to take in and change to oxygen. Hopefully the pollutants will not be to much and plunge the earth into another Ice Age. Mother earth's way of cleansing the planet of the fleas on her back by an ICE AGE. That way it will melt again to have to plants to grow again and mother nature goes back to normal. All the holes in the earth from all this fracking,shale,oil sucking,coal mines,gas deposits and all other mining deposites will leave all kinds of holes underground that will eventually SINK along with the occupants above ground to fall into the dark abysssssssssssssssss.

so you are dismissing the idea that there are corrupt, Vulture Capitalists who are orchestrating this oil price collapse & that reasoned thinkers are directing the demise of all oil/ polluting oil,,, ventures in the world...

well OK with that

a reply to: St Udio


All the people who use these materials as consumers are to blame also. You use these products to do many things like heat your home,gas in car to go to work, plastics to put things in like foods and such, oils to grease your gears and all other machines to function on. You know all, and i mean ALL SOCIETIES would TOTALLY have a different lifestyle without these products. When we phase out of this stuff is the SCAREY part. I mean really, think about how much these things impact our daily lives. NO GAS, NO FOOD to be transported to your local grocery stores. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. Utter Mayhan, thats what will happen, A WORLD OF CHAOS. Really. We need to phase out of these things so that the impact would not be so devastating. Other means of power, other than nuclear,gas and coal. We need to use the energies that do not pollute our environment. One day this stuff will all be used up, THEN WHAT? When this all runs out you will see the END OF THE BANKER and the beginning of barter and trade like back in old. I # you not. When the end of these kinds of materials goes away so will the LEACHES OF THE LAND, they will be swallowed up by the hoard and the hoard will collapse in on itself. We need to seriously think about this. You may laugh, but your children may find themselves running around scavaging for food. Neighbor against neighbor, friend against friend, brother against brother for any kind of morsel of food. REALLY. Without oil and gas you have no heat and no gas to run any kind of vehicles to move products. BAD , VERY BAD. The whole WORLD is addicted to these things and soon will no longer be. Over 9 billion people and counting. We will consume these things in a very,very,very short amount of time. AFTER that, ALL MAYHAN.

Are slumping oil prices are doing what an american failed foreign policy couldn't? I heard that question the other day and it made me think...

a reply to: St Udio

bumping my own reply, because the info-wars site wrote a piece that follows mine more-or-less and I thought it would show that there are a few here on ATS which feel/know that there is more to the cheap-oil gambit than the obvious chatter


link: www.infowars.com...


here's a thought.... the elites are already secure & well off enough to weather a generation of mob chaos & a zombie population.... so instead of gradually 'inflating' the economies they have decided that to achieve a long-lived family succession of elites living like gods.... that deflating the economies is the tactic to take

i.e. their Billions which would erode away in an inflationary economic paradigm will both increase today and tomorrow(s) in a deflationary economic paradigm.... cheap-oil gambit is a way to slow all economies, bring industry to a halt, and those with resources/assets will continue to get even wealthier as a days wage goes from $10. hr to $1 a day among the zombified peasant class of useless eaters

or else... here is another line of thought by a good economy analytics man:

usawatchdog.com...

... . . . What this breakdown in the crude oil price is going to spawn another financial crisis.
It will be tied to the junk debt that has been issued to finance the shale oil plays in North America.
It is reported to be in the area of half a trillion dollars worth of junk debt that is held largely on the books of large financial institutions in the western world.
When these bonds start to fail, they will jeopardize the future of these financial institutions.
I do believe that will be the signal for the Fed to come riding to the rescue with QE4.
I also think QE4 is likely going to be accompanied by bank bail-ins because we all know all western world countries have adopted bail-in legislation in their most recent budgets.

The financial elites are engineering the excuse for their next round of money printing . . . and they will be confiscating money out of savings accounts and pension accounts.
That’s what I think is coming in the very near future.”

see... It's not about crippling the Russians...it's about crashing the individual's $$$
& to bail-in the twic-as-busted Banks that have a Trillion in Bonds for Shale oil and the Trillions of "protecting" derivatives intended to profit from the junk Shale-Oil Bonds/Loans/payment extensions that is funding this false GDP growth economy




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