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originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: Onslaught2996
Not to mention knives, blunt objects, fireplace pokers....
How many responsible gun owners have kids in their houses? Plenty. It's called a locked safe.
Don't forget hammers, chisels and adjustable metric crescent wrenches.
originally posted by: AgentShillington
Pull up stats on how many mass murders are committed by knives, blunt objects, fireplace pokers, hammers, chisels, and crescent wrenches, and then we can have a proper discussion about your examples.
I wont hold my breath.
originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: AgentShillington
And look how many people are killed by pills and accidents. Still, after intrusive, red tape regulations.
Look you can have your guns, lets just stop shooting so many people with them
originally posted by: AgentShillington
originally posted by: Krakatoa
a reply to: AgentShillington
Why is the dad not "in their sights" before the mfg? I'll tell you my opinion, because they have more $$$$$$$$$$$$$ than he does. Follow the money.
Was it the dad's gun? If it wasn't the dad's gun, then I don't see what he has to do with anything.
He didn't kill anyone.
The guns used weren't licensed to him.
He shouldn't be held accountable for the same reasons you saw the mother SHOULD be held accountable.
originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: AgentShillington
Less. Because then there isn't a stigma, no image of rebellion and strength surrounding them. No taboos.
originally posted by: AgentShillington
a reply to: xuenchen
So... 13? You come back with 13?
There has been a school shooting every 5 weeks since Sandy Hook. That's just school shootings.
originally posted by: Krakatoa
originally posted by: AgentShillington
originally posted by: Krakatoa
a reply to: AgentShillington
Why is the dad not "in their sights" before the mfg? I'll tell you my opinion, because they have more $$$$$$$$$$$$$ than he does. Follow the money.
Was it the dad's gun? If it wasn't the dad's gun, then I don't see what he has to do with anything.
He didn't kill anyone.
The guns used weren't licensed to him.
He shouldn't be held accountable for the same reasons you saw the mother SHOULD be held accountable.
As his father, HE is MORE responsible IMO than the gun mfg who didn't even know AL, let alone know the mother. How can these parents reach out and try to tag the mfg before the rest of the family that KNEW that AL had mental challenges, knew he had ready access to firearms that he was prevented from owning by a successful application of the system in place? That is my point. They are both ridiculous options. However, the mfg has more $$$$$$$$$$$$ available to siphon away for the lawyers.
originally posted by: muchmadness
That's odd. How is the gun manufacturer more to blame than the police officers on the scene who kept the medics away from the school while all those kids bled out? That's who I'd be going after. Or the people in charge of keeping the roadway clear for ambulances so that the only egress from the school wouldn't become a hopelessly congested clusterfudge.