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originally posted by: josehelps
a reply to: peter vlar
And you have proof of this how? How do you know it's confirmation bias MR. scientist / evolutionist.
It takes more than understanding to believe in your faith.
What proof do we have we are related to primates. Now is your chance to prove me wrong. Where is your proof?
That's correct, because like I have explained many times over...
Intervention is the understanding that we were brought to this planet by another life form, against our will. It's not a religion, not a faith, not a cult, not a belief, not a practice, not a church, not a following, not a theory, not a hypothesis, it's certainly not a joke, it's simply an understanding based on redundant facts. This understanding can only be realized if you have a plethora of years in the study of the supernatural, and have a keen eye for spotting activity in stories, even if the author doesn't. Of course the best source for this information is several versions of the bible, in addition to the facts that concur in science. Lets be sure I'm clear on this. Lets pretend for the moment that you know nothing about math, and let's say that I present you with a problem that says four times four. Now lets say that this subject is seriously something you want to understand, as this is about your lineage. You might even come up with some ideas as to what it means. But there is seriously no way you're going to guess what it all means.
So you settle with the best understanding you can (which actually doesn't result in making any sense by itself), and now you have just explained today's religion.
So I tell you this equation equals "sixteen." Would you, could you, indicate that what I'm presenting to you is surely my belief? You could, but you're out of context.
If I understand it, and you don't, that doesn't constitute it being a belief, it's an understanding based on redundant facts. A belief implies that I have an opinion or a faith, you will soon realize this is nothing like that. I understand the supernatural extremely well.
Of course, what this means in English is that 99.99% of the people reading, preaching, worshiping, the bible, don't understand it.
You might wonder, why in the world would anyone try to understand the bible through the supernatural perspective.
Perhaps it's the bible being prefaced as dealing with the supernatural, which actually means if you don't have that experience, your not qualified to understand it.
In addition, we have no other books to compare it to. Perhaps it's the thirty four versus in the bible about aliens
Perhaps it's the Ezekiel chapter where Sky Daddy comes down from the sky's to visit us in his space craft.
Maybe it's all of the activity mentioned in the bible that match with our reported alien encounters.
Maybe it's the documentation of advanced technology used in the bible. Perhaps it's the mentioning in Hebrews that Earth is not our home, obviously meaning we are aliens to this planet.
Heaven is a planet, not a place you end up when you die. If the bible was meant for dead people, they would have it, not us. Several years ago, while researching the Ezekiel chapter, I made contact with one of the pastors at the Union Gospel Mission, here in my home town. I shared some of my findings with him, and asked him if it were possible that God was a space alien. His response revealed, that it's entirely possible.
Clearly you lack the understanding to comprehend the difference here. You are trying to compare a sci-fi movie with a historical supernatural book. That's like me comparing your Evolution to a board game. Do you have both ear holes plugged?
So please tell me about your background and understanding with the supernatural?
I've noticed a few pages back you placed evolution in the realm of pseudoscience. This really boggles my mind because, there are thousands if not more scientists who study evolutionary theory. The amount of research over the last century or so, especially in more recent decades, by these multitudes of scientists has been exhaustive. Yet you disregard their hard work with a wave of your hand as pseudoscience. How are the likes of Lloyd Pye not the pseudo scientists? They comprise a mere handful of people. While some of the ideas they entertain may or may not be true, they have a bad habit of questionable methods. Habits such as moving goalposts, disregarding evidence, misrepresenting evidence, forming a conclusion and then looking for evidence to fit. More often than not, their credentials are also lacking. Last but not least, they ask for money (or drop the hint) wherever they go. So why, in your opinion, should we trust them over the more numerous, more trustworthy scientific community?
If the Starchild skull had any real possibility of being an alien-human hybrid don't you think there would be numerous scientists or investors clamoring to prove it so? In all the years the skull has been in the public eye is it not odd to you that no real effort has been made to prove its alien DNA? Instead it's just Lloyd Pye and friends asking for money for all this time. Please think about how easy it actually is to raise money when you're a popular pseudo scientist. Reference my post a few pages back about crowd funding.
How convenient (or inconvenient depending on perspective), ALL of the bones were washed away except the skull. So it's impossible to test the rest of the skeleton for DNA. I don't know if this story is false or not, sounds fishy though. Frankly it's irrelevant. I just wanted to point out that it reminds me of another debunked pseudoscientific claim. That of a young girl all on her own finding a crystal skull..
Where are all the other bones of alien-human hybrids? Surely this Starchild skull would not be the only one, right? Why is this the only one?
And here it begins. The circuit these guys all take. Going around charging who knows what to hear them speak. Making their rounds on all the radio talk shows pushing their books and websites. Don't get me wrong, I used to be an addict to programs like Coast to Coast AM. In fact Lloyd Pye was one of my favorite guests back in the day. I couldn't wait for him to raise the money, do the testing, then prove the obvious. Then I got older, wiser, and more skeptical. In the ten plus years of waiting for conclusive results from Pye I realized they were never coming. All the guy has are vague stories, dishonest tactics, and he never stopped asking for money. Red flag after red flag. Just another fraud.
All your dollaz belongz to me! $$$$$ Seriously, if the above claim was remotely true there would be a clamor of other scientists and universities jumping on board to verify and alter our understanding of the universe around us. As it stands, Pye's camp has perpetually always needed just a little bit more money. Claims like the one above are the worm on at the end of a hook.
Save up = we need more donations. www.starchildproject.com... Just to recap the questions: Where are all the other bones of alien-human hybrids? Surely this Starchild skull would not be the only one, right? Why is this the only one? What about the girls name? Do we know that? Thanks in advance. edit on 12-17-2014 by WakeUpBeer because: typo
A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis or group of hypotheses that have been supported with repeated testing. If enough evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, it moves to the next step—known as a theory—in the scientific method and becomes accepted as a valid explanation of a phenomenon.
When used in non-scientific context, the word “theory” implies that something is unproven or speculative. As used in science, however, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.
Any scientific theory must be based on a careful and rational examination of the facts. In the scientific method, there is a clear distinction between facts, which can be observed and/or measured, and theories, which are scientists’ explanations and interpretations of the facts. Scientists can have various interpretations of the outcomes of experiments and observations, but the facts, which are the cornerstone of the scientific method, do not change?
A theory must include statements that have observational consequences. A good theory, like Newton’s theory of gravity, has unity, which means it consists of a limited number of problem-solving strategies that can be applied to a wide range of scientific circumstances. Another feature of a good theory is that it formed from a number of hypotheses that can be tested independently.
originally posted by: josehelps
a reply to: kayej1188
No that's not what I got out of it, and certainly not what he ended up with either, at least as close as he could get to it. I think the proper term is a zygote. or a three parent baby.
I think your understanding of genetics is a little off kilter here.
You see a hybrid would assume that it's half human and half alien, I don't recall him ever claiming that, nor assume it.
What I understood is the same thing that the UK is actually doing right now, where the Mitochondria is taken from a human female and replaces the mtDNA of an existing fertilized alien pair.
originally posted by: josehelps
a reply to: kayej1188
Dude, you are clearly LOST.
The three parent baby is a reality, and in fact the UK is doing it right now. Only Pye's skull was 900 years old, and claimed to be such.
I just posted an over abundance of proof that aliens inhabited this planet in the past.