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originally posted by: data5091
a reply to: mirageman
I think the fact that such an incident as complex and as big as this one, would not all aspects of it make sense, I think, would be a given. There has been so much disinformation and additional information about it all over the past so many decades, how could parts of it not make sense? Personally I believe the headlines were correct originally. The headline that said " Flying Disc Recovered" or whatever the original headline was. The biggest reason I feel this way is because almost immediately after this the military jumped in and demanded a change in the storyline, and offered a different version. A stances they have pretty much taken, and defended ever since.
originally posted by: UnderKingsPeak
my opinion is the 509th were not naive,my grandfather being one of them.
He was an atomic weapon carrying B29 pilot stationed there in 1947.
He was one of the smartest people I've known.
It's also my opinion Popular Science Nat Geo The History Channel
are all media fronts for the NSA. I'd believe what they say about UFO's
about as much as their 9/11 reports.
My grandfather denied the existence of ET craft every time in 38 years of asking.
That is until 2 years before he died. When asked that time all he did was say
"do you really want to know?" I said um yeah...obviously.
and then he simply nodded solemnly .This way he never said it.
originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
One of my beliefs is the Roswell incident was a plan of deception by the Germans. I firmly believe the work Hitler was doing in creating these discs was a part of his plan. But I am open to all and any ideas on this.
This is the cropped word "Victims" in Photoshop with an emboss filter added. The first letter actually looks like an F not a V. The spacing between the first two letters is consistent with an FI rather than a VI also. The point where the word is, is fairly flat on the page as well.
"Close to the place where the first atomic bomb was tested, a rancher in Roswell, New Mexico, U.S.A. said, in July 1947, to have found a flying saucer. It landed on his ranch, and was inspected by officers of the 509th atomic bomb group of the 8th U.S. Air Force, who sent it to a ‘higher quarter.’
This reported find followed a report from Dr. C. J. Zohn, guided missile expert of the U.S. Naval Laboratory, that he and two other scientists had sighted a flying saucer near White Sands, New Mexico, a proving ground to which public access is prohibited.
Down came U.S. Army authorities who declared this was merely a weather balloon; despite the plain statement of Mr. Ivan R. Tannehill, weather bureau chief forecaster, that it was unlikely that this mysterious object speeding through the skies at a speed above the rate of transmission of sound waves, could have been a weather balloon. He pointed out that weather balloons have been in use for many years."
“A commentator interrupted a programme to make the announcement that a saucer had crashed in New Mexico, and that the Army were moving in to investigate. Later the programme was interrupted again, and quite a few details given. Several news flashes about the incident, from various radio stations, followed. The last I heard was just before reaching Philadelphia. The announcer promised further bulletins. None followed. When I got to Philadelphia I bought all the newspapers I could lay my hands on. But not one carried the story, and questions at the radio station just drew a blank. It’s mystified me ever since”
“Do the Americans have a flying saucer in their possession? Reports from America suggest that the US has more than one. More than one or parts of one at Wright Patterson Field……Flying Saucer enthusiasts all over the world believe there is some truth in the story but that it is being as carefully guarded as any atomic or military secret for fear of causing public panic.”
"... at Roswell a farmer reported that he saw something strike a mountainside and crash. According to what I was told, they threw troops in a circle all around that place, and would let nobody in for five days. Finally they came up with a picture of a man holding a little crumpled kite with aluminium foil on it --- a radar target --- they said this was it --- believe it or not. There have been many other rumours since then of saucers having crashed. I don't know whether there's any truth in them."
"There are such difficult cases as the rancher near Roswell, New Mexico, who phoned the Sheriff that a blazing disc-shaped object had passed over his house at low altitude and had crashed and burned on a hillside within view of the house. The Sheriff called the military; the military came on the double quick.
Newsmen were not permitted in the area. A week later, however, the government released a photograph of a service man holding up a box kite with an aluminium disc about the size of a large pie pan dangling from the bottom of the kite.
This, the official report explained, was a device borne aloft on the kite and used to test radar gear by bouncing the signals off the pie pan. And this, we were told, was the sort of thing that had so excited the rancher.
We were not told, however, how the alleged kite caught fire—nor why the military cordoned off the area while they inspected the wreckage of a burned-out box kite with a non-inflammable pie pan tied to it."
In New Mexico a woman (subsequently identified as Lydia Sleppy) with a responsible position received a call from a station manager. He had been checking out reports of a UFO which had crashed in a field and was trying to track down the rumour that pieces of the object were supposedly stored in a local barn.
In his excited call to the newsroom, the station manager verified the UFO crash report, and also claimed to have seen metallic pieces of the UFO being carried away to a waiting Air Force plane destined to Wright Patterson Air Force Base.
As the woman was typing the fantastic news item over the teletype to their other two stations, a line appeared in the middle of her text, tapped in from somewhere, with the official order, "Do not continue this transmission!"
originally posted by: MAC269
a reply to: mirageman
The facts that I go on are irrefutable.
In July 1947 William Hugh Blanchard ordered a press release stating that The AAF had recovered a Flying Disc. This can not be argued.
The US air force finally changes its story from a Weather Balloon to a Mogal Balloon, stating that the latter was Top Secret at the time. This can not be argued.
Both the Weather Balloon to a Mogal Balloon consisted of Tin Foil, Balsa Wood, Neoprene and String. This can not be argued.
So a colonel in the US AAF who is in charge of the most elite bomber squadron in the world in 1947 confuses Tin Foil, Balsa Wood, Neoprene and String with something that flew in from outer space and ends his courier at stated below.
General William Hugh Blanchard (February 6, 1916 – May 31, 1966) was a United States Air Force officer who attained the rank of four-star general and served as Vice Chief of Staff of the United States Air Force from 1965 to 1966.
My conclusion is that something very unusual happened back then, and that they are still lying about it to his day.