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The point therefore of enlightenment is to realise the transient nature of the "ego" and submit oneself to the "whole".
Suffering is thus caused by the fact that the ego will "die" one day and thus we cling onto an "illusion".
Does that really matter when it comes to purpose, does something being "impermanent" mean that it must not exist for a reason?
I see much purpose in the existence of the ego and "attachment" for although one might be "deluded", the self that we can define, for ourselves, is our meagre attempt at conceptualising what we are when we purport that we are unique.
I do not regret having an "ego" because I have realised that I want to be different, it is a choice that I have made, and I continue to pursue it.
The way I see it, the more interesting we become as individuals, the greater extent we can experience the fun of being individuals, by interacting with each other and sharing our experiences. Otherwise, just rolling together like a giant snowball and becoming "whole" would only serve to standardise us all and really we only can define purpose to our lives when we have our own individual paths - and individualities.
originally posted by: preludefanguy
a reply to: Emma3
a misconception perhaps?
does not the naming of the object in your own beliefs already express the biases you have towards such beliefs?
a word of caution, don't get too caught up in words
what does it mean to be god? what does it mean to walk in the light/body of christ?
what does it mean to have the kingdom of god here now within us? not there, or then, but here... always here...
drop the beliefs and see what humanity has always been attempting at, what was there to begin with always
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: SystemResistor
Whether one believes himself to be an individual or not is inconsequential. He still nonetheless has an idea of himself, and will use whatever fluffy terms he can use to describe it, usually erring on the terms that makes him look better to others, and most likely himself.
The declaration of "I am enlightened" is exactly what it sounds like: "I am enlightened, you are not"; "I know all, you do not". What knowledge they are referring to when asserting this is their own knowledge, circular reasoning. That is basically all it amounts to—a competition to see who can sound the most profound, and consequently, who can spit the most confusing rhetoric with little to no reality. It's an attempted installation of a hierarchy through purely rhetorical means, where he who tries to implement it sees himself at the top. Of course, in practice, no such hierarchy is apparent, and their enlightenment fades away as soon as they stop claiming they are.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: SystemResistor
Whether one believes himself to be an individual or not is inconsequential. He still nonetheless has an idea of himself, and will use whatever fluffy terms he can use to describe it, usually erring on the terms that makes him look better to others, and most likely himself.
The declaration of "I am enlightened" is exactly what it sounds like: "I am enlightened, you are not"; "I know all, you do not". What knowledge they are referring to when asserting this is their own knowledge, circular reasoning. That is basically all it amounts to—a competition to see who can sound the most profound, and consequently, who can spit the most confusing rhetoric with little to no reality. It's an attempted installation of a hierarchy through purely rhetorical means, where he who tries to implement it sees himself at the top. Of course, in practice, no such hierarchy is apparent, and their enlightenment fades away as soon as they stop claiming they are.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: TzarChasm
Youth. We eventually grow out of it.