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Here are several places in KJV/NASB that speak of Jesus as the only "begotten" Son of God
John 3:16 (most well known);
John 1:14 and 18 Again over in 1 John 4:9
The word "begotten" generally suggests the idea of originating from or being produced by someone else
Genesis chapter 5; Matthew chapter 1
Yes, the human person of Jesus was born into a human family [see next section], but the pre-incarnate Son of God as a divine person has no originâ€
Other places where it is stated that Jesus is "begotten" or "born" of God; translated from Greek gennao
Hebrews 1:5; 5:5; Acts 13:33, all quotes from Psalm 2:7, likely referring to Christ's birth and arrival as the promised Messiah
Same word is translated as "born" in regards to Jesus in Matthew 2:1, 4; Luke 1:35; 1 John 5:1 (also v18 regarding Christians who are born of God)
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The phrase "only begotten" in the above-mentioned verses, in the original Greek language, is monogenes (pronounced hard g as in go; Strong #3439)…
Combination of two words: "monos" which means "only" or "alone," and "genos" which means "of the same nature, kind, sort, species"
A better translation might be "only one of its kind" or "only unique" or just "only," but not "begotten."
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And Mary the daughter of ‘Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (her body) of Our spirit. – Qur’an 66.12 – ‘Ali
She said: “O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?” He said: “Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a Plan. He but saith to it, ‘Be,’ and it is! – Qur’an 3.47 – ‘Ali
This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. – Bible Matthew 1:18
Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. – Bible Matthew 1:20
“How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. – Bible Luke 1:34-35
The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. – Bible Isaiah 7:14 & Matthew 1:23
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John 1:12 ESV
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
Galatians 3:26
For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.
Romans 8:17-19 ESV
And if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God.
1 John 2:28-3:10
And now, little children, abide in him, so that when he appears we may have confidence and not shrink from him in shame at his coming. If you know that he is righteous, you may be sure that everyone who practices righteousness has been born of him. See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.
1 Peter 2:10
Once you were not a people, but now you are God's people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
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Genesis 6:1-22 ESV
When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
When humans began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the men who were following the Holy Spirit saw that women were attractive.
Breaking the natural law, they took as their wives any they chose (polygamy). In his anger the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.”
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the one's who obeyed the Holy Spirit bore children with their wives(polygamy).
These were the mighty men who were of old, the MEN OF RENOWN. The Lord saw that the WICKEDNESS of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only EVIL continually.
Hebrews 1:5
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
originally posted by: BlackManINC
a reply to: [post=18540787]sacgamer25
I let the Bible speak for itself. John says that in the beginning was the word, the word was God and the word became flesh. He's not referring to anything God spoke into existence in the creation account, contrary to what the heathens who follow the Koran would probably like you to believe. John was not referring to anything or anybody else but Jesus in that chapter,
originally posted by: graphuto
a reply to: sacgamer25
God is love. He is also jealous, and wrathful.
Exodus 34:14
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
John 3:16 My Interpretation God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son created in his likeness, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. If you look at the translations biblehub.com... it seems many translators have had an issue with begotten. Why?
originally posted by: graphuto
My thoughts :
This whole idea of "Nephillim" is ridiculous foolishness.
In fact, that word is never even mentioned in the Bible.
Hebrews 1:5
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
To which of the angels did he EVER say that they were his son? None of them. Sons of God aren't angels. Believers are. And Jesus is the only begotten Son.
Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
It's simply stating that there were giants in those days, and also after that.
When the sons of God (believers) came in unto the daughters of men (regular people), those children became mighty men, men of renown.
This doesn't say anything about angels and humans crossbreeding and creating some ridiculous "half man, half angel" sort of being.
Pretty bizarre exegesis of scripture, if you ask me.
originally posted by: sacgamer25
originally posted by: BlackManINC
a reply to: [post=18540787]sacgamer25
I let the Bible speak for itself. John says that in the beginning was the word, the word was God and the word became flesh. He's not referring to anything God spoke into existence in the creation account, contrary to what the heathens who follow the Koran would probably like you to believe. John was not referring to anything or anybody else but Jesus in that chapter,
Isn't the WORD SPOKEN? Despite what you learned at church, Jesus Christ is the light in Genesis, Just as he confirms in the new testament. He was created.
Thus when his disciple says good teacher and he replies, "why do you call ME good", he ahows that he bows in to submission to the father, who is the CREATOR, Jesus is the Holy Light that was CREATED.
Jesus is man's creator because he is our lord YHWH. But he says he only does what his father tells him.
So although Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, YHWH created us he considers us like him amd wishes that we worship our father. Because we are all a part of the light, and we were all created, including the one who is the light.
God is love. Many people say he is more than love and I say he is not. I say the more we evolve in our understanding of love the closer we will come to understanding our father.
God is Love, and mankind is in our infancy of understanding.
The word "begotten" generally suggests the idea of originating from or being produced by someone else
originally posted by: new_here
a reply to: sacgamer25
This definition of begotten:
The word "begotten" generally suggests the idea of originating from or being produced by someone else
...inspired me to see the passage "God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son..." in a whole new light.
The Angels and Jesus are sons of God. Jesus was the only 'begotten' son because he was the only one to be born from a human's womb. Mary gave birth to Jesus (aka 'begot' him) whereas all sons of God were initially created by God speaking them into existence. No begetting by involved. Jesus existed with God before being begotten, just as all the Angels did/do. But Jesus is the only one of them 'begotten' by a woman. The only 'begotten' son.
I'm not sure I explained that well, but I see a difference in that He is not the ONLY son, but the only BEGOTTEN son.
Interesting.
Source
How is it that the number of the pagan nations
was determined in relation to an entity (Israel) or individuals (Jacob and his household)
that did not yet exist?
Source
The prophets of the Old Testament rail against Baal, Asherah and various other gods on nearly every page. The reason for this is simple to understand; the people of Israel worshipped these gods along with, and sometimes instead of, Yahweh, the God of Israel. This Biblical denunciation of these Canaanite gods received a fresh face when the Ugaritic texts were discovered, for at Ugarit these were the very gods that were worshipped......In 1 Kings 22:19-22 we read of Yahweh meeting with his heavenly council. This is the very description of heaven which one finds in the Ugaritic texts. For in those texts the “sons of god” are the sons of El.
Psalm 82 ESV
God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked. They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course. I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
originally posted by: BlackManINC
originally posted by: new_here
a reply to: sacgamer25
This definition of begotten:
The word "begotten" generally suggests the idea of originating from or being produced by someone else
...inspired me to see the passage "God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son..." in a whole new light.
The Angels and Jesus are sons of God. Jesus was the only 'begotten' son because he was the only one to be born from a human's womb. Mary gave birth to Jesus (aka 'begot' him) whereas all sons of God were initially created by God speaking them into existence. No begetting by involved. Jesus existed with God before being begotten, just as all the Angels did/do. But Jesus is the only one of them 'begotten' by a woman. The only 'begotten' son.
I'm not sure I explained that well, but I see a difference in that He is not the ONLY son, but the only BEGOTTEN son.
Interesting.
Jesus didn't just exist with God before he was begotten, he was God in his very essence from the beginning.