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IS ISIS and the Ukraine connected to World War III geopolitical strategic maneuverings?

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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:10 PM
Their may be a sinister connection between the ISIS fiasco and the Ukraine confrontation of the US and Russia.

Indeed, is the ISIS threat and its ramifications of the US involvement( bombing Syria and Iraq with Gulf state allies) in the Mideast theater a prelude of the US geopolitical move to shore up the Mideast in a third world war scenario that could start over the Ukraine?

Notably, recently a Noble Laureate recently commented on this horrific scenario:

The United States and Russia are dangerously close to stumbling into a war over Ukraine that could go nuclear and kill hundreds of millions of people in a single day, a Nobel laureate who is one of the world’s leading experts on the dangers of nuclear weapons warned in Washington this week.
“It’s an incredibly dangerous situation. … If there’s a nuclear war tonight, that’s the Northern Hemisphere (of the entire world) gone, Dr. Helen Caldicott told a National Press Club Newsmakers news conference on Wednesday. She was speaking on the topic: “Ukraine: Is Nuclear Conflict Likely?”

Caldicott is an Australian physician who founded the International Physicians against Nuclear War, a group that under her leadership won the 1985 Nobel Peace Prize. She is the former president of the Nuclear Policy Research Institute based in Washington”


The expansion of NATO to Russia’s borders is “very, very dangerous,” Caldicott said. “There is no way a war between the United States and Russia could start and not go nuclear. … The United States and Russia have enormous stockpiles of these weapons. Together they have 94 percent of all the 16,300 nuclear weapons in the world.” “We are in a very fallible, very dangerous situation operated by mere mortals,” she warned. “The nuclear weapons, are sitting there, thousands of them. They are ready to be used.” So we know now the dangerous situation the world reached in the Ukraine crises. And we know that the US government knows more than we do about their (own) intentions and Russia’s intentions so it may be no coincidence that ISIS started its march on Baghdad at the exact time of the Ukraine crises!


Is this all merely geopolitical chicanery by the US to get an advantage on Russia in the next, maybe near, world wide military confrontation of these two powers? Certainly in the event of such a world wide clash the Mideast would be paramount in strategic importance.
So the US getting its forces very near this area in the event of conflict makes a hell of a lot of sense.

And this little ISIS crisis is an apt excuse for the US to martial its allies together.

Of course we all know that in a REAL war (not these phony wars like Afghanistan and this one against ISIS) the US would exterminate ISIS like one exterminates a roach in no time flat.

We have to understand that the real secret government would NEVER allude to this kind of strategic movement and intention for such a purpose in the whore MSM who only report superficial junk to the people not any kind of subtle or nuanced possibilities: keep the people simple minded and stupid....

So indeed most of us speculate on the ISIS problem being a psyop of the US to wrestle Syria away from the Syrians or surreptitiously an attack on Iran.


You heard it here first!

Of course if I am right it won’t matter will it?

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:15 PM
The US already has a massive advantage over Russia. What would be the advantage of getting US forces drug into a conflict with ISIS when they would be better used against Russia? This makes zero sense. And what is this nonsense about using ISIS to get Assad? The one thing that has been clear all along is the US wants nothing to do with getting involved in directly removing Assad no matter how much the Turks and the Arabs states want it done.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:25 PM
a reply to: Willtell


Any chance you have another source, because globalresearch has a track record of being Pro Russian/Anti America and and posting articles that follow the same line?

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:29 PM
yep when RUssia, and NATO goto war China, will then take the world over..

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:38 PM
Toppling Assad is the primary goal for the US. Then we could pipe oil directly to Europe from the middle East destroying European energy dependence on Russia overnight. This would cripple Russia permanently. If you think Putin is just gonna roll over to let the Western powers gain permanent dominance you're deluded. America is playing a dangerous selfish game. They know they can't keep this up much longer. This is the end game.

One huge gambit before we end up marginalized by the rise of the BRICs. You don't need articles hand feeding you the information. Just look at American maneuvering since 9/11. We aren't toppling Arab Muslim regimes out of goodwill towards Muslims. Many Americans would be happier killing every Muslim on Earth. Just look at the news lately to see the massive hatred towards Muslims. It's all about oil. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand the basis of American military and economic might.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:50 PM

originally posted by: Bicent76
yep when RUssia, and NATO goto war China, will then take the world over..

If such a war were to happen and go nuclear, China would be a nearby casualty. I doubt China would just stand by and watch it happen and they'd have to get involved. At worst, they would gang up on us with Russia.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:52 PM
The whole thing is about natural gas pipelines to Europe from Qatar.

Russia gets the business now.

Qatar/Saudi Arabia want the business.

Trillions of dollars involved over time.

Russia wants no peace in the ME, thus no pipeline.

Russia would get no investment from Qatar/Saudi, but might from a Syria/Iraq/Iran pipeline.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:54 PM

originally posted by: xuenchen
Russia wants no peace in the ME, thus no pipeline.

Russia supports Iran, Russia supports Iranian activities, Sanctions stay on Iran. Russia doesn't have to worry about Iranian competition for EU sales.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:58 PM
a reply to: LogicalGraphitti

Sigh, nothing would be left after a icbm attack between nato and Russia.. Central command would be decimated, infrastructure would cease to exist.. Last I check the only country on the planet that had the proper electrical components that would need to be replaced after a emp blast or multiple ones is China..

WWIII will not last years it will last moments...

Nothing cute, or glamorous about it... If you do not die within the blast radius the fallout is going to take you out. Not to mention all these dipspits, who say they can survive a nuclear war perhaps you can but the ecosystem will be screwed, without the balance in the ecosystem, plants animals etc. The land is a waste... I will not want to be alive.. Not to mention the world would be at a constant war for the next 100 years or more, think this is hell LOL not quite...

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 07:00 PM
We’re always dependent on the media or government spin and their ramifications of events.

We think in simple linear ways rarely above, below, or beyond what the media frenzies take us into.

Trying to expand on possibilities beyond this block thinking is desirable imo…

It may be that this ISIS thing is something other than even what the common conspiracy theories espouse.


In other words

What's really going on?

edit on 13-10-2014 by Willtell because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 07:07 PM
Also why can’t any of us come up with an original thought once in a while?

Why are we ALWAYS so dependent on the media or governing bodies for what to think?

Or can even we at ATS get out of the box of block thinking?

Appearances are deceptive.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 07:13 PM
a reply to: Willtell

The mess in Ukraine is probably linked to Snowden. The US is punishing Russia for not giving him up.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 07:25 PM
Type 'Illuminati Connections Isis cults' into a search engine and things get pretty obvious real quick...

One article title really got my attention when researching this: 'The Cult of Baal Never Disappeared'

Eustace Mullins believed that ALL of this stuff is connected and I believe he was actually right.

The core of the control over Planet Earth's populace lies in ancient cults. These cults are still in existence to this day. Following the most ancient religions mixed with sexual worship.

The main cults are the worship of the Planet Saturn (El), Moon (ISIS), Venus (Lucifer) & Sun (Ra).

Child/Human Trafficking is one of the fastest growing crimes in the world. Child/human trafficking is a 12 billion dollar a year industry and is the world's second largest criminal enterprise, after drugs.

Saturn = Satan = El = Moloch.

The power elite of this world worship Saturn and appease him with child sacrifices just as they have for hundreds of years. The most public of these displays is the "Cremation of Care" ceremony held annually at Bohemian Grove, where the members sacrifice a child to their god Moloch.

Baal and Molech Worship

"And they built the high places of Baal that are in the valley of Ben-Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech" (Jeremiah 32:35).

"They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons as offering to Baal" (Jeremiah 19:5).

Here the Bible implies what modern archaeologists and anthropologists have recently discovered: that Molech and Baal represent the same pagan god.

This demon was known to the Greeks as Aphrodite; to the Egyptians as ISIS; and to the Phoenicians as Tanet.

1 Kings 11:7 calls Molech "the detestable idol of the Ammonites." The name Molech in Hebrew means: "to ascend the throne" or, in other words, to usurp God's authority.

The core of the control over Planet Earth's populace lies in ancient cults. These cults are still in existence to this day. Following the most ancient religions mixed with sexual worship.

The power elite of this world worship Saturn and appease him with child sacrifices just as they have for hundreds of years. The most public of these displays is the "Cremation of Care" ceremony held annually at Bohemian Grove, where the members sacrifice a child to their god Moloch.

What are the goals of the secret elite group, the inheritors of Illuminism (Moriah Conquering Wind), the Cult of Dionysius, the Cult of ISIS, Catharism, Bogomilism?

This elite group that also calls itself the OLYMPIANS (they truly believe they are equal in power and stature to the legendary gods of Olympus, who have, like Lucifer their god, set themselves above our true God) absolutely believe they have been charged with implementing the following by divine right:

Today’s occult elite still observes these rites, but with one major difference: They are now carried out on unsuspecting civilians and spread across the world through mass media. Fed and amplified by the fear and trauma of the masses, these mega-rituals are seen by all, but only celebrated by the occult elite. More than ever, we are dealing with Black Magick.

“The human sacrifice required during many of these occult dates needs to contain the following elements, each one of which is exaggerated to the highest possible degree: People must die as human sacrifices, especially children, since The Darkness views younger human sacrifice as most desirable”

The Cult of Baal Never Disappeared

A Satanic cult has colonized the earth. This is the key to understanding history and avoiding the pitfalls of modern "cult--ure."

Humanity is Satanically Possessed

"After forty years of patient study of the crises which faces humanity, I arrived at a very simple conclusion-all conspiracies are Satanic! " Eustace Mullins

"In fact, I point out that all the conspiracies in history - especially during the last 5000 years - are actually different aspects of the same conspiracy. Some people fixed on one aspect of the conspiracy, and say this is the problem, others say another thing, but the thing is all the conspirators work together. All the conspirators are part of the same operation. And this is what people find very reluctant." - Eustace Mullins

edit on 13-10-2014 by Murgatroid because: I felt like it..

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 07:31 PM
Meanwhile, Isis has set up a real functioning Islamic Caliphate that is using weapons of mass destruction.

Saddam's former stash,

Gruesome photos may show ISIS using chemical weapons on Kurds, report says

no not the mythical handout from the US, the stockpiles Saddam manufactured at Muthanna,

Islamic State forces surged through the once-notorious Muthanna compound in Iraq, the massive base where Hussein began producing chemical weapons in the 1980s

and the hordes that were whisked away to Syria before Bush Jr invaded.

Long term planning or a little something saved for a rainy day when revenge is ripe?


Anyway that is real life stuff happening now, not cold war standstills of nuclear stockpiles that will never ever get launched.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 08:35 PM
It is the bitch Iraqi Army that is not fighting well against the ISIS.

US can bomb tanks and artillery from the air but fighting soldiers on pick up trucks is the job of the Iraqi Army. They are bringing not only a bad name to themselves but also to the training that was given to them by the US.

No wonder Pentagon chiefs have called for ground troops to deal with this ISIS menace.

Here is the map of what they plan. Terror on local population is the method used to quickly takeover towns.

While AQ is a secret terrorist organization, ISIS is a army of fanatics willing to be killed at a 5 minute notice.

Forget Ukraine, this band of fanatics is the biggest threat to the world's future.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 08:48 PM
It seems the province of Anbar in Iraq is about to be taken over. In fact they have asked for American troops!

This is a strange situation and very lucid but its clear that the Obama and that swine in Turkey are playing some kind of game of death with innocent civilians.

These leaders are mass murderers and have little morality or ethics and just are doing the bidding of some sinister behind the scenes devils.

The fact is that Turkey wants to fight ISIS and Syria at the same time! His policies are aligned with the neocon crazies led now by John McCain.

Here's where the WWIII scenario meets the Ukraine:

If Obama folds and goes for the attack Syria AND ISIS plan we will be near a world war since Russia and Iran won’t stand by and let Syria get attacked by this coalition, what Turkey and the neocons want.

This is a serious situation that is as bad as it seems for the world and the poor people in the Mideast who are victims of these EVIL leaders.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 08:49 PM
a reply to: Murgatroid

The human sacrifices are the civilians in these countries.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 08:53 PM
a reply to: victor7

I agree that ISIS is evil and paramount to be dealt with but the Ukraine is a part of the chess pieces that these wicked Manchurian candidates, the leaders of these countries, are playing with.

edit on 13-10-2014 by Willtell because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:29 PM
a reply to: Willtell

As to what goes behind the closed doors in WH, Pentagon etc. is anybody's guess. Internet is full of various angles to any major events. We can only rely on popular news and forums and go on with another day hoping for peace in the world.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:46 PM
a reply to: victor7

I agree but the point is that we have to upgrade our intuition, imagination and wisdom.

…and information. The truth is out there.

The absurdity of what they are doing means something in terms of the scam they are running.

The idea that Obama doesn’t want to send ground troops in when they are near that airport is instructive and frightening.

Are these savages thinking about using those Americans for sacrificial lambs?
A 911 on the battle field?

Can Obama be this stupid?

If they get to that airport and the Americans are trapped, then what?

edit on 13-10-2014 by Willtell because: (no reason given)

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