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Gazrok...I'm still confused on this one as I musta missed something...where is anyone trying to push it on others?
Originally posted by LadyV
Leather is the by product of our food.
..fur is the killing of an animals for no reason other than to take it's skin. [/quoet]
But minks just aren't very tastey.
Not to be too much of a jerk, but notice how the pics above of the little cute fox and the baby seal gettign clubed are of cute animals? Its like that dennis leary bit, people only want ot save cute animals. "Save the dolphins, eat dolphin free tuna? Eff the dolphins what about the god damned tuna!"
Now, granted, thats a joke, just like the biker leather bit, but it does bring up a valid point. Is the problem phyiscal suffering, or the suffering of something one sympathizes with? If chinchillas and minks were also processed as food, would it make wearing their furs okay? For some yes, for others no.
What the heck do they do with the skinned chinchillas and minks and what not? They just throw it out? Wouldn't it be in the corporation's interest to sell it for like animal food and other products?
where is anyone trying to push it on others
Well, by saying that the truly needy are the only ones that have an exucse, or that one needs an excuse to wear it, one is in effect trying to get someone to behave a certain way. Irregardless, anyone buying fur and leather products probably should think about what was involved in order for it to be gotten, but they're hardly horrible people if they say 'screw those minks'. And obviously the animals shouldn't be brutalized and there should be humane killing of them. But lets face it, animals is one thing, PETA is pushy about it and genuinely does seem to want to force people to think and act their way.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
PETA is a bunch of maniacs. I don't own any fur articles, but what's the big deal. I wear leather shoes, leather jackets, cars have leather interiors. Leather is in. What's the difference?
Originally posted by lost1
< sarcasm>Wow ANOK! Im glad I read the FAQ on PETA's website.
Originally posted by engineer
Man has been wearing fur ever since we started walking upright.
I'm sorry I missed the giveaway, I would have gone down and got a warm coat. It gets cold here in Seattle in the winter, and fur keeps you warm better than anything else invented by man or nature.
Anyone else who thinks that real furs should be no more, better not own a pet. Because by owning a pet, you are enslaving that animal. Right there proves that you dont care about ethical treatment for animals.
I never said anything about not showing ethical treatment towards animals
Even if its for sport and you dont use the meat for food, you are still keeping the balance of nature. You are thinning out thier numbers. If there are too many of a particular animal in the area, there can be a scarcity of food adn they die.
Well, no matter what statement it makes, I'm glad to see the poor getting something to help keep them warm. I too disagree with killing an animal for its fur alone. I can undersatnd using cow hide for leather because we eat the meat and thats the primary reason although I disagree with inhuman methods for killing them.
No animal should live in a cage. Period. It is in that way I agree with LadyV. Outlaw the caging of animals
Originally posted by ANOK
Samhain if you really want answers to your ...er questions then pls take the time to read all of this;
Before you post a bunch of stoopid excuses for diabolicle behaviour pls get yer facts straight. If not then pls feel free to remaine ignorant.