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I have been on both sides of the fence, as far as Christianity goes.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: intrptr
Many atheists acknowledge the spiritual, but still don't believe in a "God". I don't see how the two have a mutually exclusive relationship. I believe in reincarnation, but not in a "supreme being" that created the universe.
For me the difference is life. The being that created DNA a seed, an egg and the womb is definitely "supreme". But not like people that go to church believe in it. I agree with you in that regard.
Nor reincarnation. Those are ancestral memories, imo.
originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: TzarChasm
Personally I believe in many spiritual/religious concepts. However, I don't believe in the mainstream Christian stuff. So, I'd say I identify loosely as a Christian because I feel the Bible is one of the sources of great philosophical teachings such as charity, love, honor and how to look at one another with admiration and respect.
However, like many other books, it features violence, theft, incest, etc.
Also have to add, when I think God bless you I don't think of a jealous God who would force someone to worship, because I think God doesn't mind if people don't believe, and whatever God is, most likely accepts everybody. And allows free will because anything else would be unfair and restrictive.
I do feel that God perceives somehow when we do things considered evil but I cannot say whether or not said God has any feelings/judgements against it. Like the afterlife, I feel there's a very good afterlife for all, and possibly a place where the soul is cleansed, don't know if pain would be on God's menu for that though
An Atheist does not worship a god or God. Clearly, this verse is showing a person that believes in other gods, yet not for our day and age. Idol worship carried the penalty of capital punishment in Israel. You must be born again. Baptism is rebirth, or entering the water again.
The other aspect of this is the failing of Yahweh, or the Son of God that paid the price for this error. When Jesus was incarnated (Son of God), he was the one that formed Adam (Yahweh). As I have sown in previous threads, his lack of Love for humanity came from self-righteousness. This is evident by the law itself as you point out. The Redeemer paid the price for this.
Faith removes the need for the guardian. Faith in the true God removes the penalty of the requirement for not keeping our oath to God.
originally posted by: AlephBet
originally posted by: Grimpachi
Back when I was a teen I followed Grateful Dead around one summer I saw and heard a lot of things even had some full on conversations otherworldly's. It all seemed real then as well but I knew better.
Point is personal experience is not evidence of reality. Just imagine if it was.
Observation of the image (created reality) is necessary for the final reflecting point of our education here. When we look back, our own reality here is the image we use to see the true reality clearly. You imagine because you are imaging first. Look in a mirror or picture of yourself. You see you, but know that the 'I' inside you is not that image. God said we are created in an image. What you see of yourself in this reality is only the residual image of your true higher self. Facing away from God now means you are not a child learning. Facing God now makes you a child. Above, where you really are now, is the Angel either facing toward or away from God. This is why the letters and words say to face East (up).
10 “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.
I have an in depth thread here: Entanglment to the Angel Above - Child or Son or Neither
originally posted by: AlephBet
DNA represent letters making Proteins. They form in root codons, just like language. Links of letters are Words (proteins). The human body is a book.
Aleph Bet is Father in Hebrew (Letters). Aleph is Strong and Bet is House (Strong Nuclear Force). Neutrons and Protons (Strong Force) follow the laws of invariant symmetry and do not change (same yesterday, today and tomorrow).
Aleph Mem is Mother, or Strong Water (mem). She is the weak force (female) and allows for the symmetry breaking, or birth of the elements / Son of God. Letters of DNA must have a catalyst. Electrons do not follow invariant symmetry.
Bet (House) Nun (Seed) is Ben, or the Son. The House of Seed carries the house forward in time. Christ was called the Word, or what is produced by programmed letters in water / Matter / Elements.
The definition of a hologram is particles embedded with information in an image (image of God) with light shined on them to reveal the form. Light cannot be seen.
Here is your proof:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.
-Witness One - DNA
-Witness Two - Nature of Physics Parallel to Trinity
-Witness Three - Language mirrors it all, down to the definition of each letter
-Witness Four - Word is information and physicists now realize they need a degree in information science to know how the hologram of reality works.
-Witness Five - History in prophecy
-Witness Six - Evolution cannot occur apart from Involution, or the rolloing of matter in time. Look up the world Volution. Involution is baptism, so that what is immersed in water can rise to new life (evolution). Evolution is a result and not a cause. Programming is the cause of words.
-Witness Seven - Orthogonal Linear Transformation of Invariance is Translational Symmetry from higher dimensions. Collapsing wave function cannot occur from lower dimensions up, but upper down. Consciousness is in the higher dimensions above probability (restriction of law causing unity with multiplicity) and law governs all dimensions below. We have free will. If lower dimensions are governed, and consciousness arises from lower dimensions, then no free will. We would simply abide in invariance. Since symmetry breaks from the weak nuclear force, the electron is free. Otherwise, we would still be in a high state of order with low entropy.
Your proof and it denies ignorance.
Wisdom is proven right by her children. If you are not hers, then you are not a child of God. The gift is still available. See my threads to see how.
Best proof of all. God's will is to given and for us to receive. Thieves take. He demonstrates this by His nature (Nature!).
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
Your witness. Invariant Symmetry of the Strong Nuclear Force. It is invariant. You are translational. This is a proof, already provided by science.
I was just saying that your comment on personal experience is not evidence.
I then stated that the image we experience now is a created illusion. The real world to come is already in existence. This image (experience) is a reflecting point for the next.
This reality is real to us. Evidence of a higher power is veiled by this image.
Personal experience now provides the evidence later.
Faith eventually becomes fact.
originally posted by: AlephBet
originally posted by: TzarChasm
it is when you keeps you from communicating effectively.
Oddly enough, I get what you is saying now.
The letter "v" (vau) was later changed into a Yiddish "w" (waw) sound and YaHweH became the more popular guess name of scholars. Hebrew alphabet: The Hebrew letter "I" (Iod) underwent a change in pronunciation with German Yiddish influence. It is now known as the "yod or yud." There is no letter "y" in the ancient Hebrew language. The "Y" sound attributed to this letter was borrowed by Jews from the German language.
The shape of the letter "I" or "yod" was derived from the Egyptian cobra which stood for the soft "g" and our letter "j" sound as in "jelly." Obviously if the letter J descends in Hebrew as the Iod and its sound in the form of the cobra was the soft "g" sound, the pronunciation of the name Jesus cannot be claimed to be a modern corruption.
It has been claimed that the name of Jesus is derived from the name Joshua and or Jehoshua. These are names created in the Babylonian Aramaic language. It is impossible that Jesus would have an earthly name, and named after Joshua. His name came from heaven and not from a Babylonian language. It is wrong for scholars to tell people that Babylonian Aramaic is Hebrew and that the true Hebrew name of Jesus is not Jesus but Joshua.
When it is properly understood that "Je" is the abbreviation of "YEH" or "JEH" the sacred name of God at the burning bush, and that "Uses or Usus" (these are the same), we have in the name of Jesus a very powerful new identity as the "GOD WHO SAVES BY WATER." So the name of Jesus in a shortened meaning would be simply Saviour! In the very name of Jesus we have the authority of our New Testament water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38).
And then EHYEH is a revelation of the Covenant God. So that these point to the fullness of the revelation of the GREAT name of Yehshas or Jesus as Creator God, the Blessing God, the Covenant God, and lastly the Saving God. Hence we have here that as the tabernacle and all the symbols and rituals of the Old Testament were TYPES and SHADOWS to be fulfilled and brought to their climax and completion with Christ and the New Testament Church WITH THE REAL, so all the temporary and substitute names and titles of God were only types and shadows of the REAL name of God revealed in Jesus Christ. So that the name of Jesus or Yehshas is not derived from any name of God, but visa versa, they were all derived from and point to Jesus Christ from which they all have their type.www.abovetopsecret.com...
The Egyptian language was made up of sounds. Partly of vowels and consonants, however; hieroglyphs constantly ignored and left out vowels. How a word sounds in hieroglyphics is more important than how it is spelled. - See more attraveltoeat.com...