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originally posted by: RedParrotHead
a reply to: FlySolo
I agree with this statement 100%, once I turned about 30 I started chatting up the officers whenever I got pulled over and haven't gotten a ticket since. One cop got me for speeding in a school zone, he asked where I was headed I told him I was late getting to my nephews football game he ran me through the computer and said "You haven't got a ticket in almost 20 years, I'm not gonna break your streak" and sent me on my way.
Also I wonder about what happens in the HQ. They're told to stop people at a check point for whatever reason...maybe there have been a lot of drunk driving deaths...and every ATS-type lawyer gives them a 20 minute constitutional rights lesson while traffic is backing up. What is he to do? Wave everyone through and tell his superior officer that "yeah, I could've prevented that drunk driving accident down the road but I had no right to stop the guy." No way that would fly.
At the same time as a cop you should expect not everyone to comply with your requests and know how to act like a non-psychotic. The answer IMO is more training for cops...ongoing training. Cop training, not military training. This particular cop needs some sort of disciplinarian action against him for sure. And be evaluated for anger issues.
My wife is a teacher and has to take classes all the time to keep being a teacher. Does anyone know if police have to keep their skills and knowledge of the law fresh?
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
Yeah well in a perfect world but the guys human. Could have been tired, hungry, had a fight with his wife who knows. If we could all act the way we're supposed to all the time we wouldn't even need police. Anyway he's not robocop he's a human. a reply to: jhn7537
originally posted by: WilsonWilson
a reply to: FlySolo
Your argument doesnt make sense otherwise you're saying life is not a right but a privilege, because the state can take it away.
Driving is a Privilege, Not a Right
Driving is not a constitutional right. You get your drivers license based on the skills you have and the rules you agree to follow. After you get your driving license you must continue to demonstrate your ability to drive safely on the road. If you fail to demonstrate this ability, you will be issued traffic tickets, or even have your license suspended or revoked. No one has more right to the road than anyone else. If you're going to drive, you owe it to the other drivers and yourself to operate the vehicle in a safe manner.
originally posted by: justaquicknote88
a reply to: milkyway12
Hey there buddy. Couldn't help but reply to your post. TRAVELING IS NOT A PRIVILEGE. All free men and women have a right to travel on their own roads in their own vehicles. This is called TRAVELING. We have a right to travel in and out of states freely without prevention by our servants. This is a Constitutionally guaranteed right. Being forced to carry a driver's license is a violation of that law. The entire purpose of the law is to prevent states from taxing (i.e. requiring a driver's license) individuals to travel. It is not only the right, but the duty of free men and women to stand against unconstitutional laws.
originally posted by: mal1970
originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: jhn7537
What's wrong with just getting your id ready, show it to them and be on your way? If they asked him to step out and starting making a fuss about nothing then perhaps he would have a point.
And THIS right here is exactly why we're at where we are today. It's called incrementalism. Next year it won't be just showing ID at a checkpoint. It'll be getting out of your car & getting frisked while another officer searches your car. 5 years from now it'll be supplying DNA via mouth swap. It will never stop. It will only get worse until we say NO.
What is he to do? Wave everyone through and tell his superior officer that "yeah, I could've prevented that drunk driving accident down the road but I had no right to stop the guy." No way that would fly.
A citizen operating a motor vehicle is not required by law to provide a drivers license or registration IF the stop is not initiated by a violation.
If you are stopped and questioned while driving, you must show your driver’s license as well as your vehicle registration and insurance. If you do not produce these documents, you can be charged with offences under the Highway Traffic Act.
The police can stop cars at any time to determine if a driver has consumed alcohol or drugs, to see whether a car is mechanically fit, to check whether a driver has a valid licence, or to make sure a driver has insurance. The police may also stop your car if they suspect that you have committed a driving offence.
If the police ask to see your driver’s licence, car registration and insurance, you are required by law to produce these documents. If any of these documents are in the glove compartment, tell the officer that you are reaching for the document before doing so.
originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: FlySolo
No that's the RIGHT thing to do. I know you're from Canada so you don't understand what freedom is about, but here we are supposed to have the freedom from unreasonable search and seizure and just rolling over when those searches and seizures occur is NOT the right thing to do.
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: FlySolo
Humans are not born with pens sticking out of an appendage either. I suppose that you view the written word as a privilege. Bye bye First Amendment.
No weapons in my hands when I popped out of my mommy.... so much for the Second Amendment.
I was not born owning a house.... So the government can quarter soldiers in one if I buy one later.