what is with disgusting 'pop stars'

originally posted by: FlyersFan
I don't understand why sloppy fat butts are something that people want.
I mean ... no class and gross.
The trashiest sloppy fat butt ... Kim Kardashian.
And yes, the niki minaj anaconda crap was really bad.
These people prove that the movie Idiocracy is unfolding before us in real life.

I'm a straight female, so this wasn't for the wrong reasons, but I had to check her out, and she has the kind of curves many of us females get blessed or cursed with from birth, and run in our families. So thank Goodness that not all men like boyish butts, eh. And checked her out in bikini's and found out, she's in good shape, not twiggy not toned like a weight builder, but has a great build. When I was younger before health problems, was toned and in good shape too, used to marriage proposals walking down the street.

Now that aside, the whole concept of "ideal build", pushed on people by hollywood, usually its big top small bottom, which is rather rare for females, but some are like that during their adolescent years, is all garbage.

People aren't parts, and their parts aren't "sloppy", they're not objects and what they're given is beautiful. Many different shapes and sizes. Some of the willowy twiggy ones, if their ribs aren't all showing and they're not too thin are pretty too. Everyone looks better 10 lbs over than 10 lbs under however.

Anyway, shows like the ones in the OP are partly the reason for all this focus on objectified parts. As an artist who likes diversity and the human condition, its rather shallow and alarming. Also reading a thread somewhere else online that was so crude about what husbands thought wives were all about.

I said its about romance and true love, and all that's beautiful and getting mind out of lower gutters, because no one would even want to talk to someone, have them in their homes if they knew their minds dwelt on those images and words and things.

Nor is this a religious push for extreme modesty. Grew up in a family that skinny dipped, its not about fake modesty, its about sexualizing everything like our culture does and keeping people in lower mind.

a reply to: Unity_99

why get damn near naked and greased up to go ass to ass with another curvy woman?

its probably to distract from the fact that their music sucks

a reply to: CardiffGiant

Well thats one way to sell a bad product, but I think today its not really about selling the product, its because the world is run/mismanaged by dark hats who are striving to keep humanity back, from not graduating, they want to recycle slaves and are actually jealous of those moving up from this plane. And lower mind is always pushed at people, sex, violence, war, inequality, its the programming.

I have to add, back on the larger butt side of things, and why they seem to push twiggy types. Men possibly have had this programmed in so this isn't being said about the average guy who now seems to like a barby doll build, tiny hips and medium to fuller tops, but most of the women who've discussed the media images is that they believe its all run by the gay illuminati group that are promoting boys, builds like boys, for the most part. Perhaps it covers the whole audience that way, their choice of stars draws the straight and even the not straight.

I like beautiful half naked girls as much as the next red blooded male, but thats for swimsuit/mens magazines not for music videos.

Theres looking sexy and then theres boarder line soft porn. I dislike it, the songs usually arnt even about what the video shows any more. Nikki's star ship music video had her in a skimpy swim suit rolling around on a beach, yeah very starship-ish *rolls eyes*.

The same could be said for the beiber boy, prancing around with no shirt on, hes only just 20 for gods sake!

This is why the heavily pushed pop music has these whores doing this while people who make good music refuse to do that stuff because they make music for the music not the glamour and money and sex. They get more than most anyway, theresi no need to whore yourself out and sing some utter pop crap some loney song writer wrote in his basement and sold for 5 grand.

a reply to: Unity_99

and for me its not about the ladies figure..
im talking about their actions

If one needs to sell sex in their music videos or on stage, perhaps they should consider a different career.

Remember old cheesy music in porn videos? Brown-chicken-brown-cow?

That's what I see in these new pop music videos. Softcore porn and lame music.

Yeah, sex sells, and I suppose if you can't target younger audiences with the real deal - get them early with this garbage. Like cigarettes used to.

a reply to: CardiffGiant

Yes, but that comment was brought up, and so its still a part of the deal they're casting on people. One can even call all their media, spellcasting, because that is exactly what they're doing. Lower mind, keeping things in the gutter even expectations in relationships, AND, objectifying people, with unnatural standards of atypical models for humanity put forward.

Its the same package, and its not the bands selling this, this comes from on high. They don't get their public appearance without the package from on high, because this is called coding the matrix, on every level. Its all combined.

a reply to: CardiffGiant
Well, that's what happens when you have an oppressed, repressed, society that has made sex and the human body dirty. You get people who consistently try and push the envelope. If there was no market for a sexually repressed society, there would be no reason to make these videos, because nobody would be upset or outraged at them.

It used to be that if a woman showed off her ankles or legs in public, it was scandalous. Now nobody gives it a second thought. Why? Because theirs nothing to see. It isn't dirty any more. There's no guilty pleasure in it. As long as sex and the human body are dirty, this will be an issue in our society. Take away the shock, and you take away the need for videos like this.

Everything that uses sex to sell it, is a product that wouldn't be good enough without the sex. When I'll make music videos, ass shaking whores is the last thing I would want. My music is good enough to not need this type of publicity.

I'm happy you mentioned Shirley Manson in the OP. Now that's what I call sexy.
She's pretty, she's got class, she writes great lyrics, the sings a in a sexy way but she never needed to show more skin than needed to make her point. That's a real woman.

The worthless excuses for women role models we have today are destroying the very essence of what a real woman should be like and...

That's EXACTLY what they want.

The whole music industry has been hijacked with mind control to destroy our values and create a decadent society.

originally posted by: kalunom
if you can't target younger audiences with the real deal - get them early with this garbage. Like cigarettes used to.

great post man.
spot on

this is the stuff that gets rotation in my house.

shirley manson and marissa paternoster....

hell yeah

What's really disgusting is that both J-Lo and Nikki Manaj are judges on prime time "family - oriented" talent shows.

You know your country has gone to crap when someone who raps about how clean her coochy is gets paid a ton of money to critique people who actually have talent.

Maybe we should listen to things that are less body oriented.

Sia - Breathe me


Ed Sheeran - One


Lorde - Tennis Court


The xx - Angels


MACKLEMORE


OneRepublic - Love Runs Out


Sam Smith - Stay With Me

a reply to: CardiffGiant

This should be considered as the theme music for ATS from my point of view. . Love Garbage.
I Think I'm Paranoid- Garbage

originally posted by: Bone75
What's really disgusting is that both J-Lo and Nikki Manaj are judges on prime time "family - oriented" talent shows.

You know your country has gone to crap when someone who raps about how clean her coochy is gets paid a ton of money to critique people who actually have talent.

wow.
i never even thought of that.
that is pretty terrible.

holy poop nuggets

Musicians are often military children, black op children. This thread and what I was hinting at just jogged a memory here in Canada, in the 80's of a band that did all the circuits and talking to them my friend discovered his father was security at the White House during a certain number of years.

This lower mind, primitive mind set. It blows real connections between people out of the water. Mature ideas of friendship, taking turns in a relationship, to develop talents and interests, to be understood, loved, respected for our mind, appreciated, to be romantic friends. Well this is the way to throw the youth off into shallow and heart breaking, objectified existence. This entire concept affects family, happiness, your children, awareness, friendship, kindness, searching for inner meaning and even economics. Its one of their main puzzle pieces along with religion versus inner spiritual growth.

I am bringing up how this isn't a morality issue, ie a religious morality issue, where you just but boxes and sacks over people. We need to be able to grow up, have a sense of appreciation for beauty and form, without sexualizing people, saving that for intimate love.

I friggin LOVE pop music....LOVE IT! HEAR ME?!?!

lol seriously though I love it

Here is the woman I grew up with





jeebus was she not the best thing ever?

Very talented, yet worked in the oft understated pop market. She was awesome...and I met her once...I mean

ok I am done...seriously though...the above videos are pop music for me

a reply to: KyoZero

i hate it and i think it sucks.
that said, if you think it is awesome and the best ever then it is.

its all subjective