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No I said there is free will. There is always free will. I told you - you can choose to go against God's Law, His wish which is to let your life ends as He wills.
When you were a child with parents, didn't they make the rules? How many times did those rules stop you from actually breaking them? If you still were able to break your parents rules, then those rules did not take away your free will. They simply imposed consequences on certain choices you made.
God lets you choose, but He can still impose consequences on you for making certain choices.
It's no different than what your parents do ... or what the government does.
Despite the rules or the laws governing us, we are still free to act as we choose although the consequences imposed for making a choice and taking an action may be something we are not willing to risk.
Don't tell me that our society is any less unknowable or capricious than God.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: DarknStormy
If God created humans from dust, in his image, how can their failure not be a reflection on God,(?) especially considering God is, supposedly, all knowing, and would have known of their failure before their creation.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: DarknStormy
If God created humans from dust, in his image, how can their failure not be a reflection on God,(?) especially considering God is, supposedly, all knowing, and would have known of their failure before their creation.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: DarknStormy
So, obviously, you subscribe to the God of the Old Testament who, supposedly, gave Moses the 10 Commandments, among which is the command, Thou Shall Not Kill. But then God commands the Hebrews to stone their own disobedient children.
Is stoning a disobedient child becoming to the image of god?
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: DarknStormy
The only reason those teaching are in the New Testament, which I don't subscribe to either, is because Jesus quotes the Commandments.
Just because something is supported in the Bible, that doesn't make it moral. Slavery is an example.