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originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: sacgamer25
Romans 2
5 But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”[a] 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. 9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; 10 but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.
11 For God does not show favoritism.
Or Acts 5?
35 Then he addressed the Sanhedrin: “Men of Israel, consider carefully what you intend to do to these men. 36 Some time ago Theudas appeared, claiming to be somebody, and about four hundred men rallied to him. He was killed, all his followers were dispersed, and it all came to nothing. 37 After him, Judas the Galilean appeared in the days of the census and led a band of people in revolt. He too was killed, and all his followers were scattered. 38 Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go!
For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. 39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”
2 Timothy
ALL SCRIPTURE IS INSPIRED BY GOD and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
(The wives of the enlightened men will be the most beautiful according to the standard set by the Holy Spirit)
In Islam, the ḥūr or ḥūrīyah[note 1] (Arabic: حورية) are commonly translated as "(splendid)[1] companions of equal age (well-matched)",[2] "lovely eyed",[3] of "modest gaze",[4] "pure beings" or "companions pure" of paradise, denoting humans and jinn who enter Jannah (paradise) after being recreated anew in the hereafter.[5] Islam also has a strong mystical tradition which places these heavenly delights in the context of the ecstatic awareness of God.[6]
Quranic description[edit]
The houri have variously been described as being "restraining their glances (chaste)",[7][8] "modest gaze",[4] "wide and beautiful/lovely eyes",[3][7][9] "like pearls",[3] "spouse",[10] "companions of equal age",[2] "splendid",[1] "voluptuous",[11] and much more besides.
Shia scholar description[edit]
Still all in accordance with the Quran, the basic fact of the description of this beauty is how good deeds take the ideal order and proportion to physical forms, how they won't fade away over time, and how they accompany their performers.[12] This description is widely used in Sufism and mysticism.[13]
European usage[edit]
The word "houri" has entered into several European languages (French - 1654, English – 1737) with a meaning of a "voluptuous, beautiful, alluring woman".[25][26]
"Houri" and "whore"[edit]
The English word "whore" (German Hure, Danish hore, Swedish hora, Dutch hoer, Proto-Germanic *hōrōn, masculine form Gothic hors, Proto-Germanic *hōraz) is thought to stem from the Proto-Indo-European verb root *keh₂- "to love" (with an the original meaning of "lover") and is not etymologically related to the Arabic (Semitic and thus non-Indo-European) word houri.[27][28]
Quran[edit]
The houri are mentioned in several places in the Quran, although in plural no specifics are given as to the number of houries available. Likewise it does not appear from the Quran that they are only women; both sexes are mentioned (although their descriptive qualities are feminine, as alluded to, by the hadiths). They are made available to all believers, not just martyrs.
Thus shall it be. And We shall pairA them with companions pure, most beautiful of eye.
—Quran, sura 44 (Ad-Dukhan), ayah 54[29]
[There the blest will live with their] companions pure and modest, in pavilions [splendid]
—Quran, sura 55, (Ar-Rahman), ayah 72[30]
reclining on couches [of happiness] ranged in rows!" And [in that paradise] We shall mate them with companions pure, most beautiful of eye
—Quran, sura 52 (At-Tur), ayah 20[31]
The idea of 72 virgins in Islam refers to an aspect of paradise. In a collection by Abu `Isa Muhammad ibn `Isa at-Tirmidhi in his Jami` at-Tirmidhi[56] and also quoted by Ibn Kathir in his Tafsir ibn Kathir of sura 55[57] it is stated:
It was mentioned by Daraj Ibn Abi Hatim, that Abu al-Haytham 'Adullah Ibn Wahb narrated from Abu Sa'id al-Khudhri, who heard Muhammad saying, 'The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy-two houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a.[58]
However, regarding the above statement Hafiz Salahuddin Yusuf has said: "The narration, which claims that everyone would have seventy-two wives has a weak chain of narrators."[40] There is also a theory that the promise of 72 virgins is a mistranslation from "72 angels".[59]
originally posted by: babloyi
I am always a bit wary about translations that offer "explanations" (as yours seem to in brackets), but your main point is of course correct: The Quran makes no mention of virgins (72 or otherwise) as a reward in heaven.
originally posted by: dollukka
Men get multiple female servants and Female gets multiple male servants. Where these servants come from , They are created just for the purpose and they are lustrous, youths of perpetual freshness and females are a perfect creation of virginal purity. And there is a pecking order in Heaven, some get to see Allah.
Everyone will get their perfect mates and can marry them and if you were married on Earth in Heaven your spouse will be invisible to you. A guiltless sex is a reward in Muslim Heaven. You can eat wonderful delicious foods and produce no waste.
Makes you think... What is the point and why there is a need of sexual activity in Heaven.
72 Virgins are not mentioned, but 80 000 servants and 72 wives.
"The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from Damascus to Yemen"
Muslims are even allowed alcohol in their Paradise, but they are enjoined not to partake here on Earth.