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originally posted by: sayzaar
I find it odd that the police would search the home of someone accused of committing a crime some thirty odd years ago. What on earth were they searching FOR ? a pair of moldy rotting pants from the victim ?
Just as odd is how the media knew about the search before it even happened. It could only be that the police themselves tipped off the media. But why would they do that ? All a part of the filthy plan i think.
I thought Sir Cliff had already come out as gay ?
If he attended the guest house parties at the same times as other kown offenders were having sex with children then even if he was not involved he would have known what was going on.
Again, a link between a possible sex offender and the royal family. There is a very real pattern emerging.
To the poster who said Nick Ross has publicly stated that he wants to be able to watch child porn. How do you know this ? Is there video evidence of him saying it ? Seems very odd indeed.
“We’re all inquisitive,” he said. “I had never seen, until I started working on Crimewatch, child pornography.
“I think if someone came to me and said: 'Would you like to see what all the fuss is about?’, I’m sorry, I probably would say yes.”
Ross referred to a study in which internet users clicked on links to extreme pornography even if they had not searched for it.
He said: “Does this tell us that we’re all awful? I think not.”
originally posted by: skitzspiricy...he's never officially come out. Him coming out would ruin the clean, pure, celibate image he's built up throughout his entire career. Him coming out would also lose him all of his most devout fans.
There is nothing in the Bible specifically about women wearing mens clothing
originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
originally posted by: Nochzwei
originally posted by: Whereismypassword
He's religious and I expect many gay Christians like him are in the same situation
Wouldn't surprise me if his manager has said "cliff,if you come out as gay your fan base will crumble"
Being gay is an abomination in God's eyes. Even a man wearing woman's attire is an abomination in God's eyes
I wonder where god draws the line on that - does he count flares and bell bottoms and culottes?
What about women wearing men's clothing? Good grief, we are all damned.
Describe that "kind of relationship".
So now you're defending the disgusting Jonathan King and advocating sex with minors?
originally posted by: skitzspiricy
I thought Sir Cliff had already come out as gay ?
No, he's never officially come out. Him coming out would ruin the clean, pure, celibate image he's built up throughout his entire career. Him coming out would also lose him all of his most devout fans.
originally posted by: skitzspiricy
a reply to: BasementWarriorKryptonite
I was referring to his most devout Evangelical Christian fanbase.
originally posted by: Nochzwei
There is nothing in the Bible specifically about women wearing mens clothing
originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
originally posted by: Nochzwei
originally posted by: Whereismypassword
He's religious and I expect many gay Christians like him are in the same situation
Wouldn't surprise me if his manager has said "cliff,if you come out as gay your fan base will crumble"
Being gay is an abomination in God's eyes. Even a man wearing woman's attire is an abomination in God's eyes
I wonder where god draws the line on that - does he count flares and bell bottoms and culottes?
What about women wearing men's clothing? Good grief, we are all damned.
originally posted by: Whereismypassword
Age of consent is 16 in the uk but I'm sure the age was higher for gay sexual relationship in the 60's or early 70's and lowered to 16
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: gort51
Jonathan King was notorious in the industry back in the day. People used to be warned not to go up to his flat or get caught alone in the studio with him. But you know, I find it very hard to get all worked up about queer men who like teenage boys. I mean, what do teenage boys like? Much of the time, the answer is 'sex'. And if someone wants badly enough to be a star that they will sleep with a record producer to attain that goal, surely that's a private matter between the parties concerned?
While on the subject of pop music and rent-boys, have you ever reflected on the meaning of the lyrics of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road?
I'm not a present for your friends to open;
This boy's too young to be singing the blues.
Amazing what you miss if you don't pay attention.
originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: blupblup
You mean the DI megathread i assume.... it was a stunning read as it developed and a remarkable collaborative piece of detective work and info sharing. I'm often a cynic and sceptic at heart but so much there seemed really well evidenced and the veracity of much of it is being demonstrated before our eyes.
I cant remember if i read it in that thread or elsewhere, but i recall that CR was one of the last people JD visited before her death - it's been speculated that she was seeking some advice on her investigations into establishment paedophilia as parts of CR's circle were implicated.
I really would not be surprised if CR turned out to have been involved in some petty dark stuff. Still miffed about Rolf though, pah.
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: CJCrawley
Describe that "kind of relationship".
I thought you'd already done that.
So now you're defending the disgusting Jonathan King and advocating sex with minors?
originally posted by: stumason
I don't believe it was lowered until very recently, during Blair's tenure at the top. I may be wrong, but I do remember discussion about it when I was about 17-18 years old, so that would make it around 2000