Commie Fag? Uh, Actually I am a Straight Capitalist! Well I have read a LOT of Stupid stuff on the Internet - usually by Illiterates Ranting & Raving about an "NWO" - then Blaming it on others - Slandering Everyone under the Sun! I have noticed a Pattern from these posts - that they seem to emanate from Right-Wing Conservative (i.e. Racist, HomoPhobic , Zionist, Nazi) Fascist Fundamentalists - who as you like to say
"Thump the Bible" - even though in Reality they are unable to READ it Properly! If this is not the case, please Enlighten me!

Now let me ask you a question - do YOU know why we Invaded Iraq & please don't say
"Weapons of Mass Destruction" or I might Die LAUGHING!!! It looks like these LUNATICS are the ones CAUSING this NWO that they can't stop talking about as they blame it on the "Satanist Illuminati"! Pathetic!

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Good Points Patriot. The differences between conservatism and neo-conservative are many. Many don't realize this. Many people believe George W. Bush speaks for conservatism when in fact he doesn't.

Also, the term right-wing can apply to a broad range of ideologies--from authoritarian/facist/neo-Nazi ideologies to isolationist/protectionist ideologies to limited government/states' right ideologies to neo-conservative/interventionist/globalist ideologies. Although I will argue that neo-conservatism has much more in common with the left of yesterday. An important fact to recognize that many of our interventions abroad have been initiated at the behest of democratic presidents (WW1, Vietnam, Korean War, Somalia, Haiti, the Balkans, etc). Also, Bush's ideology of spreading democracy is very similar to that of Woodrow Wilson's. etc

what i dont understand is this:

read the bible. as soon as the earth gets created man screws up and gets evicted. Kane kills able ove jealousy. this puts the homocide rate for mankind @ 25% from the door. all throughout history war has been waged under different pretenses.

this is a conspiracy theory website. i have read man theories here and abroad about september 11th, many felt the government was behind that ordeal. wait, the government WAS behind pearl harbor, we know this to be fact now. was that administration in the "NWO"?.

take a look at human history, and find that power has always been pursued and exploited to an extreme degree. then maybe you will ponder the possibility that the world is just a screwed up place with corrupted people in power.

I completely agree jp420. Many Christians tend to make the mistake of blaming everything on Satan. "Don't open your heart to Satan, or he'll make ya evil." Yeah, right. Whatever. People need to take responsibility for their own actions. Can you imagine being judged on your works and saying, "It wasn't me! Satan made me do it!" In a bank heist, everyone goes to jail, not just the man with the plan.

Mankind has had the choice to do evil or good from the very beginning. Satan knows that we have that freewill and puts temptation in our way to turn us from God. And when I talk about Satan, I don't mean some dude with red skin, horns and a pitchfork. Satan is a spiritual entity and not part of this physical existence. Yet he is as much a part of God and the universe as we are. As I stated before, I believe Satan exists by design, not by accident. If you can flatly rule out his existence, you are probably stuck on the pitchfork and horns thing.

Quote: "People need to take Responsibility for their own Actions.

Mankind has had the Choice to do Evil or Good from the very beginning. Satan knows that we have that Free Will and puts Temptation in our way to turn us from God... Yet it is as much a part of God and the Universe as we are."

Wecomeinpeace - Congratulations! You got it!!! How does Enlightenment feel?

serpent,

correct me if im wrong, but did anybody ever say otherwise in this thread? i think everybody here knows they are responsible for their own actions - thanks for keeping us enlightened!

you're willing to admit that satan in some shape or form is a reality. i was confused because pages 1 & 2 paint a different picture. maybe im mistaken.

regardless, lets all agree:

"Satan, whatever his design is a reality & we humans have the choice to follow him - or not."

now, as for this unifying theory, it may not be 100% accurate - or even 10%, but it doesnt take an einstein to conclude that the root of all deceptions most likely branch out from the master of deception - no?

Even though I did not quote it - I agree with this:

" And when I talk about Satan, I don't mean some dude with red skin, horns and a pitchfork. Satan is a spiritual Entity and not part of this Physical Existence."

Although I wouldn't use the word "Spiritual" - I would probably use "Energy" & Negative Energy at that - the word Entity applies.

Satan is a negative or "evil" force that can take on any form. Satan is a spirit, some bible scholars say Satan rules the Earth. That would explain why we have so much pain in our world

Serpent, I'd like to make a few points here.

The old addage that "religion is for weak minded people" is pretty ridiculous if you ask me. First of all, you're grouping everyone who is religious into one sentence, without offering a shred of proof that any of them are in fact incorrect in their beliefs. Why? Because you cannot. Further, I am a very well educated Christian, and the more I learn, the more I believe.

Nobody in this thread has tried to convert you, so why do you hit back at them with comments like that? If you have a problem with God, that's your problem, not anyone elses. So I suggest you quit attacking people for their religious beliefs.

With that being said, I must say that this is one of the best threads (at least the first post) I've seen on ATS. I cannot agree more with what you posted, its bang on.

The whole concept of "increasing enlightenment" as you go up the pyramid falls exactly into what you're saying here. Only Lucifer/Satan knows what the true plan is, and everyone below them are receiving varying degrees of deception in order to carry out the plan. The Bible clearly states that Satan is the ruler of this world. If you look around at Western society today, we've been so gradually taken away from Jesus/God that we've barely noticed it today. We've found "funny" names to insult people that still go to Church and believe in God, like Charly Church. We've got Sunday football ruling people's lives on a day they should be giving thanks. People have no time for their families or Church because they're working two jobs trying to make ends meet. Movies are getting raunchier, TV is getting raunchier, porn is commonplace, gay marriage (althogh I love gay people as any other) is now acceptable etc. etc. etc. Everything has been a gradual movement away from religion and the Church. Why? Why destroy Jesus' message to love one another, live in peace, and help your fellow man before helping yourself? What sense is there in that? Unless of course there is pure evil behind the master plan all along? Satan himself. The day people realize by putting your faith into Jesus you have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain. By not putting your faith in Jesus, you have everything to lose and nothing to gain. That's the message this world needs to hear, and it starts with just one person.

Finally, I'd like to make a point about the last chapter yet to be played out -Armageddon and the Antichrist. The NWO right now is making the last attempt at destablizing religion and turning man against man. Only when the world is so "fed up" against Christians, Jews, and Muslims will the NWO's final chapter come to play. The Antichrist will rise, offer his solution to form a one-world-religion, one-world government, and one-world-ruler (Maitreya), and everyone will accept it with open arms to put an end to all the "fighting", which of course was started by the NWO themselves.

This is not paranoia, this is not insanity, this is taking a step back and figuring out exactly what is going on. The Bible predicted it, the pieces are all in place, the only choice left is between you and Jesus.

God Bless...

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LogoWatch you might want to check out my thread about a one world government and the bible, i think you would like it seeings your theories seem to match it

Quote: "Further, I am a very well educated Christian and the more I learn, the more I believe."

Well - So am I! What makes you think I am not? I am in fact very "Spiritual" - if slightly less "Religious". The two are not quite synonymous in my view! I have nothing against that Bible! I DO have something against people who use the Bible as a POLITICAL PROP & are not even Interpreting it properly!

Quote: "Nobody in this thread has tried to convert you."

Convert me to what? Has it ever dawned on you that your form of Christianity is not the same as Original Christianity? You have the Authority to speak for all Christians?

Oh - boy here we go with the N.W.O. again! In actuality I have seen more Evidence of RELIGION Controlling people & making them do Horrible Murderous things (in the name of God) than this supposed "N.W.O." - which I can only equate to Corporate Power. In my view we all have to deal with the Church, State/Government & Corporation because they are not going away anytime soon!

Quote: "One-World-Ruler (Maitreya)"

Wow - you really need to lay off some of these Right-Wing Fundamentalist Web Sites - do you actually believe all of that Garbage?

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Ok guys,
lets try and keep this nice

Quote: "were in fact caused by the Luciferic Illuminati themselves."

Sorry I don't believe in "SATAN" the way that you do - when will you people start to take responsibility for your own actions? Perhaps it is YOU & your ilk (Fundamentalists) that are causing the Problems in the World & the so-called "Luciferic Illuminati" are the Good Guys trying to fix things! I don't believe in the "N.W.O" as you perceive it either! I DO believe in Order over Chaos! We have had "World Government" for a long time already & we still do!

I believe in a Free Market! I believe that EVERY DAY brings a "New World"!
I live in the now! Globalization has already taken place & this is a Good thing in my opinion - there is nothing that you did do or could do to stop it!

P.S. You are on the "World Wide Web"!


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You think the illuminati is a good thing?
man, your the first person i've ever heard who has said that. Really, you are. Feel proud

Originally posted by Seraphim_Serpente
Quote: "were in fact caused by the Luciferic Illuminati themselves."

Sorry I don't believe in "SATAN" the way that you do - when will you people start to take responsibility for your own actions? Perhaps it is YOU & your ilk (Fundamentalists) that are causing the Problems in the World & the so-called "Luciferic Illuminati" are the Good Guys trying to fix things! I don't believe in the "N.W.O" as you perceive it either! I DO believe in Order over Chaos! We have had "World Government" for a long time already & we still do!

I believe in a Free Market! I believe that EVERY DAY brings a "New World"!
I live in the now! Globalization has already taken place & this is a Good thing in my opinion - there is nothing that you did do or could do to stop it!

P.S. You are on the "World Wide Web"!


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If the NWO is our fate, so be it.

You're right, they most likely cannot be stopped. I myself will never hurt another person for anything, so all I can do is talk about it. They may eventually take all of our rights away and everything else, but they cannot take my soul from me, and I pray for all of those involved. Hopefully some of them come to their senses and find Christ, otherwise like Revelations says, they'll get what's coming to them at Armageddon.

As for you, I pray for you too my friend.