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Dr. Eric Pianka in 2006 advocating Ebola as population control

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posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 04:15 AM
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This is from 2006 but somehow it seems relevant for today. There was an ATS thread about it then but the link is now dead that points to the article. link to old ATS thread


The following is excerpted from "Meeting Doctor Doom" by Forrest Mims, Chairman of the Environmental Science Section of the Texas Academy of Science:




Something curious occurred a minute before Pianka began speaking. An official of the Academy approached a video camera operator at the front of the auditorium and engaged him in animated conversation. The camera operator did not look pleased as he pointed the lens of the big camera to the ceiling and slowly walked away.



He then showed solutions for reducing the world's population in the form of a slide depicting the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. War and famine would not do, he explained. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved.



With this, the questioning was over. Immediately almost every scientist, professor and college student present stood to their feet and vigorously applauded the man who had enthusiastically endorsed the elimination of 90 percent of the human population. Some even cheered.



Corresponding with Dr. Doom

Recently I exchanged a number of e-mails with Pianka. I pointed out to him that one might infer his death wish was really aimed at Africans, for Ebola is found only in Central Africa. He replied that Ebola does not discriminate, kills everyone and could spread to Europe and the the Americas by a single infected airplane passenger.
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posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 04:29 AM
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There might really be a section of the elite that are releasing bioweapons.

We just don't know.

Fulford says they've been trying for years, and can't do it.

It's harder to kill off humans than they think.

Maybe the "one vial of this stuff could wipe out the whole population." stories are a psy-op too.

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Be cautious, take extra Vit C, eat well, exercise, use Iodine, anti-bacterials, turmeric, whatever.

IF there was a pandemic, all these actions bias you towards health.

I bet the world death count from Ebola is lower than 150.

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The real pandemics are Cancer, Heart disease and Malaria.



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 04:39 AM
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Its taken 6months to kill 600 people on a continent of what nearly a billion?



Pretty crapy population control



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 04:43 AM
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Hmmm, scary stuff, reminds me of the Gerogia guidstones, the masonic/Zionist plans of population control with freaks like Prince Philip( In His Own Words: We Need To 'Cull' The Surplus Population), and also the new British TV series Utopia.

So we have masonic bigwigs and other satanic/occultist freaks who have lost any form of humanity who are unfortunately in positions of power to make this all come about, calling for a mass population reduction. On top of that we also have their brother in arms(maybe the same people considering their common interests, namely the love of Solomon and his temple, who they call a magi rather than a prophet) the Zionists wanting to perform genocide on Palestinians by wiping them off the map and doing everything in their power to enslave the majority of the population with their usury/inflation/over-taxation and getting countries like America to do their bidding(getting American soldiers to fight and die for their cause, e.g wipe as many muslims(the only ones brave enough to fight them) off the map as they can.

This is becoming quite the showdown



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 04:47 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
Its taken 6months to kill 600 people on a continent of what nearly a billion?



Pretty crapy population control


Hahaha. That's what Aubrey De Grey said to Alex Jones in 2008.

"If there is someone trying to depopulate the world, they're not doing a very good job."



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 04:50 AM
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originally posted by: Haxsaw
Hmmm, scary stuff, reminds me of the Gerogia guidstones, the masonic/Zionist plans of population control with freaks like Prince Philip( In His Own Words: We Need To 'Cull' The Surplus Population), and also the new British TV series Utopia.

So we have masonic bigwigs and other satanic/occultist freaks who have lost any form of humanity who are unfortunately in positions of power to make this all come about, calling for a mass population reduction.



OK. Those groups exist. Those plans exist.

But if they were in a position to do this, why haven't they succeeded yet?

Why wait until their backs are against the wall, when the internet is rising up, when they're being arrested?

Why not in 2000?



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 05:01 AM
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a reply to: HiAliens

If I knew I'd tell you, but the fact I don't know their exact timeline(or the exact barriers that the few good people at the top have put in the way of their plans) surely doesn't negate the fact there are a fair few people in power that we know for sure want this to happen, and the fact their seems some minor(or major depending on your view point of course) signs of this being implemented when we look at the big picture of all things considered eg. AIDS', GMO foods(the list goes on and on and on, and couldn't possible be covered in one thread as much as I'd love to see it all in one thread).



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 05:04 AM
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Interview of Mr. Pianka


Vanishing book of life lecture


How much his words has been twisted by media is yet to seen, he do has some points tho we all want same standards of living and developing world is getting there little by little and catching up. Does Earth have capability to sustain all this i doubt that. Chinese, Africans, people of India they all want the same standard of living as American and European people have. When resources are out, there will be chaos, Pianka said ebola would do the population control fast as he believed that its airborne which it is not, he believed that ebola would do it much faster than HIV. Sure Ebola spreads and kills faster but HIV is destroing human race much more sneakier way. As long as Ebola is not airborne it could be restrained.
What he spoke back then about ebola has pretty much lost its edge, we know more now than then. But he has a point that earth is uncapable to sustain all of us.
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posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 05:09 AM
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originally posted by: Haxsaw
a reply to: HiAliens

If I knew I'd tell you, but the fact I don't know their exact timeline(or the exact barriers that the few good people at the top have put in the way of their plans) surely doesn't negate the fact there are a fair few people in power that we know for sure want this to happen, and the fact their seems some minor(or major depending on your view point of course) signs of this being implemented when we look at the big picture of all things considered eg. AIDS', GMO foods(the list goes on and on and on, and couldn't possible be covered in one thread as much as I'd love to see it all in one thread).



There might be people that want it.

They might be trying their best to keep everyone sick: GMO foods, nutritional deprivation etc.

But they're failing hard at a full on genocide.

And we're learning more about nutrition every day.

There's a hell of a lot of suffering right now, but very slowly, we're overcoming all this.

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If it's as easy as releasing one vial of a super-plague, Twelve Monkey's style, how come they haven't done it yet?

Humans are hard to kill.
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posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 05:13 AM
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a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

Fully believe it, they could with correct use of science build an international infrastructure that would allow a sustainable population of over 100 billion quite easily but instead misguided mad men like these so called academic's cheer a man who spoke like one of the indited at the neurembourg war crimes trial's.

It sadden's me that men like this are NOT removed for the good of the human race because they justify the human race going extinct and truly believe themselves to be some other species above the average human being which obviously they are not, they are fool's and murderer's whom I have no doubt already have innocent blood on there hand's and probably frequent cult ceremony's.

Now if the proper scientists and not these mengele like ghouls where in charge we could make a far more populous and sustainable world which would also grant time to find further solutions such as planetary colonization of mars and the moon.

Think ten mile high pyramid A frame's with decks further apart on the lower tier's so as to allow light in (all decks also supplemented by artificial lighting) and glazed on the upper tiers so as to effect climate regulation, on each deck bee hives' and other method's of polynation as well as human polynation and intensive hydroponics sections, so a mix of artifically regulated natural eco systems and artifical ones, food plant's and irrigation systems with a water recycling capability, between each of these mega farm's citys and industry built underground.

Forget 100 billion and try 500 billion with room to spare, and that is without using the ocean which would extend it even further but we have to fix our unsustainable way's now and to start get rid of men like this and there rich backers as they control too much of the world's food and other production method's.

In the future with enough consumer and government need Asteroid's could be mined, orbital scaffolds put in place and farmed, turning the sahara into a checkerboard of black tarmac squares would create updraft vortex and allow precipitation to occur thus causing an increase in rainfall in those area's now left to the sand or solar desalination plant's could be built, even before the spanish it is estimated the Native south american's may have produced SIXTY PERCENT more food than today, Afghanistan could be irrigated, vast area's of siberia are like america's mid west but there are no grain farms there just open steppland left to nature, this supposed doctor and his supporters really need's to go back to school.

When they make these speeches you can be certain they either know of or have a anti viral drug or innoculation effective against Ebola that they would ensure they had while the rest did not.

Anybody else feel like sitting him in a chair with a healthy dose of sodium pentathol.
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posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 05:25 AM
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So far, the most effective way to cull the poplulation is by nuclear detonation as discovered in 1945
www.hiroshimacommittee.org..." target="_blank" class="postlink">www.hiroshimacommittee.org... g.htm

much faster than 100 per month from ebola, especially when the UK has a birth rate of 60,000 per month and the death rate is 655 per 100,000
www.theguardian.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">www.theguardian.com... lation-growth-uk-birth-rate-immigration
www.telegraph.co.uk..." target="_blank" class="postlink">www.telegrap... h.co.uk/health/elderhealth/9028287/Death-rate-in-Britain-at-lowest-level-as-most-live-into-80s.html

if they wanted us gonem we'd be gone

sorry about the messy links ... having some trouble with this...
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posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 06:16 AM
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originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: AreUKiddingMe


Think ten mile high pyramid A frame's with decks further apart on the lower tier's so as to allow light in (all decks also supplemented by artificial lighting) and glazed on the upper tiers so as to effect climate regulation, on each deck bee hives' and other method's of polynation as well as human polynation and intensive hydroponics sections, so a mix of artifically regulated natural eco systems and artifical ones, food plant's and irrigation systems with a water recycling capability, between each of these mega farm's citys and industry built underground.

Forget 100 billion and try 500 billion with room to spare, and that is without using the ocean which would extend it even further but we have to fix our unsustainable way's now and to start get rid of men like this and there rich backers as they control too much of the world's food and other production method's.



Awesome vision. Have you written your ideas anywhere? Otherwise they'll get lost in a thread.

By the time population becomes a problem, we'll be in space anyway.
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posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 06:33 AM
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The natural question is "With all the worlds resources, weapons, delivery methods, etc, why have we not seen a pandemic like 1918 Flu or another world war?"

I belive we have help from above. Whether you call them angels, ets or the universe, we didnt come this far to be wiped out by a band of satan worshipping pyschos. a reply to: Haxsaw



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 06:37 AM
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a reply to: HiAliens

as I said you are acting as if they have no opposition(including help from the unseen, GOD, aliens, jinn, interplanetary, etc) I believe there are way to many variables to make the statements or answer the question/s you are asking.

Not to mention(and in answer to other posts), why are you so set on the belief that they have truly tried to implement it yet, and that almost everything that has happened so far is just part of their plan or testing period(testing procedures, responses, etc). Soooo many other things I could mention to throw into the stew.

As I say waaaaay too many variables to answer/address your questions/satements accurately


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posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: HiAliens

It is not my vision but I draw on visionary's I have read in litterature and other sources so it is common domein as far as I believe, we have since the 1960's had doom saying projections of global overpopulation and this was because it was widely believed that population control could only be enacted through war?.

Understand the reason for population control though as it had nothing to do with food or water or space but to do with class system and heirarchy, to see how they used it in the past go back to WW1 and even before that to the napoleonic war's.

There have been time's when the upper heirarchy have felt there tree house shake or in the case of the fall of the french aristocracy seen it happen to other's and this meant they were no longer secure so they decided to thin the number of poor in there nation and war was there tool, also land clearances from which scotland still has and may never recover as it lost most of it's villages and small towns to that travesty.

In the first world war nearly every family in britain lost someone, we had large familys who still emulated queen victoria and so there were lot's and lot's of lad's to send to the endless killing fields of the somme but then the russian revolution occured and the russians withdrew from the war, in terror of it happening here they sent even more lad's to die.

In western europe it was essentially a class war with the intent of killing off the poor, they succeeded but not as well as they wanted and democratic socialism nearly toppled there control so after the second world war they engineered a plan to divide and break down the social integrity of the working class and poorest community's while finding way's to reduce birth rate,
(most of which entailed additives in food or water that the general public in the UK are not aware of such as PCB's which emulate female hormones in males and reduce male fertility and can be hidden as by product's of polymer waste when in fact there addition was deliberate, look into the history of food science after the second world war and how much is artificial that we eat today, it took how long to adapt to our natural diet before this?).

So to acheive this goal first they set about demolishing the SLUM housing (which in many cases was multi generational two up two down streets that acted like mini villages and extended family's inside the city's), replacing the housing with pen like multi story blocks of flat's with no community in place and no neighbour knew there neighbour and they then encouraged mass immigration into the UK and then later other western European country's of poeple's from outside into these working class and poor communitys', the result was a fragmented social cohesion and further failing and displaced community's.

In fact what is really wrong is all about money and the fact a small and incredibly small group of people control it and hoard it, they are willing to massacre nations for there own personal greed and have so much money they could never use it.

Look at energy production, in Britain we live on an island with some of the largest tidal ranges in the world yet though a scotish inventor invented a method of reducing coastal erosion and taking the power from the waves with a device called the Duck it was sabotaged by a clerk on orders of his higher up's in whitehall who told him to move the decimal point on the cost estimate of implementing this solution, so with one tick of his pen he made the cost ten time's more than it would have been so ensuring the invention was shelved and forgotten about.

There are some heinous crime's commited every day by big business interests who only remember work on the next quarterly estimate and are blind to the cost it entails for the long term future.

There is so much wasted land and not they want to pollute our water table in britain with mass fracking so that a bunch of already wealthy hooray harry's can rip off the nation for there own bank account's but because people are easily led no one see's this.

If immigration is moderated to absorbable level's then I have no problem with it so don't take me wrong we have to eventually abolish national borders if a large global population is to be effectively supported and managed so the past must give way to the future but to What future is the question we all have to ask.

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posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 07:08 AM
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a reply to: countingdown

Actually, nuclear destruction is really messy. The concept of elimination of a major portion of the earth's inhabitants is not simply finding the fastest, more efficient way. The key consideration would be what would be left for the survivors (those who probably caused the problem). They would want most of the resources of infrastructure left to deal with and operate as they saw fit. Stumbling over charred concrete and steel and breathing radioactive dust is not what they would desire. No, forget ICBMs as a trigger.

These days, the use of EMP weapons seems the ideal choice. Kill electricity the world over and so goes most of the population in six month's time. Yes, it would get a bit mess as most of that population kills each other in the hunger games that would follow in the immediate weeks to follow, but in a year's time, it would be nice and quiet. The elites would come out of their dens and marvel over how they had saved the world.



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 08:38 AM
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And those who knew what they had done would be waiting for them?, There are Neutron bomb's, a simple neulcear device which has low residual radiation but is devastating to organic life.

They shatter long chain molecular structures so organic life, wood, rubber and plastic's would be damaged as well, three meters of wet soil is the minimum safe depth to avoid exposure and after six months whatever residual radiation was left would have died down, They were banned by weapon's proliferation treaty and recognized as first strike weapon's so neither side produced them, forget what you read they were not invented in the 1970's but were first developed by the US in the 1960's in secret but the soviet's became aware so development was stopped on both sides after Talk's.

Or a chemical nerve agent that will break down on exposure to the element's, think a binary system, you have half seeded in the atmosphere using dispersal techniques and the other half added to water supply's with an effect that takes a day to work but is not curable.

Either way if it happens then there will be some with there own bunkers intent on not letting them rule the world and a war will be fought after for control, there is no total global elite just a group of delusional and very evil men whom think they are the elite, they make the puppets dance but what happen's when the string's are cut.



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: Aliensun



These days, the use of EMP weapons seems the ideal choice. Kill electricity the world over and so goes most of the population in six month's time.


They dont need EMP to kill the electricity, just access to the 'off' switch. EMP is a fashionable idea right now.
The point i was making was that ebola is to slow to work by comparison.



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

Gotta love the way they grow them in Texas



posted on Jul, 30 2014 @ 10:57 AM
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It seems to me they could just put something in our water that would sterilize us. Painless, and much less messy than AIDS, Ebola, or having to deal with toxic leftovers of nuclear bombs. It wouldn't take long for the population to go down in a hurry.

No, I don't think anyone is trying to depopulate us with diseases. They are spending too much time and money researching those diseases, trying to find causes/cures.



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