As an expat in Saudi, I can't help but notice these

originally posted by: network dude
Wow, well, you sure have it all figured out. The Atlantean conspiracy. Isn't that the douche bag who got banned from here and now claims that "Masons" run this site? He got his pitiful feeling bruised and not has to cry about it.

I am pretty sure Eric did not get banned as his account still shows as active. I went to his site and let him know but he has very thin skin and does not want to come back here. I think he prefers his echo chamber website as opposed to and contradictory viewpoint.

originally posted by: Buddyman
No it's not a dumbass thing to ask when it is true and i'm glad there are many who can see through the guise that many masons pose on this site.

So are you calling me a paid shill? If so, why mince words, be a man and come out and say it.

originally posted by: KSigMason
Are you against restraint?

I'm just citing examples. I practice self-denial myself to some degree. I mean literally I should be able to buy a lot more stuff with my income but all I have probably will just weigh 220 lbs mostly old, inexpensive clothing, old shoes, my old laptop. Most of my income goes to my old parents since I have no family of my own.

What religion is this?

I could not directly say it here. Might be against the rules and inappropriate here (since I would be directly accusing them) but I could open a thread for it and I think I will, soon in religious conspiracies forums which would be more appropriate place for such discussion.

Well, there's nothing inherently wrong or sinister with "occult" or "secrecy" or any other overused buzzwords of conspiracy theorists.

Well this is a conspiracy forum and I think you've read the sticky thread in Secret Societies. Don't make yourself sound spooked. You should have seen this coming.

What's wrong with Hermeticism?

It contradicts my theological beliefs, teaches that the principles on Earth is also the same above (Heaven) - well, here on Earth, the weak is oppressed, I'm kinda hoping it will be different in Heaven. Also follows the pyramidal structure of power - only few gets to the top and the rest are mindless slaves.

Where in the media is Hermeticism shown or slipped in?

The workings of the human society follows the Hermetic Principle. Only few very rich, very powerful people on Earth could get away with anything and are above the law. Most people in the world are living in squalor, like the Asians, Indians, Africans doing cheap labor for western world and that's were the profits are coming from.

Many religions preach the same structure on Earth as it is in Heaven - the more you did for your god, the greater your reward in Heaven. Even mainstream Christianity teach the stuff, but ironically, it contradicted what Christ taught about the reward in Heaven (Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard).

Occult symbols or teachings could actually weaken the body.

LMAO!

I don't literally mean you will feel weak and fatigued all the time. But you definitely get sick just like everybody else.

To most people think that is normal to catch a cold from person sick with colds through contact or from a lack of sleep or eating off the plate of a sick person or not taking vitamins, or poor diet. Or to get sick when you travel overseas because your body is adjusting to foreign strains of diseases it is encountering for the first time.

I have none of those problems. Of course, the problem only went away when I took an active role of repelling these Occult symbols and their teachings away from me.

I think the Hermetic Principle/dark occult works in ways coupled with human nature that is destructive to nature. Perhaps because I took a life of austerity, shunned popular teachings of human society which is harmful to nature, nature seems to be rewarding my efforts. I seemed to be regaining my youth too. This is probably the "fountain of youth" in sorta ways. It is actually a way of life, not a literal spring in some mystical place in the Himalayas or Tibet.

Well, I can't speak to the specifics of your situation, but I have to say that correlation is not causation.

I could partly agree to that but it's hard to deny that something huge happened to me and so sudden. It's possible that something else could have happened. But I did not hit my head or in any accident or anything. Everything I did in those times were normal.

Probably the only visible thing I did differently that could be weird in many aspects is that I let ants go over my food before I ate them. I simply left my food unprotected in my room. Ants would crawl over it during the evening and they will all be completely gone the next morning(and surprisingly leaving most of my food intact!). I'm just being nice to them and they pay me back by disinfecting my food (ants are popularly known to have natural antibiotics in their bodies) because I don't have a fridge. It actually works so well and you are also helping nature, not to mention saving money. I don't think ants are dumb creatures. They could learn to synergize with humans. I know ants can be voracious consumers but not in my case. I think if you help nature, nature will reward you back. Even other living creatures will help you out!

originally posted by: johndeere2020
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Thank you

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originally posted by: KSigMason
a reply to: johndeere2020
Suicide terrorism actually has little to do with religious beliefs. It's usually politically motivated and seek to compel a state governments (usually democracies) to withdraw military from territory the group considers to be their homeland.

And from my recollection targets those with the least to lose/least control over their existence to be the bombers. I don't recall news of a healthy rich man on the business end of a trigger

Fitz

originally posted by: Buddyman
No it's not a dumbass thing to ask when it is true and i'm glad there are many who can see through the guise that many masons pose on this site.

It is glaringly obvious what the agenda is of the lowly mason on this site.

Oooo....oooo....where does lowly end? Is it the infamous 33° Masaon? If so, then please explain how the lowly Master of a lodge is empowered to defrock such a vaunted and powerful individual and why the all-powerful Illuminati would leave such a gaping constitutional hole that could be taken advantage of?

Also, could you be so kind as to explain how it is you as a non-Mason are so better informed than I?

TIA
Fitz

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Buddyman
No it's not a dumbass thing to ask when it is true and i'm glad there are many who can see through the guise that many masons pose on this site.

So are you calling me a paid shill? If so, why mince words, be a man and come out and say it.

I guess given my fitful presence on ATS I'd be a part-time shill? Still, a few extra shekels wouldn't hurt

TIA
Fitz

a reply to: Buddyman
I love the hubris of people who think they, as non-members, know more than actual members. I usually find that those using the "low level Mason" argument really don't have a real understanding of Freemasonry, how we are structured, and how rank/position is established; often they are just parroting something they read on an anti-Mason site.

No, Masons don't pay homage to "Satan/lucifer/enki."

how about you try and talk your way out of this?

A blog is only the opinion of the author. Who cares? It just seems like someone who got banned for violating T&C and now wants to demonize them.

...follow us independent thinkers,as we are a thorn in their side.

LMAO! THat's funny right there. Some of you guys think yourselves so important that you are "followed". ROFL!

Freemasonry really isn't compartmentalized as you try to infer. Nor is all of Freemasonry structured in a pyramid. There is no one leader. There are over 170 Grand Lodges worldwide. Then you have all of the concordant/appendant bodies. Freemasonry is decentralized with many moving parts. You are talking a great deal about something you really have no idea what you are talking about.

I have gone through over 60 Masonic initiations and my experiences in the various groups along with my own research shows that Freemasonry is the antithesis to what it is accused of.

a reply to: johndeere2020
Well, if you want to start a thread, let me know.

I think you misunderstand the "As Above, So Below" principle, and other principles in general, of Hermeticism.

But you definitely get sick just like everybody else.

Well, germs and viruses exist which cause sickness.

To most people think that is normal to catch a cold from person sick with colds through contact or from a lack of sleep or eating off the plate of a sick person or not taking vitamins, or poor diet. Or to get sick when you travel overseas because your body is adjusting to foreign strains of diseases it is encountering for the first time.

I have none of those problems. Of course, the problem only went away when I took an active role of repelling these Occult symbols and their teachings away from me.

Well, I'm skeptical and think you are mixing up correlation with causation.

a reply to: Fitzgibbon
That is generally true, but that is not just true of suicide terrorism; you can see this with rebels in a civil war.

It's crazy how my thread turned into a "defend Freemason" debate.

If you Freemasons claim your org to be a good one, how come this happened??

If you Freemasons want to debate the authenticity of Conspiracies against Freemasonry, create a new thread for that. It's just a few clicks and a few lines and tell others to continue the debate there. No need to ruin someone else's thread and your image as a good org as you guys claim to be..

a reply to: johndeere2020
Well, I defend what I know to be true. You did make statements early on about Freemasonry. The can of worms was opened.

So because we're defending our organization, there must be something wrong with it? That doesn't make sense.

There are plenty of threads that I comment on about Freemasonry. I responded to comments posted in this thread about Masonry, most of them to you. If you didn't want Freemasonry mentioned in this thread then you should be mad at yourself.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: johndeere2020
I was replying to your disbelief that you think such "multi-millenium" plot is insane. You think such plot is ugly but not unless you believe in reincarnation or afterlife just like the beliefs of suicide bombers that's why they don't think twice blowing themselves up.

I did not say it was ugly, I said it was retarded. Reincarnation and belief in an afterlife would not drive a group to compose a multi-millennium plot to install a world government/religion spanning every region of the earth.

This is obvious by the fact that there is no cohesiveness in the earth's religions or governments.

What do you suggest is a practical alternative?? Point all your guns to the enemy and demand them to hand over their government??

There is no practical alternative for 'world domination', the proliferation of nuclear weapons makes overwhelming force a poor option.


Sun Tzu also did not believe is superstitious mumbo jumbo:

Prohibit the taking of omens, and do away with superstitious doubts. Then, until death itself comes, no calamity need be feared.

What else is left? Working out a long-term plan of slowly introducing lies into society. A lie that will make people believe on worthless things. Worthless things the elite will amass in huge amounts to control the world.

You plan's fatal flaw is that he rests on the absolute altruism of every person either previously, currently or who will be involved in the future. Maybe if it were robots running the show I would think it possible, human nature, once factored in, does not permit this scheme to function over a lengthy period.

I don't see how the heck Freemasonry or the modern day Illuminati could ever force the vast majority of the world to believe in 1 religion or support a one world government. I also find it hard to believe a bunch of rich guys with power could work together and want the same thing. To be honest I would think it would be pretty dumb to try and take over the world since that could more than likely give many Jews, Muslims, Atheist, Christians, White, African Americans, Asians, Republicans, Democrats, Communist, Socialist, Libertarians a reason to unite/put their differences a side against a common enemy. The Illuminati need to do a better job of brainwashing people into wanting a one world government/one world religion ect.

edit: Holy crap I have now heard it all when someone claimed occult symbols cause people to get sick and have nightmares.

originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog
edit: Holy crap I have now heard it all when someone claimed occult symbols cause people to get sick and have nightmares.

Because believe it or not, I don't get sick, and don't have nightmares anymore since I became aware of these symbols.

That's over 2 years now. I've worked and lived in three different continents within that time, lived in crowded places with multinationals many from poor countries.

We often have outbreaks of cough and colds and flu in the office and our crowded living compound, and I never got sick... ...I rarely washed my hands - once a day (it gets cleaned when I took a bath). I never took vitamins, food supplements, calcium, etc, my diet is terrible. I just don't eat a lot.

People think it's normal to get sick and to have nightmares once in a while and to spend a lot on pharmaceutical products every year. Not to me. I did not spend a single cent on pharma for the last two years but before that, I did, and got sick just as often as anyone. Note, pharmaceutical products have no effect on me, it's not because I stopped using pharma and then I got super immune system but it's the other way around, I got serious boost on my immune system and so I stopped using pharma.

originally posted by: KSigMason
Well, germs and viruses exist which cause sickness.

But how come, they can't make me sick? I live in an environment highly conducive to catching a disease. A crowded, filthy compound filled with people from poor countries around the world. The canteen sometimes serve us semi-spoiled foods. The place I am is very hot semi-tropical climate in Saudi near the Red sea. We had a recent outbreak of MERS.

I don't wash my hands, my diet is poor, I take no vitamins, nor food supplements. Before I became aware of the evil symbols endemic to our society, I would get sick as often as everybody else. Those symbols seem to have an effect to our bodies.

I don't know if that is part of a plan to wipe off a good portion of the human population by deliberately weakening their immune systems by occult means, and with food and pharma industry and stage a global outbreak of an incurable diseases - only people with very strong immune systems could survive this one.

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