posted on Jul, 30 2006 @ 02:57 AM
Al Paccino knows best...
I always knew the right path. Without exception, I knew. But I never took it, because it was too dang hard. -Scent of a Woman
Oh and I almost forgot... "If I was the man I was 5 years ago, I'd take a FLAMETHROWER to this place!" (Ibid)
Curiousity, I really do not believe that this has anything to do with Godliness. Have a look at Ireland. A X-con (christian conservative) wetdream.
You can barely get a divorce, much less an abortion. Conspicuously neutral while America was purging Europe of the godless earlier this century. A
safe haven for American deserters today.
No, as I said earlier the people take exception because what we're doing is wrong and the governments pay only lip service because they know the
price of doing the right thing.
And as I said, we could find a way to cut them in without blowing the margins. Don't mistake my earlier comments for any statement that we are in the
right. The world is grey. Nothing is ever gained that is not taken from somewhere else and there will ALWAYS be someone stuck with the short end of
The difference between exploitation and trade though is merely taking the time and the effort to bring more people into the bargain until everyone is
getting something they need. And I do mean REAL time and effort- it would take a friggin genius often enough, but it can be done a lot more than it
Curiosity, in all honesty can you question this matter at length and conclude that a shamanist in Uganda will be down on us if a concerted effort to
build functional multilateral trade agreements between the US and India and East African nations and others gives him a good job and 3 hot meals and a
government that can protect his children from rebel factions which kidnap children and force them into military service? Will followers of Buddhism
and Shinto in Japan hate us when we don't twist their government into backing us up in wars that at the very least could have been shorter and less
horrific if we'd simply worked harder?
We'll never please everyone, we're never please the majority, but do you mean to tell me that we can't gain one heart or one mind without first
forcing it to embrace our culture?
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you Curiosity. We're not trying hard enough. We can embrace cynicism (which is tempting and often gets me) but
let me run an old Christian favorite by you in regard to that proposition. A storm once washed thousands of starfish up on the beach, and a man
encountered his friend on that beach throwing them back into the sea. He tells his friend, "How can you possibly make a difference?". The man throws
another one into the sea and says "I made a difference for that one".
I assume you'd agree that christians should try to "save" as many as they can, though the Bible makes it clear that not everyone's gonna make it
and that this WILL BE an evil world.
I say that by the same token that if we are going to claim a moral highground we have to do right by as many as we can in our foreign policy, because
we can't help them all, and we can't turn them all, but we can make their lot and ours that much better for every one we do manage to help.