Christianity & Hobby Lobby

a reply to: Aural

all of Hobby Lobby employees adhere to and follow
all of the remainder of the company Hobby Lobby's religious based
rules and regulations.

off on Sunday and all religious holidays.

no lying cheating or stealing.

originally posted by: spirited75
a reply to: Aural

all of Hobby Lobby employees adhere to and follow
all of the remainder of the company Hobby Lobby's religious based
rules and regulations.

off on Sunday and all religious holidays.

no lying cheating or stealing.

How are those religious based rules?

My mom's favorite hero was Abraham Lincoln. Honesty was drilled into my head. I don't lie or steal, I'm an atheist.

Mandatory prayer sessions would be a company religious based rule.

originally posted by: Aural
Its quite silly really. A company trying to force beliefs on to other people is something it can not do. They give them a pay check so those people can do whatever they want anyway with their money so they are enabling them to begin with. Only way a company can have beleifs is if it discriminations against anyone outside their religion and does not hire anyone outside the religion which would be illegal. So why not allow for them to do what they will anyway and just cover things for them despite beliefs to avoid the hassle for them?

Actually, small companies can. I don't remember the cut-off number, but small companies can hire by belief, etc.

Hobby Lobby is a fairly large corporation. They can not, as far as I know.

Well not until the 5 biased old male Catholic SC judges say they can.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: spirited75
a reply to: Aural

all of Hobby Lobby employees adhere to and follow
all of the remainder of the company Hobby Lobby's religious based
rules and regulations.

off on Sunday and all religious holidays.

no lying cheating or stealing.

How are those religious based rules?

My mom's favorite hero was Abraham Lincoln. Honesty was drilled into my head. I don't lie or steal, I'm an atheist.

Mandatory prayer sessions would be a company religious based rule.

Which Hobby Lobby did not impose.

a reply to: Annee

Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican president was religious.

a reply to: Annee

are you so shallow to believe that the values and
morals codified in society and law today are the
result of something besides religion?

originally posted by: spirited75
a reply to: Annee

Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican president was religious.

You really know how to miss a point, don't you.

Not interested in your preaching. I was Christian most of my life, until I chose to step out of the "god circle". One of the wisest decisions I ever made.

Some animals have a better moral society then humans. They didn't read any damn bible.

Philosophical reasoning does not require a god belief.

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a reply to: Annee

Why is that allowed? You cant hire all white workers or all male workers without being charged. I suppose it makes sense if its like a small kosher food company or amish furniture or something as thats a preference but did they explain why its okay to reject other religious or non religious from being hired?

a reply to: xuenchen
There is more than one kind of birth control pill. Thats hardly a factor.

a reply to: Annee

animals do not have morals.

LOL.

morals are only present in the most intelligent being God created---mankind.

a reply to: spirited75

They are not YET completely understood as to WHAT they know these days. I saw a science show say ALL cats only make 20 noises,so ...

originally posted by: spirited75
a reply to: Annee

animals do not have morals.

LOL.

morals are only present in the most intelligent being God created---mankind.

Ethical treatment of others in group, family units, and complex social structure.

Works for me. But, I'm into philosophical ethics and thinking for myself.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: spirited75
a reply to: Annee

animals do not have morals.

LOL.

morals are only present in the most intelligent being God created---mankind.

Ethical treatment of others in group, family units, and complex social structure.

Works for me. But, I'm into philosophical ethics and thinking for myself.

Ah, so where does government coercion fit into ethical treatment of others, philosophical ethics, and thinking for yourself?

a reply to: Annee

those are not morals.

originally posted by: spirited75
a reply to: Annee

those are not morals.

I am not interested in your god version of ethical behaviors.

I will never, ever again use the word "moral" ---- it became one of the most over used and abused words in history during the GW Bush presidency. It lost any meaning it ever had, as far as I'm concerned.

But, here ya go --- read away. I use Austin Cline a lot as reference. He's knowledgeable and makes sense.

What are Ethics and Morality?:

Atheists and theists frequently debate morality on several levels: what is the origin of morality, what are proper moral behaviors, how should morality be taught, what is the nature of morality, etc. The terms ethics and morality are often used interchangeably and can mean the same in casual conversation, but morality refers to moral standards or conduct while ethics refers to the formal study of such standards and conduct. For theists, morality typically comes from gods and ethics is a function of theology; for atheists, morality is a natural feature of reality or human society and ethics is a part of philosophy. atheism.about.com...

a reply to: Annee

which side are you on?

I could give a rodents tush that your guru, idol, mentor is Austin Cline.
A mere mortal subject to the same foibles and failings as the rest of us
is not going to set or define standards for me.

Hobby Lobby mandates their employees follow their religious beliefs
in that the have every Sunday and religious holiday off and no
progressive liberal is offended or falsely upset about that.

a reply to: spirited75

sunday isn't the day that God appointed as the day of rest...

so what can I say.

religious holidays and sundays have very little to do with morals..
and personally I believe that one can obtain morals in many ways..
and there is a difference between one who believes something is immoral because "God says so" and the person who believes it is wrong because experience has shown them it causes great pain to another and therefore shouldn't be done.
one can cling to religious morals against homosexuality and the like all they want but if they have no empathy to recognize that what they are doing is harming others
I think they are missing the boat!

a reply to: xuenchen

all the more reason for women young and old married or single to refuse to have sex
unless of course they desire to have a child!
if the guys want to have sex bad enough let them abuse their bodies awhile for their sex!

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: xuenchen

all the more reason for women young and old married or single to refuse to have sex
unless of course they desire to have a child!
if the guys want to have sex bad enough let them abuse their bodies awhile for their sex!

What about the women who choose to have sex because they like it and don't view it as a form of abuse to their bodies???

Making babies isn't the only purpose of sex either. At least not from a modern perspective. I suppose if you're a puritan it might be, but not for the rest of humanity though.

That's not a very healthy view of sex BTW.