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posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: MagicWand67

Again, what does ANY of that have to do with chemtrails? You have stated in the past on this site that you believe chemtrails are real. If you've changed your mind, then good. Jets cause pollution, it's true. But it is not deliberate, it is just an unfortunate side effect of burning fossil fuels.

And modern high-bypass jet engines are just about the most efficient means we have of turning fossil fuel into passenger miles. Ironically, these engines produce more visible contrails, even though they burn much more cleanly than older engines.

I still don't see where you are going with this. I think you might want the Fragile Earth forum for pollution worries.
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posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 06:01 PM
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You have stated in the past on this site that you believe chemtrails are real


LIAR !!! PROVE IT.

I have always said geoengineering is real. The term "chemtrails" is something you are obsessed with to distract people from the truth.




I still don't see where you are going with this. I think you might want the Fragile Earth forum for pollution worries.


I will post where ever I choose. This is the GEOENGINEERING FORUM.

Maybe you should go post on metabunk


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posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: MagicWand67



LIAR !!! PROVE IT.


originally posted by: MagicWand67
reply to post by Phage
 


I can not provide you a link.

But, I will attempt to describe it for you.

Chemtrails consist of hygroscopic material that absorbs water causing it to increase in volume giving it a similar appearance of contrail ice crystals.

But these hygroscopic CCN do not sublimate or dissipate like contrail ice crystals do because they can continue to attract and absorb moisture from the surrounding area. Allowing them to persist and remain visible longer.

Some chemtrails begin to sag and droop in areas than have absorbed more moisture than other areas of the chemtrail. Those areas become heavier than the rest of the man-made chem cloud. Giving them their characteristic anomalous appearance.
www.abovetopsecret.com...



The term "chemtrails" is something you are obsessed with to distract people from the truth.

I disagree with that accusation. You appear to be using the term to play both sides of the field. Can't lose the support of the "chemmie community".



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: MagicWand67
a reply to: Rob48


You have stated in the past on this site that you believe chemtrails are real


LIAR !!! PROVE IT.



originally posted by: MagicWand67
reply to post by Chadwickus
 


The main lie is of course

"There is no such thing as chemtrails"
"


From www.abovetopsecret.com...

not too hard to find.
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posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: DenyObfuscation

Indeed I have used the term "chemtrail". But, look at the context in which I used it.

I have always referred to them in the context of Geoengineering and jet exhaust.

I have never stated "They're spraying us like bugs" or "They're trying to kills us".

This is the definition of chemtrail that I "beleive in"....

Source


IMPROPER: internet slang for “chemical-trail”, referring to contrails

CORRECT: (noun) the invisible exhaust particulates released from jet aircraft engines which contribute to the formation of persistent contrails (spreading, man-made clouds that cool the planet during the daytime and trap heat at night).



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: MagicWand67


Indeed I have used the term "chemtrail". But, look at the context in which I used it.

We can stop there for now. You want to invoke "context", NOW?

Think about that for a moment. Any idea what I'm getting at and why at the very least you owe someone an apology?

ETA:


This is the definition of chemtrail that I "beleive in"....


IMPROPER: internet slang for “chemical-trail”, referring to contrails

CORRECT: (noun) the invisible exhaust particulates released from jet aircraft engines which contribute to the formation of persistent contrails (spreading, man-made clouds that cool the planet during the daytime and trap heat at night).

That's no surprise, Ken. Or is it Mini-Lee? You two seem to be of one mind.
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posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: DenyObfuscation

Context has everything to do with it. I don't owe anyone an apology.

Rob has clearly expressed what his definition of "chemtrail" is.

90% of the time I use the term "chemtrail" I put it in quotation marks.

Chemtrail is not my word or belief. It's a label to describe a topic.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: MagicWand67

Visible trails at cruise altitude are ice.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: MagicWand67
You said that it was a lie that there is no such thing as chemtrails.

What is that if not belief that chemtrails exist?



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

I've made it clear what my position is.

And I stand by it.

I am not the topic of this thread.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: MagicWand67
So why did you make yourself the topic?

but thanks to you doing so now we all know what you said.

so that is good



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 10:18 PM
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So why did you make yourself the topic?


I didn't and I don't see how you came to that conclusion.

You're another liar.




but thanks to you doing so now we all know what you said.


Great, so what?




so that is good



Yes it is.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 10:26 PM
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That's no surprise, Ken. Or is it Mini-Lee? You two seem to be of one mind.


Actually, I don't agree with all of his theories. I only discovered that website a month or so ago.

I already told you that I am not Mr Lee. Accuse me again and you will owe me an apology.

I do however agree with a majority of the information and theories he's provided.

When you tell me who you are, I'll tell you who I am.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 10:37 PM
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originally posted by: Rob48
originally posted by: veteranhumanbeing


[I]Rob48[/I] As any chemist will tell you, simple filtering doesn't remove dissolved substances. You try testing your filtered water some time. You'll find it contains a hell of a lot more non-H₂O than a contrail does.


My advice to you is don't drink bottled water; or trust your water company. I drink well water from a 900 foot cistern cavity naturally filtered (and I still put a three stage filter on it).
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posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 10:46 PM
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originally posted by: Rob48
a reply to: vethumanbeing

So you have completely ignored several posts showing that you are not in a "no fly zone" at all, and that lots of commercial air traffic will pass by? The idea that there is a no fly zone along the Mexican border is totally laughable.

Laugh to your hearts content (or ignorance).
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posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 10:46 PM
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I should hope you do - god alone knows what's been living in that "water" for the last 20,000 years since it went down there!! :O

MagicWand that would be where you said:


LIAR! PROVE IT.
- www.abovetopsecret.com...

so I did.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 10:57 PM
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a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

What did you do?

I got your "chemtrails" right here.

Youtube

There I just proved "chemtrails" are real.

A visible contrail from aircraft spraying toxic chemicals in the skies above our head.

GAME OVER


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posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
a reply to: vethumanbeing

There is no "DMZ" along the Mexican border - you are supposed to deny ignorance here - not demonstrate it.

Your post I replied to was incomprehensible - the words did not make any sense.



How would you know where do you live that are/is able to actually see traffic patterns, specifically the AWACS, the military jets, the maneuvers, the eye in the sky blimp (no commercial traffic) as no where HERE to go or return from (why divert from major airports to fly over this area; waste of Jet fuel) and may run into a small Cessna loaded with illicit substances (baking powder). Its a 'crossfire' here and local air traffic is a major distraction.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 11:13 PM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

none of which comprises a "DMZ"



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 11:17 PM
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a reply to: MagicWand67
We've had space shuttle chemtrails before....from someone else who claimed to "be on the fence" ...let's see if I can find one of Matty's old posts...shouldn't be too hard....

Yep - 30 seconds and here it is


originally posted by: MathiasAndrew

Originally posted by jdub297
 



Please state a hypothesis or four to which your gathered "evidence" is relevant.

Merely gathering unrelated snippets of out-of-context quotes and articles into a melange of information would not ever be considered "evidence", much less a preponderance.

So, now "chemtrails" exist in "many different ways."

OK. Name three or four.

The purpose is "unclear?"

Name three or four of these. Can you tie them to the "ways" they exist? .
jw


EXAMPLES of chemtrails

1 ) Space Shuttle exhaust

2 ) Chemical dumping for extinguishing fires

3 ) Fuel dumping for emergency and other required scenarios

4 ) ICBM exhaust other military rockets

5 ) Cloud seeding by plane and other cloud seeding methods (rockets)

6 ) Other methods used for aerosol Geo engineering (ex. balloons)

7 ) Jet exhaust with anomalous persistent contrails
 

I would only hypothesize about the first 4 listed below. As there is not enough supporting evidence to the others listed
......


Hmmm you aren't that guy are you? He liked to claim he didn't believe in "chemtrails" in the conspiracy sense too, as per that post......remarkable similarity.....



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