I'm Asking Any Higher Lifeforms! Earth Needs An Intervention!

a reply to: undo

btw this whole thing is explained in sumerian texts. the world was a shambles (the earth was tohu and bohu) from a cataclysm (the ruach (energy) of god moved over the surface of the water that drew back (evaporated) to reveal dry land that was already there), we know of today as the ice age. the earth's surface was water frozen into ice. the sun melted the ice and evaporated it.

Can i ask where this version comes from? I am very familiar with Sumerian tablets and do not recognize it. Although i am by no means an expert either

originally posted by: JokerThe1st
a reply to: undo

btw this whole thing is explained in sumerian texts. the world was a shambles (the earth was tohu and bohu) from a cataclysm (the ruach (energy) of god moved over the surface of the water that drew back (evaporated) to reveal dry land that was already there), we know of today as the ice age. the earth's surface was water frozen into ice. the sun melted the ice and evaporated it.

Can i ask where this version comes from? I am very familiar with Sumerian tablets and do not recognize it. Although i am by no means an expert either

it's a combo of genesis and sumerian text, i don't remember the name of it but it's the one where the anunna go on strike and enki has to come back to earth from the abzu, and his solution is to create the worker race to replace the anunna. i equate the anunna with the elohim copies in genesis, otherwise called the adam males and females who were created in the image of elohim. they werne't humans yet, they were copies of elohim, whatever that is.

a reply to: undo

Yes, knowing this is an issue has my heart torn apart. Although using race for any means only adding to the mess we already have. Instead of sending it to another place while the Thought having been Good fuels more of the same their already having. Or it is planned that way, one has to wonder how the guns actually got there in the first place! Heard some story about some Oil company came to drill and left a mess later, happens all the time outside the US.

Go out and help someone down the street, block in your town and give your blessing. It will start off as a small act of kindness, only to follow into something Greater Later. Press would have one believe that living under the bridge is their own fault. Or go about adding a different story to hide whats actually really going on. And we do have to face something ourselves here in the US. Its a rat race! Childhood dreams can be broken down so fast no wonder why we have a lack of drive. Then after 2/4/6 yrs of Collage, one job for say 1,000 people!

Heres the catch, knowing this. Most will go out receiving Loans and later when theirs not a job to be found, end up in default so by the time one catches up, if able. The intrest is all your paying and Never the Loan unless you got the one of 5 jobs out there. While going to school, offers of Credit do happen to be tossed out and quickly accepted so one can be trapped being owned by some shady bank. now of course one of you will quickly toss out the red Ball!

Should have read the fine print, or some might go about it in other ways. Nice try! What they don't teach in reg school is how to Live within Your Means! You do not have to have a cell phone unless say your job requires it. That only ends up with people who being at work should be working and not talking on their phone. Some of you know what I mean, even going say a repair shop which already has a phone and while waiting for help, all you see is social talking on phones! No wonder why companys end up going under, or hanging on for dear life!

Race should have died off long ago! If one is smart, knowing this color is not the problem since their an @ss in each one anyways. The one that try to use race as an issue, is nothing but grouping people and making sure theirs a difference! What a mess it would be if we all dropped their Ball on this one. Since if something were to happen, quite badly, what you gonna do? You need their help as bad as they need you so race issues should have died a long time ago if one asks me!

Anyway, going out of your way to help another the best you can has led some to believe it's an easy way out of their mess. Hell even Ho Bo's could tell you many stories about this one fact! Then we have Churches who go way out of their way to feed others who end up facing issues in court over driving food to feed people! Most of you need to get the hell off the computer and see for yourself! Never take for granted what one hears on raido or CNN!

Either way, it would seem we have a major problem if one Chooses to look at it! On all sides we are being blocked into creating Goodness and Peace. Of course Peace is whats within and if you have it, send it out for others to find! We are so caught up bringing in the Light, most have forgotten you Are Light!

Never forget That! If you shine, people will do the same or at least seek it out. Unless one of you have a better plan, please share some ideas!

Peace

a reply to: undo

If that were true...why hasn't their greed taken over and wiped us out eons and thousands of years ago already ? They could've let their greed kill, conquer, enslave and decimate us. Why wait if they are more so than us?

(Obviously, I understand perhaps its because time frames don't compare the same with them as us)

Not to rain on your parade, there, and add the cynical point of view, but it is a real thing, at least in an urban environment, per your advice to go out and help someone else.

I'm all for helping those less fortunate, but sometimes we find it is in fact, ourselves, that is the less fortunate.
If the plane's going down, whose mask do you tend to first, if someone is beside you, and in need of help?
You certainly can't help anyone if you're dead, so it's you, that you tend to first.

As to the reality I spoke of in the urban environment, if you understand it's all manipulated to be the way it is, then you don't blame those you help, but I gotta tell ya, it's not that easy to help someone in that situation. People are out there scamming for whatever they can get their hands on, and that's the truth.
Trying to help can bite you in the ass, for true.

So it's all well and good, this good samaritan attitude….but make sure, also, you aren't doing it just to feel better about yourself. My test is ask yourself this: If I give something to someone, even just my time, do I expect some return, either from them or from somewhere else, or expect to be recognized, somehow, for my effort?

If you do, you aren't truly gifting your ability to help…you are either trying to make yourself feel good about yourself, or get recognition of some kind from those around you for your effort. This isn't "gifting," or really trying to help.

I think the best way to help is taken from the airplane example above: take care of yourself, first, though not to the detriment of others. Then help within boundaries, which are very important.
tetra

a reply to: JokerThe1st

Check + , Okay There.

Yet the swarms have now come alive, whats this being said? How dare you even go there, crap cave people! We have a Live One! Does seem to bring out the Trolls if you ask me.

Even Trolls need Love! We all need some sort of Love to start Flowing Around! Not that silly man's version of Love. If we had just a few more like Christ, Buddha and some of the old who went out of their way to teach us this. I can only be humble and willing to do the same.

Of course most books are twisted, cut short and changed so one has a hard time learning anything. Best one can do is drop everything ever told and take a chance to find out the Truth Themselves. Yet it is what I claim to know, so I ask for you do at least go there. That is the first step! My world is different, shoes I've been given are mine alone.

Thanks for the Tip! And here I though I just awaken some on ATS! Sometimes I wonder if some even sleep! Here on page 2, late and Life calling! Yet a storm is a coming! No Sillys, Check KS radar LOL not every Storm leads to Porn! Must power down, would say going to bed only Love when Mother Nature give a show!

Peace

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: undo

If that were true...why hasn't their greed taken over and wiped us out eons and thousands of years ago already ? They could've let their greed kill, conquer, enslave and decimate us. Why wait if they are more so than us?

(Obviously, I understand perhaps its because time frames don't compare the same with them as us)

erm, i think it did happen eons ago. if hadn't been for enki (who the sumerian texts say, created us) warning the noah figure, there wouldn't be a single human on this planet. and the really sad part is this is how that all came about:

the sons of god descended to the earth and abducted female humans, creating a strange mixture of half human and half angelic? being. this race was called the nephilim. some call them giants. i don't think they were giants, they were just various advanced human like entities but they weren't human nor were they elohim copies. (more on them later)

anyway, there were wars, pollution was rampant, the animals and plants were no longer edible, a massive drought hit and the crops died, disease was rampant, the humans began to die enmasse from any one of various things mentioned already, and THEN the nephilim began to eat the remaining humans as a food source. it says in the book of enoch, that as they died, their cries went up to heaven.

next thing that happens, god decides to punish the humans by creating a flood that wipes them all out. doh.

in the sumerian version it says that enki finds a human (who is still human) and decides to rescue him (he wasn't the only one warned, he was just the only one warned in sumer as far as i can tell). however, enlil, who decreed the flood in the first place, made all the anunnaki agree not to warn the humans nor the nephilim, so they would all be wiped out together. enki had to agree to it because this is enlil's planet ...divine law and all that jazz.

however, enki comes up with an idea. he's not supposed to tell the humans, however, nothing says he can't tell a wall, so while the noah figure is in a reed walled hut, enki tells the reed wall of the hut what's going to happen and how to survive it in an ark boat (he gives him the dimensions to build it and so on), knowing the noah guy can hear him. loophole.

a reply to: stormbringer1701

I have never come across that myself. And here I had some ideas that when God took the Rib from Adam had some sort of hidden meaning or was place their for one to Learn what it actually was trying to say.

We have ideas of some sort of bloodline, when the Watcher went behind Gods Back? some know the story. yet even the crime he placed upon them was not the same for Satan. If anything, one would have though God would have gone way out of His way on this one!

Yet Satan went to Eve, so never really messed with Adam. Cleaver! Better get off, seems rain is now starting and a flash! Thanks For the rain! Poor Trees needed it out here! Get back to this tomorrow, something to stir and add to the pot, Thank You!

Peace

a reply to: infoseeker26754

wrong. adam had already eaten from the tree of knowledge, in other words, he was already procreative. and procreation was what enlil was angry about. he didn't want eternally living procreators on his garden planet. how do i know this? cause it says adam was lonely. why wasn't he lonely before? before, he didn't need a sexual partner. but now he was procreative, he needed a partner. it was when they had sex, after enlil forbidding it, that the crap hit the fan .

see the story is going back and forth between what enlil did and what enki did, and calling the whole thing what one god did. but there's more than one god in the story there. the reason it seems that way is because it often doesn't differentiate between the "god of this world" (who is satan, not the serpent in the garden) and "god the creator". one is a god of life and creation, the other, a god of death. there's a huge difference, but the text doesn't differentiate as much as it should.

I would like to add for anyone reading this thread that what these people are discussing are their own interpretations and understandings of someone elses interpretations of the Sumerian Epics (Zacharia Sitchins). The information they are arguing about and stating as fact are nothing more than possibilities, none of this has been proven true. It would be foolish to take anyones word without correctly researching and disseminating the information that is being discussed first. I state this as a means to caution others from believing someone elses chosen opinion/belief of what the Sumerian Tablets truly meant to convey. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but we must not forget they are only opinions, not fact.

Kind regards,

Eric

Fear and greed are what drives human nature. A greater race would be fools to intervene. There are those among us who would only want to exploit or destroy them.

I'm not saying all of mankind is scared and evil. But those who are tend to find themselves in powerful positions. Good people don't seek to live on the top of the mountain, they only seek to live and do good. But they are an afterthought, meaningless. And too many times, good people who do rise up against the bad wind up a statistic with loved ones grieving for them or their lives in shambles.

Until the good of mankind overpowers and outweighs the bad of mankind, no greater being would intervene I don't think. Maybe God will one day, but he appears to be either on vacation or leaving it all up to free will. Alien races though....nah, they probably watch us destroy ourselves from their space ships like we watch our favorite television shows. They only leave when they're out of popcorn.

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

black sea flood

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epic of gilgamesh tablet XI (the flood tablet)
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book of enoch chapter 7
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every verse with the word man in it (should've been adam, but english translators put man there instead)
we have god and then we have lord god. click the little numbers after the words to see the original words and their meanings and root forms.
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the story of atrahasis: the creation of humans
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I agree with the title of this thread but that's about it. Honestly I wouldn't look in here if I was a higher life-form than an ordinary human being. The only way we're going to fix this issue is if we all band together and do it ourselves. Fight for what's good, right and fair. While ousting those who have their hands around our metaphysical throats. We need to have a global consciousness, without constant war and fighting. It is this very conflict that those malicious ones use as a catalyst to break in and "save" those who need saving, while doing more damage.

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

I have to kindly disagree

1-27. ......seat in heaven. ...... flood. ...... mankind. So he made ....... Then Nintur ....... Holy Inana made a lament for its people. Enki took counsel with himself. An, Enlil, Enki and Ninhursaja made all the gods of heaven and earth take an oath by invoking An and Enlil. In those days Zi-ud-sura the king, the gudug priest, ....... He fashioned ....... The humble, committed, reverent ....... Day by day, standing constantly at ....... Something that was not a dream appeared, conversation ......, ...... taking an oath by invoking heaven and earth. In the Ki-ur, the gods ...... a wall. Zi-ud-sura, standing at its side, heard: "Side-wall standing at my left side, ....... Side-wall, I will speak words to you; take heed of my words, pay attention to my instructions. A flood will sweep over the ...... in all the ....... A decision that the seed of mankind is to be destroyed has been made. The verdict, the word of the divine assembly, cannot be revoked. The order announced by An and Enlil cannot be overturned. Their kingship, their term has been cut off; their heart should be rested about this. Now ....... What ......."
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Part of the flood story from the tablets



1-11. In those days, in the days when heaven and earth were created; in those nights, in the nights when heaven and earth were created; in those years, in the years when the fates were determined; when the Anuna gods were born; when the goddesses were taken in marriage; when the goddesses were distributed in heaven and earth; when the goddesses …… became pregnant and gave birth; when the gods were obliged (?) …… their food …… dining halls; the senior gods oversaw the work, while the minor gods were bearing the toil. The gods were digging the canals and piling up the silt in Ḫarali. The gods, crushing the clay, began complaining about this life.



56-61. Enki answered Ninmaḫ: "I will counterbalance whatever fate -- good or bad -- you happen to decide." Ninmaḫ took clay from the top of the abzu in her hand and she fashioned from it first a man who could not bend his outstretched weak hands. Enki looked at the man who cannot bend his outstretched weak hands, and decreed his fate: he appointed him as a servant of the king.

Both sections taken from Enki and Ninmah tablet

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The above is not Z.Stichins work. The above if from the tablets direct. Of course there could be mistakes in the translation.

a reply to: JokerThe1st

The above is not Z.Stichins work. The above if from the tablets direct. Of course there could be mistakes in the translation.

i know, isn't it frustrating that now any time sumerian texts are mentioned, people assume it's zecharia sitchin's writing.

a reply to: infoseeker26754

There can be no intervention.

a reply to: infoseeker26754

Earthlings have been waiting for divine intervention since the beginning,

If we come to a point where really need an intervention - we failed. In such a case I don't see any `higher' civilization letting us do the same nor would I wish they let us. If there is something inherently wrong with us, I don't think we might be able to change our ways.

The sad part is, some people are aware of the problem. What's even more sad it's a tiny fraction of what it should be.

a reply to: krzyspmac
we are not going to change

a reply to: undo

Well lets see, War being listed in the Top 3 Things that ever happened say since the start of Man's Creation. If you like, it existed in Heaven, or while God was creating Adam, even after Creation Itself! Even some stone tablets, paintings show War Happening in the skys, with lasers yet one does not want to go there.

Here today even, we have small talk about 5 possible different types of not of this world people here now even at War! So it is safe to say War itself exist Everywhere? Or War is at least a Big 2 on the List Of Long Time Happenings ever written/recorded throughout Time? Even in Heaven also? End Times, 2012, Chap Rev still at War! WTF?

Now I can not say I know this as a Fact, yet to back up everything have to have at least 3 other stories say from different parts of said world discribing the same War in different ways! So that being said, War Has Existed at least 5,000's if not more if I'm dating at the start of Last oldest stone tablet ever found.

That's Disturbing!

Peace