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A source tells Fox News that the Military Association of Atheists and Free Thinkers plans to make the request on Tuesday, floating its president Jason Torpy as the proposed chaplain. Asked for comment, the association referred FoxNews.com to its position in support of a prior bid to name a "humanist" chaplain. The Defense Department has not yet returned requests for comment. ...
Democrats tried, unsuccessfully, to pass legislation creating such a post in 2013. In response, Republicans offered up a measure of their own to prohibit the Pentagon from naming such a chaplain. The House approved the measure in July. ...
A separate organization, The Humanist Society, endorsed Oxford-educated religious scholar Jason Heap last year to be the first-ever humanist chaplain in the U.S. Navy. The MAAF supported the application. All along, the group has argued that more people identify as atheists and humanists than any other non-Christian denomination.
US Army Chaplain Corps Mission - The U.S. Army Chaplains Corps provides religious support to America’s Army, assists commanders to ensure the right to free exercise of religion is upheld, and provides spiritual, moral and ethical leadership.
The office of Chaplain is not just to provide a ―religious‖ officer to the organization to offer prayers at meetings. The Chaplain has loftier purposes:
1- To help persons grow as individuals and particularly in their relationship with God.
2- To help persons grow in their relationships to one another and become a true comrade to
one another.
3- To serve as a reminder of the transcendent in life,
4- To develop an environment with which comrades are encouraged in their personal and
collective moral and spiritual growth.
5- To remind all Americans that God is the source of all rights and privileges.
originally posted by: minusinfinity
An 'atheist chaplain' ?!?
Isn't that an oxymoron?
originally posted by: Arktos1
a reply to: FlyersFan
I think the term "Atheist Chaplain" is a total oxymoron and find it ridiculous that any atheist group would want to use that term specifically.
It always amazes me. No matter a group's philosophy or belief system is, when the extreme views are prevalent and become consensus among that group they seem to:
a) Digress into hypocrisy
b) Adopt similar methods to those that they oppose
c) Seek a popular acceptance over their specific groups' idea of enlightenment
Merriam Websters Dictionary, definition of chaplain:
chap·lain noun \ˈcha-plən\
: a priest or other Christian religious leader who performs religious services for a military group (such as the army) or for a prison, hospital, etc.
1: a clergyman in charge of a chapel
2: a clergyman officially attached to a branch of the military, to an institution, or to a family or court
3: a person chosen to conduct religious exercises (as at a meeting of a club or society)
4: a clergyman appointed to assist a bishop (as at a liturgical function)
originally posted by: Sremmos80
Ya I think this is overboard.
Why would atheist need a chaplin? What are they going to talk about??
Agree with you that if they feel that need, they can just go talk to the shrink.
I wonder what their insignia would be....
originally posted by: Sremmos80
Ya I think this is overboard.
Why would atheist need a chaplin? What are they going to talk about??
Agree with you that if they feel that need, they can just go talk to the shrink.
I wonder what their insignia would be....
originally posted by: minusinfinity
originally posted by: Sremmos80
Ya I think this is overboard.
Why would atheist need a chaplin? What are they going to talk about??
Agree with you that if they feel that need, they can just go talk to the shrink.
I wonder what their insignia would be....
The insignia hmmm....maybe the inverted chaplain insignia.
The U.S. Army Chaplains Corps provides religious support to America’s Army, assists commanders to ensure the right to free exercise of religion is upheld, and provides spiritual, moral and ethical leadership.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: FlyersFan
The U.S. Army Chaplains Corps provides religious support to America’s Army, assists commanders to ensure the right to free exercise of religion is upheld, and provides spiritual, moral and ethical leadership.
Many atheists believe in a spirituality. Some believe in life after death. And surely, atheists have moral and ethical challenges, just as anyone does.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: FlyersFan
The U.S. Army Chaplains Corps provides religious support to America’s Army, assists commanders to ensure the right to free exercise of religion is upheld, and provides spiritual, moral and ethical leadership.
Many atheists believe in a spirituality. Some believe in life after death. And surely, atheists have moral and ethical challenges, just as anyone does.
originally posted by: HomerinNC
How about a 'nonreligious liaison' to handle the same things the Chaplains do, without subscribing to a particular belief system?
In practical terms, the change means that humanists could face fewer hurdles in trying to organize within the ranks; military brass would have better information to aid in planning a deceased soldier’s funeral; and it could lay the groundwork for eventually adding humanist chaplains.
originally posted by: seeker1963
But do they believe in Freedom and the Freedom of Speech?
Grant you, Christianity is paying the price for their religion dictating government policies for years.
However, how is this behavior any different?