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Does anyone here take the bible completely litteraly

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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 04:34 PM
The word christ was derived from the translation of the Hebrew word mashiach(messiah) it meant to rub or smear oil upon someone (like a King or Prophet) as a "symbol" of having the power of God.

Some define christ as a title however it has the essence of a "name" but not in the sense of a modern "personal" names where it is just an identifier.A name to the ancients was the nature or character of the thing or person named.The word christ was used as an adjective to denote a person.The difference between all "christs" and Yahoshua is he IS THE Christ.That is why he IS the only begotten "son" of the creator God because it IS his nature.That nature is the "power" of "life" the meaning/ essence of the word "spirit".(the creator God IS spirit..not "A" spirit)

The fallacy that we are a "spirit" having a human experience is false.Man does not "possess" or is an "entity" that is a spirit or a soul(two different words).Man is a physical being composed of matter when it is "animated" by spirit(life)they are a soul.Man has neither "A" spirit or soul.Man IS a soul that is alive(spirit).The life man has is the "spirit of man".That "life" is destined to die so it is not( for lack of a better term)… "Spirit"

All things that are created are made "through" christ.Yahoshua IS the "seed" of all mankind.That process is "mirrored" in the natural process of all "life" in the physical realm.It is a temporal realm because it is "like" a womb.Things created cannot live there indefinitely. They must eventually be "born"/delivered (the meaning of salvation) into "life"(Spirit).

The process of conception is seed(spermatozoon) to zygote,to embryo to fetus to birth.Salvation is a process not an event.That "salvation" is for ALL mankind because of Yahoshua…which means Yahweh(the creator God) IS salvation.Yahoshua is THE christ because he is the seed of life that EVERYTHING is created through.

Unless a seed "die" it cannot produce fruit.The seeds death is from one form of life(lower) to another(higher). Mankinds "life" in the physical realm is"the spirit of man".That life is temporal because everyone who has ever lived ...WILL die…including Yahoshua…the son of man.

Yahoshua's death was preeminent because he is the "seed" of all life(spirit).He was not "sacrificed" like a pagan ritual and his blood "avenged" a blood thirsty God for vengeance. He died the life of a man which happened to be at the hands of murderers who were extremely religious(not unlike some today).It was inevitable that religious men would kill the King of Life.The significance of the crucifixion was that was "how" he died". There was nothing "magical" about that particular execution.He probably died as much from what he experienced in the scourging.The time in "history" he died has no particular significance either.As physicist(Einstein) know…all time is present.The bottom line is just like the creation of physical realm man(the 1st Adam) so is the "new man" being created through conception from the 2nd Adam(son of man)

The "form" of the process is the same because everything is created through "laws".The creator God did not (and won't) be revealing exactly how that process works because there is no reason to.It won't change or help anything.All that has been "testified" to is there is a process of "salvation" going on and it WILL work WITHOUT ANY assistance of any kind of any of mankind.The "belief" that "salvation"(born again,ascension,reincarnation, etc ,etc,etc…) is happening any other way is only the false religion of man.The only thing man can know about the conception/salvation is they can see the "shadow" of it through the conception of a human.

The bottom line is the creator God is "conceiving" children and just how and when they are conceived is not known except they have ZERO part in the creation process except experiencing it.Mankind did NOTHING to cause it's inception or cause any of the processes.The carnal religious mind of man has concocted all sorts of fantasies about "reality" by belief in faith of "their" Belief System which is "their" religion.Fortunately for everyone NONE of them are truth.

The fact is the "miracle" of life is exceptionally humdrum and "normal" and …the most awe inspiring experience EVER!Mans only job is to experience it.Nothing more can be done to "improve" upon it or cause it….so go …and sin no more…and live because ….you haven't even been born yet….That's the Good News.

posted on May, 19 2014 @ 05:57 PM
a reply to: Rex282

That "salvation" is for ALL mankind because of Yahoshua…which means Yahweh(the creator God) IS salvation.Yahoshua is THE christ because he is the seed of life that EVERYTHING is created through.
The creator of what is created, I think that is what you said above.
"Panta" is what it says in the Greek, in Colossians 1:16.
It means basically, "everything", but you have one word that you have to use, so it practically becomes meaningless unless you can qualify it somehow.
It does in this verse by specifying a few things to give the general idea, which is systems of authority, or what causes things to happen in a certain way.
The context seems to be that the church itself exists as his creation, and that he is in possession of all the qualifications necessary to be the head of it.
Within that realm, he is virtually God.
John 5:24-27
"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.
Very truly I tell you, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live.
For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself.
And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.

(2011 NIV)
Your eternal life starts in this life, and those already dead are being given their lives, or rather they were being given it at that time when Jesus was saying that.

t….so go …and sin no more…and live because ….you haven't even been born yet….That's the Good News.
Nope, the good news is that those who believe have already started their new lives, so live as purely as if you were in God's presence in Heaven.
This is the purpose for which we have been saved, to live righteously, now.
edit on 19-5-2014 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)

posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 12:32 PM

originally posted by: borntowatch
Meaning every word, every story, every parable is literal

Do Pharisees “You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.” (Matt. 23:24, NIV) swallow camels?

Would you pluck out an eye “If thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out…” Matt. 5:29

Do you hate your parents “If any man come to me and hate not his father and mother…”

Do you believe “The cities are great, and walled up to heaven.” Deut. 1:28, or the walls are just very high

Maybe “Everything is possible for him who believes.” (Mark 9:23b, NIV), everything, millions, fame and all earthly desires

Do the Father and Son just sit in heaven on thrones “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.” Psalm 110:1

Does anyone here on ats who claims Christianity not believe that the bibles writers used figures of speech, exaggerations or extravagant analogies

Do any atheists take it literally, in so much as to believe that is how it is interpreted and should be understood by Christians

Just asking because I would be surprised if many, if any, do.

I take the Bible as God's revelation to our spirit man. The mind merely categorizes and files portions of Scripture as literal, allegory, etc, according to what has been revealed to our spirit man.

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