Job Opening...Please provide your Facebook Account and Headshot.

I saw several jobs listed at an Entertainment Establishment.

I am not looking for a job but it was listed on FB so I took a look at it.

To my amazement there it was...Please provide a link to your FB account.

I had heard that it was going on. It was just shocking to see it.

They also asked for a Headshot. This too kind of got to me.

So, I decided to call the Parent Company. I don't want to say their name (possible T&C violation).

I finally got the person in charge.

I ask them why they think what somebody does off the clock is their business?

He immediately launched into a babble filled excuse that sounded ridiculous and illegal.

Something about they were not looking at appearance but to get a gauge on the applicant.

I quickly called BS. Then he muttered something about how narrow it was between tables.

I told him I would not be visiting anytime soon. He offered me Free Passes. No Thanks.

We ended the call. Then I noticed within an hour the post was removed.

Today a brand new ad appeared without these two requests.

I kind of feel like this is a small victory. Should potential employers ask for this information?

I think it is Orwellian....Thoughts?

reply to post by whyamIhere


Good for you, calling him on this completely intrusive job listing. If they want to pay you for 24 hours a day, then maybe they have a right to some personal, away from the job information. If not, they only own you for the number of hours they pay you for.

Who you know, and how you spend your off time, is none of their business.

Des

reply to post by whyamIhere


It is not uncommon for employees to volunteer headshots and include them in the resume package submitted. In a highly competitive job market, it might be what helps them remember you.

For a company to solicit seems like a EEOC case waiting to happen

reply to post by whyamIhere


I don't know why they need your FB info. What about us sane people who don't have a Facebook account? Could I send them my ATS account info.? Do you think it would improve my chance?

In my opinion a headshot is a reasonable request.

If the position is for a job in the public eye would you want an ugly person or an attractive person? Why waste time?

Just being honest.

I'm in the uk. Recently while unemployed I was instructed by the jobcenter to go to room number...
When I got there, there was a lady from the national carreers office telling a room full of people why they should sign up with face book!
She said employers are using it find employee's therefore it increases your chance of finding work.

If thats the case, then what happens to the guy who's just unlucky and has a face like the back end of a cow!!! Does it mean that I could sabotage someones employment chances by linking to their page with porn or other undesirable material?

Its a bad idea, everyone should avoid it.

I don't have a facebook, guess I don't qualify for that position, I must be a criminal or something or worse, paranoid. Oh My!

reply to post by whyamIhere


Nice to see an ATS member doing investigative work...

However, before I comment, I do need information about where (what country) you saw this information...Yes, I guess that is somewhat Orwellian, too...:/

From my personal experiences as a dual US/overseas country citizen, it is not unusual for some countries to ask you for photographs & other information when forwarding resumes/applying for positions...

i don't know what to think really. On 1 hand if I was an employer, I can see looking beyond just what is on a person application. I mean that goes both ways. It must be hard to represent yourself with just some words on a piece of paper. So if you were to look at somebodys FB page and see them flashing gang signs, smoking weed and just being gangsta you could look at that and think this may not be the person I want to hire.

You could look at it and see they do volunteer work for the community, have good family relations and are just more kind of normal decent people.

In this day of social media its almost an extension of a job application.

It may not be so much about what people do on their own time, but how they choose to portray themselves to the public on FB.

There are people here who smoke weed, I don't but have nothing against it. I would bet not many here that do have fb pics of smoking big blunts with a gun in their hand.

Asking for the password to your acct. does seem out there though, why not just get their fb ID and look?

Fortunately I havent had to fill out a job app in like 25 years

reply to post by VoidHawk


Exactly!

It never ceases to amaze me how people become surprised when their online activities come back to haunt them!

If you want to act like an idiot then fine but why do people feel the need to advertise their stupid actions?!?

I do it on ATS because I'm somewhat anonymous but I wouldn't attach my face or name to my comments. lol

reply to post by BurningSpearess


It is in So. California...

I was in this industry for many years.

They are looking for hot young women. They think it sells booze.

Show me a hot young woman...

I will show you somebody that probably doesn't want to work Fri & Sat every weekend.

In my experience.

whyamIhere
I saw several jobs listed at an Entertainment Establishment.

I am not looking for a job but it was listed on FB so I took a look at it.

To my amazement there it was...Please provide a link to your FB account.

I had heard that it was going on. It was just shocking to see it.

They also asked for a Headshot. This too kind of got to me.

So, I decided to call the Parent Company. I don't want to say their name (possible T&C violation).

I finally got the person in charge.

I ask them why they think what somebody does off the clock is their business?

He immediately launched into a babble filled excuse that sounded ridiculous and illegal.

Something about they were not looking at appearance but to get a gauge on the applicant.

I quickly called BS. Then he muttered something about how narrow it was between tables.

I told him I would not be visiting anytime soon. He offered me Free Passes. No Thanks.

We ended the call. Then I noticed within an hour the post was removed.

Today a brand new ad appeared without these two requests.

I kind of feel like this is a small victory. Should potential employers ask for this information?

I think it is Orwellian....Thoughts?

they can ask but people must refuse.

what a funny world we live in....

just because technology exists....doesn't mean we need to use it......

someone i know went for a job interview in wales and they wanted her facebook LOGIN AND PASSWORD!!! AND password!!! wtf!!!

reply to post by whyamIhere


California
Knows
How
To
Party...

Just saying...

And yes, hot beautiful girls will work for a thousand an hour!

So why have employers waste their time on ugly, fat ones with two left feet...sounds rude & brutal, I know, but accept the truth...

Now, if this were an office position, I'd have a different opinion...lol...

ladyteeny
someone i know went for a job interview in wales and they wanted her facebook LOGIN AND PASSWORD!!! AND password!!! wtf!!!

People should make a second FB account for employers.

This is beyond ridiculous. I would not work for anyone asking these questions.

Password? No Way

Well, I'll tell ya what. This is how it works. You apply for a job. The employer takes a look on the Internet. He googles you and looks for a FB account. If he finds you, he observes what you put there. It's public. You put it there for all the world to see, so how can you legitimately object if all the world sees it?

In a recent case I know about a small woodworking company was looking for a new employee to help in the shop. These guys do custom kitchen cabinets, so there is inside work and outside work. A guy applied they were interested in, so the employer googled him, and discovered he billed himself as the [Insert controversial substance here] King of the Western State! His profile picture showed him holding up a brew with one hand and his other draped around a scantily-clad young woman who looked inebriated.

They tried to hire some office help as well. Same kind of thing. And these guys pay way more than the minimum wage, too. The installer guys make seriously good money. Yet this firm is having a hard time finding someone to hire. With all this unemployment you would think it would be a buyer's market out there, but finding someone who actually wants to work for a living is a lot harder than it sounds.

Now lots of people here take the attitude that they rent their bodies for 8 hours a day and beyond work time the employer has no say in what they do. OK, but look at it from the employer's point of view. He wants someone with good character, someone who is dependable and will show up for work on time and further, someone who will not embarrass the company "on his own time." How can a prospective company judge a prospective employee on those traits? It's risky to hire someone, so how can an employer reduce his exposure, reduce his risk?

One way is to call previous employers, if there are any, but the fact is employers are increasingly shy about giving out ANY information other than dates worked and position held. That's because they fear liability for violating "your rights." But if you are stupid enough to put provocative stuff on your FB page for all the world to see, tough. An employer has the "right" to not hire you, too.

It's all about attitude, really, and if you think your "rights" are such that no one else can tell YOU what to do, by God! then the obvious answer is to work for yourself. Seriously. I don't mean this as sarcasm. Working for yourself buys you a freedom you can't get elsewhere.

reply to post by BurningSpearess


What I was saying.

If you walk into a restaurant and the host/hostess is a buck toothed, cross eyed, drooling idiot with a booger hanging out of his/her nose are you going to be hungry? On the other hand if the person is attractive and professional wouldn't you feel more at ease?

Say what you will but you know the truth. It's okay.

Honestly if you had the choice between having a one night stand with a super sexy dumb person or a super smart ugly person who would you choose?

minusinfinity
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

I don't know why they need your FB info. What about us sane people who don't have a Facebook account? Could I send them my ATS account info.? Do you think it would improve my chance?

In my opinion a headshot is a reasonable request.

If the position is for a job in the public eye would you want an ugly person or an attractive person? Why waste time?

Just being honest.

If you ever are in a position to hire, the above statement could have you dragged through an EEOC audit. If you have never done that before, you can simulate it with a wire brush.

Its becoming quite common for potential employers to "get back" to you "soon". They get a good cross-section of your time, likes and dislikes and friends. They check Twitter, LinkED, Facebook etc...and come up with an idea...correct or not...about you...and how much time you spend online and with your "interests".

Its something we didnt take into account with social networking. But since we make most of that generally public, they have a right to see it (if its public and not "friends only may view this page").

Hey, you cant blame them...gotta blame ourselves for making things public, Just hope they dont see you listen to Death Metal music and have mostly hot-guys or girls as friends. And that you may support the Medical Marijuana Inititive...or Impeach Obama.

Hate it as we might...we did this to ourselves.

whyamIhere
reply to post by BurningSpearess

 

It is in So. California...

I was in this industry for many years.

They are looking for hot young women. They think it sells booze.

Show me a hot young woman...

I will show you somebody that probably doesn't want to work Fri & Sat every weekend.

In my experience.

From personal experience...."hot young women" do not sell more booze. They cheapen your place, give less than stellar service, and fight amongst themselves all the time. In the F&B world, a group of "hot young" cocktails in a bar/restaurant are metaphorically called "diva's".

I have worked in a shop that had diva's in the bar. I was more than happy to let attrition resolve that particular staffing issue on its own.

And one more thing here...if you tell them you dont have a Facebook page...and later they find it...you could be let go from your new position should you get it...for lying on an application!