Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

originally posted by: cosmonova

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has called on fighters to lay down their arms as the crisis deepens, with dozens dead, hundreds wounded and tens of thousands of refugees.

07:39 GMT:
Over 100 civilians, including Russian and Italian citizens, have been killed during the Kiev military operation in eastern Ukraine, Russia’s Investigative Committee said.

06:34 GMT:
Ukraine's ambassador to the UN, Yury Sergeyev, accused the deceased Russian journalists of being responsible for their own deaths, claiming they were wearing no ‘PRESS’ identification.

Sergeyev accused Rossiya TV channel’s Igor Kornelyuk and Anton Voloshin of being in the middle of a “group of terrorists” attacking Ukrainian troops.

“Ten terrorists were killed in the firefight, many were wounded and only in hospital they found out that one of them is a Russian journalist,” Sergeyev said.

Kiev’s authorities had “recommended all journalists to wear special signs and armor,” but Russian reporters “wore none and worked at their own risk,” he added.

Rossiya TV journalist Igor Kornelyuk (R) and sound engineer Anton Voloshin (L)Rossiya TV journalist Igor Kornelyuk (R) and sound engineer Anton Voloshin (L)
In fact, Vesti TV channel cameraman Victor Denisov confirmed that all Russian journalists he met were wearing special “PRESS” signs.

On the video published by RT earlier it can be seen clearly that there was no firefight and that the Russian journalists were accompanying a group of civilians trying to escape the war zone. A direct hit by a mortar into a group of people left no chance for anyone to survive.

While reporter Igor Kornelyuk died of fatal injuries in the pro-federalization forces’ hospital, the body of Anton Voloshin was torn to pieces, so for several hours he was considered to be missing, until his remains were identified.

Earlier, Ukraine’s Security Service also accused the killed journalists of having no accreditation from the country’s Foreign Ministry, but the necessity to obtain accreditation was actually canceled back in 2011.

05:11 GMT:
Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Ukrainian counterpart, Petro Poroshenko, discussed a possible ceasefire in eastern Ukraine and the deaths of two Russian journalists there in a late night telephone conversation, the Kremlin said.

The conversation "touched on the theme of a possible ceasefire in the area of military action in southeastern Ukraine", the Kremlin said in a statement.

It also said Putin had expressed his concern over the deaths of two Russian state television journalists, who were killed in shelling in clashes between Kiev and anti-government forces near the eastern city of Lugansk.


Poroshenko expressed his condolences and assured Putin there would be an investigation and measures would be taken to protect journalists. (Reuters)

Not sure what there is to investigate journalists were following around separatists they came under attack. Separatists unable to protect journalists and they died. Im going to say Poreshenko wont bother with an investigation i mean theres even video nothing and in war zones journalists die.

Does Russian media realize its losing all credibility ? Russia’s top 40 lies about Ukraine

www.examiner.com...

Donetsk, 18/06/14
Protest of miners against Junta's TO

“The people of the DPR will fight. First of all the foreign enemy, and then oligarchs’ turn will come,” TASS cites an official of the self-proclaimed republic as saying.

Miners from the Donetsk Region in eastern Ukraine will take arms if the Kiev authorities do not stop their military operation in the region within two days, a deputy coal industry minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), Konstantin Kuznetsov, said Wednesday.
“Miners have given (the Kiev authorities) two days to stop the so-called antiterrorism operation. Unless that happens, they are taking up arms and are going to defend their land, wives and children,” Kuznetsov said.
Read more: voiceofrussia.com...

a reply to: dragonridr

Does Russian media realize its losing all credibility ? Russia’s top 40 lies about Ukraine

Very interesting list...really makes it hard to believe anything coming from Russian media after seeing that list.

Yalta, Crimea, 18/06/14

Summer season, no war, a lot of people enjoying the beach.
Wonder what would happen if Russia did not act fast enough to recognise referendum results in Crimea.
Unfortunately, people of Novorossiya need to fight for their sovereignty.

NWO will retreat into the cave soon. LOL))) Silly folks. Days are numbered. You see, their ready to push THAT hard is an indication NWO plan is a pipe dream. Not that strong. They can orchestrate, plan, get to last resorts, cheat, create rules that serve them now, then change all rules to fit new plan, spit on treaties when situation changes, trying to pose as masters of double talk. The desperate attempt of banksters elite to start a war speaks of desperate affairs internally.
Russia is waiting for the corpse of NWO to pass by in a river without single shot.

Why do you think NWO is so pushy? Yep, it is looking at its last days. Cornered so to speak. )))

interesting article

It has been a while since both Ukraine, and the ongoing Russian response to western sanctions (which set off the great Eurasian axis in motion, pushing China and Russia close together, and accelerating the "Holy Grail" gas deal between the two countries) have made headlines. It is still not clear just why the western media dropped Ukraine coverage like a hot potato, especially since the civil war in Ukraine's Donbas continues to rage and claim dozens of casualties on both sides. Perhaps the audience has simply gotten tired of hearing about mixed chess/checkers game between Putin vs Obama, and instead has reverted to reading the propaganda surrounding just as deadly events in the third war of Iraq in as many decades.

However, "out of sight" may be just what Russia's political elite wants. In fact, as VoR's Valentin Mândr??escu reports, while the great US spin and distraction machine is focused elsewhere, Russia is already preparing for the next steps. Which brings us to Putin advisor Sergey Glazyev, the same person who in early March was the first to suggest Russia dump US bonds and abandon the dollar in retaliation to US sanctions, a strategy which worked because even as the Kremlin has retained control over Crimea, western sanctions have magically halted (and not only that, but as the Russian central bank just reported, the country's 2014 current account surplus may be as high as $35 billion, up from $33 billion in 2013, and a far cry from some fabricated "$200+ billion" in Russian capital outflows which Mario Draghi was warning about recently). Glazyev was also the person instrumental in pushing the Kremlin to approach China and force the nat gas deal with Beijing which took place not necessarily at the most beneficial terms for Russia.

surprise,surprise

It is this same Glazyev who published an article in Russian Argumenty Nedeli, in which he outlined a plan for "undermining the economic strength of the US" in order to force Washington to stop the civil war in Ukraine. Glazyev believes that the only way of making the US give up its plans on starting a new cold war is to crash the dollar system.

As summarized by VoR, in his article, published by Argumenty Nedeli, Putin's economic aide and the mastermind behind the Eurasian Economic Union, argues that Washington is trying to provoke a Russian military intervention in Ukraine, using the junta in Kiev as bait. If fulfilled, the plan will give Washington a number of important benefits. Firstly, it will allow the US to introduce new sanctions against Russia, writing off Moscow's portfolio of US Treasury bills. More important is that a new wave of sanctions will create a situation in which Russian companies won't be able to service their debts to European banks.

According to Glazyev, the so-called "third phase" of sanctions against Russia will be a tremendous cost for the European Union. The total estimated losses will be higher than 1 trillion euros. Such losses will severely hurt the European economy, making the US the sole "safe haven" in the world. Harsh sanctions against Russia will also displace Gazprom from the European energy market, leaving it wide open for the much more expensive LNG from the US.

this sums up brilliantly

An anti-dollar coalition would be the first step for the creation of an anti-war coalition

www.zerohedge.com...

NWO is already dead. Low life thinking, like we are still in our 1970th, morans. Old fart retards. Time for a new generation thinking, young patriots, who are willing to trade, respect other nations, find compromises, clever respectful planning based on recognition of people's equality, find common goals against natural disasters, humanitarian help, make planet better place to prosper for everyone, donate, be aware of compassion concept toward people in need, sacrifice personal gain in a name of true wellbeing of the planet's populace, work on plans to stop hunger worldwide.

cheers

Poroshenko is a CIA agent. It is absolutely clear from the words that come out from this man's mouth.

Every single action of this man is stage managed from Washington DC.

The most recent is 'unilateral ceasefire' on the weirdest terms possible.

ISIS in Iraq may very well be a CIA operation. You never know. Clever way of bringing Shia dominated Iraqi government down.

Iraq has become the hot end of cold war between east and west. Now same fate awaits Ukraine.

If Ukrainians do not come to their senses, the only outcome is grave destruction in Ukraine. NATO or EU cannot help Ukraine. The West is only up to new and old trick in Ukraine that Ukrainian people are unable to see.

The fanning of emotional nature of a conflict by relentless 24 hour mass media is the favorite Western trick.

ISIS in Iraq may very well be a CIA operation. You never know. Clever way of bringing Shia dominated Iraqi government down.

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ISIS was trained by US in Jordan in 2012

Guess another US lab rat turned into a monster !!!

www.globalresearch.ca... an-base

originally posted by: victor7

ISIS in Iraq may very well be a CIA operation. You never know. Clever way of bringing Shia dominated Iraqi government down.

a reply to: GargIndia

ISIS was trained by US in Jordan in 2012

Guess another US lab rat turned into a monster !!!

www.globalresearch.ca... an-base

I agree US needs to stop handing out aid look at all the money we put into Russia to bail them out of trouble now of course we have ISIS showing up on the scene. Cant wait for the day Washington realizes it needs to stop trying to fix broken countries and just stays out of it. Hopefully wont repeat same mistake twice let Iraq fall like they should have done with Russia. Theres no point in trying to build up countries just to have them turn on you later because some power mad dictator takes over.

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Looks like the rebels are refusing the ultimatum and continuing to fight. At this point looks like Ukraine is planning on sending home the Russian "volunteers home in body bags". I figured by now Putin would realize this isnt going to go like Crimea and call his people back.

Ukraine rebels speak of heavy losses in battle against government troops
(Reuters) - Ukrainian troops and pro-Russian separatists were locked in fierce fighting in the east of Ukraine on Thursday and a rebel commander acknowledged big losses among separatists heavily outgunned by government forces.

Even as President Petro Poroshenko and his team prepared to unveil their blueprint for ending more than two months of rebellion, government forces, using artillery and heavy armour, said they were tightening the noose on separatists near Krasny Liman, north of the main regional hub of Donetsk.

Government forces said the fighting erupted in the early hours after rebels refused to lay down their arms as part of Poroshenko's peace plan.

in.reuters.com...

'Anti-Kiev forces control Dovzhansky border with Russia'

this was nasty ambush.Allegedly Aidar battalion was acting on its own when ambushed. Graphic images.

People's self-defense have completely destroyed Aidar batallion during a fight (100 junta gunmen were killed).

this is a link to LiveLeak clip with English subtitles

www.liveleak.com...

no wonder they are dying like flies in direct confrontations. Low morale, no experience, no support.
Should just go home to Kiev.

Ukrainian National Guard Soldier: 'We're Used As Cannon Fodder'
Published 18 June 2014
A member of Ukraine's National Guard has complained about a lack of proper military planning as troops fight the separatist insurgency in the country's east. The unidentified soldier, whose voice has been altered for this video, pleaded with the government to provide more professional support for Ukrainian military operations. (RFE/RL's Ukrainian Service)

check the link for video with English subtitles

www.rferl.org...

originally posted by: cosmonova
this was nasty ambush.Allegedly Aidar battalion was acting on its own when ambushed. Graphic images.

People's self-defense have completely destroyed Aidar batallion during a fight (100 junta gunmen were killed).

this is a link to LiveLeak clip with English subtitles

www.liveleak.com...

Cant believe they let the guy bleed out and die without getting helping stopping the bleeding. During a battles one thing but this was clearly afterwards lets hope someone returns the favor to the cameraman.

Ukraine Will Sign EU Association Agreement Next Week

www.themoscowtimes.com...

Don't think Putin has any idea on what to do next !!

Not right when his supporters in the east with rag tag weapons are facing on a complete army.

originally posted by: victor7
Ukraine Will Sign EU Association Agreement Next Week

www.themoscowtimes.com...

Don't think Putin has any idea on what to do next !!

Not right when his supporters in the east with rag tag weapons are facing on a complete army.

actually that might change as we speak as allegedly NAF have took over a large military base in Artemovsk with more than 200 tanks. I have no doubt this might come handy.
And as for EU agreement, what he is signing is the beginning of suffering for years AKA Austerity. Check Greece, Spain and the rest. Add to that civil war, collapsing economy, corruption out of control...Might sound silly but Ukraine as a part of Russian Federation would be a much better and more sensible solution for people there. Ukraine will never be a part of EU.
That is just a dream which is going to turn into nightmare or reality check with Austerity program.

Warehouse of military equipment in Artemovsk. The city is under the control of militias. In stock: 221 tank, 183 infantry fighting vehicles, 288 armored personnel carriers, 126 self-propelled guns, 12 mortars, 18 "Grad".

Источник: politikus.ru...
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