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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 07:44 PM
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Just when you thought you heard everything from Kiev puppets, like PM calling those who support people of Novorossiya subhumans or FM calling president of Russia f....r, we have the latest gem



KIEV, June 16 (RIA Novosti) – Russian special services may stand behind the events at the Russian embassy in Kiev, Ukraine’s Interior Ministry said Monday.
"We believe that the result of these events could also be a clever provocation by Russian special services," the adviser to the Ukraine’s Interior Minister Anton Gerashchenko said at a briefing in Kiev.
"We do not rule out that the very idea of protesting in front of the Russian embassy was planted by the Russian special services," Gerashchenko added.
Gerashchenko noted that Ukrainian specialists are now examining such a possibility. In particular, they are trying to find out who had sent a message with a call to go to the Russian embassy in Kiev.
On June 14, scores of demonstrators gathered outside the Russian embassy in Kiev. The crowd tore the Russian flag from the embassy building and broke the pavement. Rocks and smoke grenades were thrown at the building. The protesters also hurled a Molotov cocktail at the embassy, causing a minor fire which was extinguished. The police did nothing to stop the crowd, according to local media outlets.
Ukraine’s Acting Foreign Minister Andrii Deshchytsia also joined the crow at the embassy. He spoke about Russian President Vladimir Putin using offensive language and declared his solidarity with the protesters, saying that "he would have stood there himself," according to the Ukrainian media.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on the following day that Deshchytsia had allowed himself statements that were beyond "decency". Lavrov added that he did not know how Deshchytsia planned to communicate and work with his Russian colleagues following Deshchytsia's comments on June 14.



collective paranoia, schizophrenia or just cookie poisoning?
edit on 16-6-2014 by cosmonova because: (no reason given)




posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 07:48 PM
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looks like Russia has turned taps off



After failing to pay its gas bill, Ukraine now has to pay in advance for any natural gas from Russia, Gazprom said on Monday. Both companies have filed lawsuits against each other at the Stockholm Arbitration Court

“This decision was taken due to systematic failure of Naftogaz Ukraine to pay. The debt of the company for Russian gas stands at $4.458 billion, including $1.451 billion for November and December 2013, and $3.007 billion for April-May 2014,” Gazprom said in a statement posted on their website.
“They’ve paid zero. Correspondingly we deliver zero,” Sergey Kupriyanov, a Gazprom spokesperson said in a press conference following the announcement.

Reuters reports that gas supplies to Ukraine were restricted off as soon as the deadline at 10:00am in Moscow passed.



posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 12:20 AM
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Things arent going well for the donbass peoples republic. Here is a letter put on the internet by Igor Ivanovich Strelkov the leader of the Donbass militia. He seems to be very upset with Putin said there cause is lost basically not being able to hold up to the heavy weapons of the Ukrainian army.And seems irate Russia isnt helping and gives his movement weeks saying there being surrounded and cut off. But at the very end of his speech hes talking about the overthrow of Russia or maybe more Putin. he said this


And the next war, the war that we will not witness, will be on Russia’s territory – right after the “Moscow Maidan,” of course …


www.twitlonger.com...



posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 03:09 AM
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I get the feeling we're on the edge of a SHTF moment globally.



posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 03:22 AM
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originally posted by: GenerationGap
I get the feeling we're on the edge of a SHTF moment globally.


Me to alot of balls in the air and no one willing to catch them. I see alot of similarities to the start of world war2 in multiple locations. Even worse Russia is an unexpected wild card in the game Putin appears to have just lost touch with reality and is unpredictable to say the least.



posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 05:00 AM
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It is quite sad to see Ukrainian youth indoctrinated with Nazi ideology.
They might be less dangerous when they attack embassies and consulates like this fella in Odessa yesterday
wearing t-shirt with Nazi insignia, see clip at 21 seconds.




but it is completely different thing when you give them weapons and let them hunt 'subhumans' (according to acting PM) in Novorossiya.


edit on 17-6-2014 by cosmonova because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 05:08 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

The leader in Donbass is right. Where are the heavy weapons to defend against constant tank, mortar and artillery bombardment on civilians. More than 500 people have been killed and how many injured and displaced is not even countable.

Cutting gas of Ukraine will force Kiev to start stealing or stopping the gas going to EU. This will firm up Russia's resolve and reasons and we might see some heavy action from Moscow.

West will introduce more sanctions and that will throw oil and energy prices off the charts. Global recession can result and Maidans can start showing up everywhere including DC, London and Berlin.



posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 05:52 AM
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Ukraine for 45 days had more than 2,500 killed, wounded and captured
17:38 16.06.2014.18

CIA AND FBI IN SOUTHEASTERN UKRAINE previously had 13 dead and 12 WOUNDED

Co-chairman of the movement "Popular Front" Southeast of Ukraine Vladimir Rogov, citing data from the Ukrainian officers loyal to the rebels, said that total losses (dead, wounded, captured) "punitive expedition" in the east of Ukraine amounted to 2,670 people from 2 May to 14 June .

Of which:

- 1,240 extremists from the right sector, mainly in the ranks of the National Guard, as well as losses of the National Guard of Ukraine;

- 770 Ukrainian mercenaries Igor Kolomojskog (in special battalions of mercenaries Ukrainian oligarchs Kolomojskog - "Dnepr", "Donbas" and "Azov");

- 25 members of the CIA and the FBI (13 dead and 12 wounded)

- 140 foreign mercenaries: poland, private military companies "ASBS Othago" lost 21 men, the U.S. private military company "Grejstoun" - 29 people, the U.S. private military company "Asademi" (up to 2009. Known as Blackwater) - 85 people.


Ukrainians have so far lost six aircraft, 16 helicopters, seven tanks, three multiple rocket launchers "Grad" multiple rocket launchers, two "Hurricane", 16 amphibious infantry fighting vehicles, 35 armored personnel carriers.


and in Russian




according to these numbers losses are quite high, no wonder they cannot move forward for 2 months.
My guess is lack of warfare experience, lack of motivation and fear of direct confrontation thus mostly shelling and air strikes.



posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 06:24 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
Things arent going well for the donbass peoples republic. Here is a letter put on the internet by Igor Ivanovich Strelkov the leader of the Donbass militia. He seems to be very upset with Putin said there cause is lost basically not being able to hold up to the heavy weapons of the Ukrainian army.And seems irate Russia isnt helping and gives his movement weeks saying there being surrounded and cut off. But at the very end of his speech hes talking about the overthrow of Russia or maybe more Putin. he said this


And the next war, the war that we will not witness, will be on Russia’s territory – right after the “Moscow Maidan,” of course …


www.twitlonger.com...


I have to say I am bit disappointed with your comments. I thought,based on your military experience, you would know that Igor (Strelkov) Girkin is a former officer of the GRU (Main Intelligence Directorate), and he is not an adventurer who bangs nonsense. As a person with a 'real deal' military&intelligence experience, Girkin knows very well that things such as the number of troops, weapons, military readiness are not for public eyes, especially through public media outlets such as the site "Russian Spring".

What you read is typical Psy Ops my friend.

This article is an attempt to have NazGuard drawn into urban combat warfare based on 'gloom and doom' he provides in his reports. But I doubt NazGuard have enough confidence to try its luck at this stage. So he will keep posting these reports, or keep fishing so to speak.
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posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 12:54 PM
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originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: dragonridr
Things arent going well for the donbass peoples republic. Here is a letter put on the internet by Igor Ivanovich Strelkov the leader of the Donbass militia. He seems to be very upset with Putin said there cause is lost basically not being able to hold up to the heavy weapons of the Ukrainian army.And seems irate Russia isnt helping and gives his movement weeks saying there being surrounded and cut off. But at the very end of his speech hes talking about the overthrow of Russia or maybe more Putin. he said this


And the next war, the war that we will not witness, will be on Russia’s territory – right after the “Moscow Maidan,” of course …


www.twitlonger.com...


I have to say I am bit disappointed with your comments. I thought,based on your military experience, you would know that Igor (Strelkov) Girkin is a former officer of the GRU (Main Intelligence Directorate), and he is not an adventurer who bangs nonsense. As a person with a 'real deal' military&intelligence experience, Girkin knows very well that things such as the number of troops, weapons, military readiness are not for public eyes, especially through public media outlets such as the site "Russian Spring".

What you read is typical Psy Ops my friend.

This article is an attempt to have NazGuard drawn into urban combat warfare based on 'gloom and doom' he provides in his reports. But I doubt NazGuard have enough confidence to try its luck at this stage. So he will keep posting these reports, or keep fishing so to speak.



Ok thats funny you never let your enemy know your being hurt unless your wanting to negotiate. Real world militarily its stupid to admit your losing to try to get apmwone into urban combat like you claim. See in urban combat the key is making it seem you have a larger force than you do. His goal is two fold letting russia know things are bad and open negotiations with kiev.



posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: victor7




The leader in Donbass is right. Where are the heavy weapons to defend against constant tank, mortar and artillery bombardment on civilians. More than 500 people have been killed and how many injured and displaced is not even countable.


Funny that this wasn't happening until Russia decided they would poke a hornets nest then run away laughing.



posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 05:53 PM
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Foreign journalist speaking of his experience in war zone in Ukraine.
A lot of unhappy faces in studio and one of them is the famous tie eater from Georgia.




posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 06:10 PM
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one of the main gas pipelines to Europe has been blown up, one day after Russia stopped supplying gas to Ukraine.
This place is outside war zone.




and just a reminder



The leader of the far-right Ukrainian nationalist Pravy Sektor (Right Sector) party has reportedly threatened to attack Russia's lucrative gas pipeline which travels through Ukraine to prevent the Kremlin from sparking a "Third World War".

"We cannot allow the enemy to carry out a blitzkrieg attack on Ukrainian territory," said Dmitry Yarosh, according to Voice of Russia.

The pipeline in question, the Trans-Siberian Pipeline, supplies Europe with the majority of its gas imports.

"We are well aware of the fact that Russia is earning money by transporting its oil and gas to the West through our pipe," he said. "Therefore, we'll destroy this pipe in order to deprive Russia of its financing source."


www.ibtimes.co.uk...


this just shows that Ukraine is not reliable for providing a safe gas transit which means South Stream is the way to go
and will go ahead as planned. Europe simply has no options.
edit on 17-6-2014 by cosmonova because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 10:26 PM
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originally posted by: cosmonova


this just shows that Ukraine is not reliable for providing a safe gas transit which means South Stream is the way to go
and will go ahead as planned. Europe simply has no options.


Stopping the gas from going to EU will be an act of war and a strong reason for Moscow bomb western Ukraine into ruins.

The time is also good as ISIS is pounding the living hell out of the US allies in Iraq. Now DC is going begging to Iran for help. Actions of ISIS will make the US change its plans from leaving Afghanistan. Bogged down in 2 places already, DC/London/Brussles will force shove their own tails up their rears and play meek.

Once Ukraine is solved then the Nazi Hunt II should take place with Right Sector and Svoboda types "hunted and hauled" over to 'good but short lived hospitality' by ISIS in Iraq.



posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: cosmonova
one of the main gas pipelines to Europe has been blown up, one day after Russia stopped supplying gas to Ukraine.
This place is outside war zone.




and just a reminder



The leader of the far-right Ukrainian nationalist Pravy Sektor (Right Sector) party has reportedly threatened to attack Russia's lucrative gas pipeline which travels through Ukraine to prevent the Kremlin from sparking a "Third World War".

"We cannot allow the enemy to carry out a blitzkrieg attack on Ukrainian territory," said Dmitry Yarosh, according to Voice of Russia.

The pipeline in question, the Trans-Siberian Pipeline, supplies Europe with the majority of its gas imports.

"We are well aware of the fact that Russia is earning money by transporting its oil and gas to the West through our pipe," he said. "Therefore, we'll destroy this pipe in order to deprive Russia of its financing source."


www.ibtimes.co.uk...


this just shows that Ukraine is not reliable for providing a safe gas transit which means South Stream is the way to go
and will go ahead as planned. Europe simply has no options.


You just make stuff up as you go along dont you? First south stream is years away from completion. Second its on hold the EU will not approve it mostly because of Putins actions. If the pipelines are destroyed it will severly curtail Russias capability to sell gas. Now if anything this attack was set up by someone not attempting to damage the transit of Russian gas. They chose a spot easily bypassed meaning destroying it was just for show. This makes it much more likely its a Russian operation than right sektor even they know the main switching lines and could easily attack those shutting off the flow through Ukraine.

Since this was obviously not done to prevent the flow of Russian gas that means either it was an accident or a show put on by Russia to try to blame right sektor in hopes of panicking Europe pick one.



posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: victor7

originally posted by: cosmonova


this just shows that Ukraine is not reliable for providing a safe gas transit which means South Stream is the way to go
and will go ahead as planned. Europe simply has no options.


Stopping the gas from going to EU will be an act of war and a strong reason for Moscow bomb western Ukraine into ruins.

The time is also good as ISIS is pounding the living hell out of the US allies in Iraq. Now DC is going begging to Iran for help. Actions of ISIS will make the US change its plans from leaving Afghanistan. Bogged down in 2 places already, DC/London/Brussles will force shove their own tails up their rears and play meek.

Once Ukraine is solved then the Nazi Hunt II should take place with Right Sector and Svoboda types "hunted and hauled" over to 'good but short lived hospitality' by ISIS in Iraq.


Ok again clueless do you even get international news where your at Iraq has asked for military assistance but washington is ignoring the request. The US is no longer involved in Iraq nor does it look like it will be Obama has offered no assistance. The Iraqies had an opportunity 2 years ago to extend US involvement they declined forces were removed US obligation is done. As they say its Chinas problem now all those oil contracts they paid alot of money for are on the line. Its much more likely China will offer assistance long before the US gets involved. Obama will not deploy US forces its not in him.



posted on Jun, 17 2014 @ 11:19 PM
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We're going to file this in the you have to be kidding me file. Apparently the solution to stop Russians from crossing into Ukraine to fight build a wall. Do they think they're China? Though i guess there is some similarities now that i think about it lol. Im sure Putin the Hun could catch on.




Billionaire businessman Ihor Kolomoisky has suggested building a wall along the almost 2,000 km (1,200-mile) land border with Russia to prevent fighters and weapons flooding in.

The idea may sound absurd but Kolomoisky has offered to stump up 100 million euros ($136 million) to fund the two-metre (six-feet) high, 25-30 cm (10-12 inch) thick wall of reinforced steel, complete with electronic alarms, trenches and minefields.



in.reuters.com...



posted on Jun, 18 2014 @ 01:49 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: cosmonova
one of the main gas pipelines to Europe has been blown up, one day after Russia stopped supplying gas to Ukraine.
This place is outside war zone.




and just a reminder



The leader of the far-right Ukrainian nationalist Pravy Sektor (Right Sector) party has reportedly threatened to attack Russia's lucrative gas pipeline which travels through Ukraine to prevent the Kremlin from sparking a "Third World War".

"We cannot allow the enemy to carry out a blitzkrieg attack on Ukrainian territory," said Dmitry Yarosh, according to Voice of Russia.

The pipeline in question, the Trans-Siberian Pipeline, supplies Europe with the majority of its gas imports.

"We are well aware of the fact that Russia is earning money by transporting its oil and gas to the West through our pipe," he said. "Therefore, we'll destroy this pipe in order to deprive Russia of its financing source."


www.ibtimes.co.uk...


this just shows that Ukraine is not reliable for providing a safe gas transit which means South Stream is the way to go
and will go ahead as planned. Europe simply has no options.


You just make stuff up as you go along dont you? First south stream is years away from completion. Second its on hold the EU will not approve it mostly because of Putins actions. If the pipelines are destroyed it will severly curtail Russias capability to sell gas. Now if anything this attack was set up by someone not attempting to damage the transit of Russian gas. They chose a spot easily bypassed meaning destroying it was just for show. This makes it much more likely its a Russian operation than right sektor even they know the main switching lines and could easily attack those shutting off the flow through Ukraine.

Since this was obviously not done to prevent the flow of Russian gas that means either it was an accident or a show put on by Russia to try to blame right sektor in hopes of panicking Europe pick one.


yes South Stream is years away from completion. Love the confidence you use in your postings, pity it end up as a comedy most of the time.


The South Stream gas pipeline project will transport Russian natural gas across Europe via Bulgaria to Italy.
Construction of the Russian section of the pipeline was started in December 2012, near Anapa at the Krasnodar Territory. Construction of the Bulgarian section started in October 2013.
South Stream pipeline is being built by Gazprom (Russian) and Eni (Italian) and will be fully operational by late 2015.


www.hydrocarbons-technology.com...


South Stream is a reality and it is in the best interest for Europe, same like North Stream. To rely on Ukraine is
a risky business. More pipes less trouble.
edit on 18-6-2014 by cosmonova because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 18 2014 @ 02:14 AM
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originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: cosmonova
one of the main gas pipelines to Europe has been blown up, one day after Russia stopped supplying gas to Ukraine.
This place is outside war zone.




and just a reminder



The leader of the far-right Ukrainian nationalist Pravy Sektor (Right Sector) party has reportedly threatened to attack Russia's lucrative gas pipeline which travels through Ukraine to prevent the Kremlin from sparking a "Third World War".

"We cannot allow the enemy to carry out a blitzkrieg attack on Ukrainian territory," said Dmitry Yarosh, according to Voice of Russia.

The pipeline in question, the Trans-Siberian Pipeline, supplies Europe with the majority of its gas imports.

"We are well aware of the fact that Russia is earning money by transporting its oil and gas to the West through our pipe," he said. "Therefore, we'll destroy this pipe in order to deprive Russia of its financing source."


www.ibtimes.co.uk...


this just shows that Ukraine is not reliable for providing a safe gas transit which means South Stream is the way to go
and will go ahead as planned. Europe simply has no options.


You just make stuff up as you go along dont you? First south stream is years away from completion. Second its on hold the EU will not approve it mostly because of Putins actions. If the pipelines are destroyed it will severly curtail Russias capability to sell gas. Now if anything this attack was set up by someone not attempting to damage the transit of Russian gas. They chose a spot easily bypassed meaning destroying it was just for show. This makes it much more likely its a Russian operation than right sektor even they know the main switching lines and could easily attack those shutting off the flow through Ukraine.

Since this was obviously not done to prevent the flow of Russian gas that means either it was an accident or a show put on by Russia to try to blame right sektor in hopes of panicking Europe pick one.


yes South Stream is years away from completion. Love the confidence you use in your postings, pity it end up as a comedy most of the time.


The South Stream gas pipeline project will transport Russian natural gas across Europe via Bulgaria to Italy.
Construction of the Russian section of the pipeline was started in December 2012, near Anapa at the Krasnodar Territory. Construction of the Bulgarian section started in October 2013.
South Stream pipeline is being built by Gazprom (Russian) and Eni (Italian) and will be fully operational by late 2015.


www.hydrocarbons-technology.com...


South Stream is a reality and it is in the best interest for Europe, same like North Stream. To rely on Ukraine is
a risky business. More pipes less trouble.


Southstream wasnt scheduled to be completed until 2020 at 80 billion cubic meters a year. The gas pipeline construction wasl started in December 2012. First gas supplies were scheduled for late 2015 with a preliminary capacity of 15.75 billion cubic meters (3 additinal strings to be built). These 3 additional routes bringing the gas pipeline to its full capacity was planned for 2018–2019 of 63 billion. In other words two problems doesnt replace the amount flowing through ukraine for years and second the whole project is on hold pending EU approval and has already delayed construction. It currently violates EU laws and on hold. Then theres this detail as well Bulgaria stopped construction.

www.bbc.com...



posted on Jun, 18 2014 @ 03:40 AM
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Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has called on fighters to lay down their arms as the crisis deepens, with dozens dead, hundreds wounded and tens of thousands of refugees.

07:39 GMT:
Over 100 civilians, including Russian and Italian citizens, have been killed during the Kiev military operation in eastern Ukraine, Russia’s Investigative Committee said.

06:34 GMT:
Ukraine's ambassador to the UN, Yury Sergeyev, accused the deceased Russian journalists of being responsible for their own deaths, claiming they were wearing no ‘PRESS’ identification.

Sergeyev accused Rossiya TV channel’s Igor Kornelyuk and Anton Voloshin of being in the middle of a “group of terrorists” attacking Ukrainian troops.

“Ten terrorists were killed in the firefight, many were wounded and only in hospital they found out that one of them is a Russian journalist,” Sergeyev said.

Kiev’s authorities had “recommended all journalists to wear special signs and armor,” but Russian reporters “wore none and worked at their own risk,” he added.

Rossiya TV journalist Igor Kornelyuk (R) and sound engineer Anton Voloshin (L)Rossiya TV journalist Igor Kornelyuk (R) and sound engineer Anton Voloshin (L)
In fact, Vesti TV channel cameraman Victor Denisov confirmed that all Russian journalists he met were wearing special “PRESS” signs.

On the video published by RT earlier it can be seen clearly that there was no firefight and that the Russian journalists were accompanying a group of civilians trying to escape the war zone. A direct hit by a mortar into a group of people left no chance for anyone to survive.

While reporter Igor Kornelyuk died of fatal injuries in the pro-federalization forces’ hospital, the body of Anton Voloshin was torn to pieces, so for several hours he was considered to be missing, until his remains were identified.

Earlier, Ukraine’s Security Service also accused the killed journalists of having no accreditation from the country’s Foreign Ministry, but the necessity to obtain accreditation was actually canceled back in 2011.

05:11 GMT:
Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Ukrainian counterpart, Petro Poroshenko, discussed a possible ceasefire in eastern Ukraine and the deaths of two Russian journalists there in a late night telephone conversation, the Kremlin said.

The conversation "touched on the theme of a possible ceasefire in the area of military action in southeastern Ukraine", the Kremlin said in a statement.

It also said Putin had expressed his concern over the deaths of two Russian state television journalists, who were killed in shelling in clashes between Kiev and anti-government forces near the eastern city of Lugansk.


Poroshenko expressed his condolences and assured Putin there would be an investigation and measures would be taken to protect journalists. (Reuters)



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