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Ukraine crisis: Violent clashes in Mariupol as both sides begin burying their dead

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ex-deputy chief of #Odessa police Fuchedzhy arrested today, accused of inaction/complicity in 2 May tragedy which resulted in >40 deaths

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In #Odessa, the oblast police chief Dmitry Fuchedzhi was arrested today on behalf of the order of the new governor. Charge: Treason.

Slavyansk completely surrounded, civilians not allowed to leave the place. Junta is showing signs of frustrations due to lack of advancement into city. National Guard becoming increasingly aggressive towards civilians.

Radicals set the building with innocent people inside on fire in Odessa, then strangled the survivors and finished them with bats, while police did nothing to prevent the bloodshed. That’s the scary picture a survivor of the massacre told RT.

“First of all, nobody expected such cruelty, and secondly, it was too late to escape,” Tatyana Ivananko told RT’s correspondent Alexey Yaroshevsky about the Odessa tragedy on May 2, after which at least 46 people died in flames, when radicals set ablaze the local House of Trade Unions with anti-government protesters trapped inside.

According to the witness, pro-autonomy activists wanted to hide from the radicals by barricading themselves in the building.

“On our way up the stairs, we were taking plywood sheets inside so that we could block the doors and prevent them from getting into the building,” she says.

However, the crowd of pro-government supporters who were trying to enter the building was quickly becoming bigger.

“They were coming from everywhere,” she added.

According to Tatyana, the radicals started hurling Molotov cocktails, after which the first and the third floors of the House of Trade Unions burst into flames.

Tatyana also recalled that the outraged crowd outside was shouting that they wouldn't let anybody out.

“They were also throwing firecrackers, so people in the halls were sitting on the floor, blinded.” She added, “At that moment you realize there is no way to help these people so you'd better rescue yourself.”

Public services such as police and fire brigade were not rushing to rescue the injured people.

“The police were idle not doing anything,” she recalls. “When firefighters arrived it was too late – too many people had already died, even though the closest fire station is 700 meters away from the site.”

According to the numerous videos released in the Internet, many victims of the Odessa massacre received bullet wounds. On some of the videos a man in a bulletproof vest who introduces himself as sotnik Mykola (“sotnik” is what Maidan group leaders in Kiev call themselves) is shooting several times in the direction of the burning House of Trade Unions.

“Have a look at the video,” says Tatyana, pointing to the footage where Micola is pictured. “This armed man in a vest is carrying a gun.”

According to her, the shooting started in Grecheskaya Street, in the north of the city.

Tatyana said that after the pro-government activists managed to enter the burning building, “many people were strangled. I didn’t know how they [pro-government activists] were able to get through the fire but they did,” she added.

She recalled that the radicals “finished off some of the people who managed to escape, and threw from the windows those who didn’t, to kill them on the ground.”

“17-year-old hooligans were finishing people with bats,” she added.

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According to the Ukrainian MIA, the administrative buildings in Sloviansk have been mined by separatists:

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Separatists in Slavic deliver large amounts of explosives to the building of the Security Service , prosecutors, police officers and Executive Committee, according to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine .

" According to locals , the separatists are discussing among themselves that , once the security forces will attack next , administrative buildings in the city will be undermined ," - said the Interior Ministry , referring to the anti-terrorist operation .

According to police , according to local residents , this is done in order to then blame the bombing of the Ukrainian authorities , the script Abkhazia.

The Ukrainian government spends on the east terrorist operation for the purpose of neutralizing armed men who seized government offices, tortured and held hostage dozens of people.

The US and EU have ignored all requests to use their extensive leverage to either have Kiev reign in Right Sector, meaning disarm and disband it as a national security threat.
But the Western powers, having gotten away with using terrorist para-military proxy troops in Syria and other places, has developed a "no fear" policy for their continued use. The underlying problem is the almost blanket diplomatic immunity the politician and government perpetrators have enjoyed.
I have written here a number of times that countries all over the world need to take a new look at diplomatic immunity. One of the carrots driving the close relationship between international crime syndicates and top level political structures is protecting the nasty things they do, crimes against humanity and war crimes charges, by hiding them behind security classifications and then immunity from prosecution.
We at VT have been warning all along that if Right Sector was allowed to operate independently, then it was just a matter of time before a “demonstration massacre” took place, despite the low level of violence so far in East Ukraine.
But one of our concerns has been the Western powers wanted something like this to happen to have the Russians move in so they could then say, "We told you so", and proceed with a major sanctions program. And yes, this is definitely evil enough to do something like that, and a lot more.

Most of us know that no Western government gives a hoot about the Ukrainian people. The West is there to exploit them, pure and simple, exactly what we used to accuse the Soviets of doing.

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I've never seen proof of so many bodies. Whats the count, 40?

I always seem to see photos of the same few bodies. I want proof that many died!

40 + seems like a lot of people to cook, on one floor when the building was probably mostly evacuated.

How can 40+ in a death panic not find a way out of a office floor? Smash through the roof, through the floor, through the windows.. storm that door and break it down..

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: cosmonova

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irrelevant as most of the stuff is taken from this link. Check it out and come back with comments.

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"NATO could envisage a permanent military presence in Eastern Europe."

This, from Le Monde:

The crisis in Ukraine and the tensions with Moscow could lead NATO to envision a permanent military presence in Eastern European member states. "I think that we should consider it," suggested General Phillip Breedlove, commander of the Atlantic Alliance forces in Europe on the sixth of May in Canada.

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Things are not quite working out the way Putin planned.

originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: cosmonova

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Death porn.

a reply to: DutchBigBoy

Yup mostly the majority of NATO bases even when those countries arent part of NATO yet are Black OP bases covert ops bases.

originally posted by: Whereismypassword
You know stu,there is media online here that proves Russia didn't invade and that the west organised this coup and turned a blind eye to the right wing groups firing sniper rifles on the police and their own people

You won't read it,as you don't want too

Not true in the slightest - I have seen and do read them - doesn't mean I have to believe them. RT, for example, has a track record of towing the Kremlin line without question, to the point of out and out lying (see their story of "refugees pouring over the border" and them showing the Polish-Ukraine border two years ago)

originally posted by: Whereismypassword
Suck it up,charming response whipper snapper

Could have been worse - just saying, whether you like it or not is neither here nor there. Either ignore it or suck it up, your choice, it isn't going away because you don't agree with it.

a reply to: cm23

I think it is pertinent "where" you are - it helps get a gauge on whether you have a horse in the race.. Let's face it, many new members (I know you've been around a while) have appeared out of no where towing the Moscow line to the hilt...

Was not any doing of Russia Crimea was a Democratic Vote of 97% population and Russia has always had a Base here ? The war has begun now with what the Fascists Fanatics have carried out upon Russians living in Odessa This was purport rated by the illegal Government of Kiev wait to you read the atrocities committed to these People and then to be Fire Bombed and some Burned alive only to be beaten to death when they jumped from the Building who on gods earth wants to live under such a Regime and USA Blame Russia try looking at their involvement in all this unrest?to not only dispose of the bodies but the Crimes committed and the Police and Fire brigade did Nothing?? reply to: Catacomb

a reply to: cm23

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"Odesa. This will not be shown on Russian TV channels. Because Ukrainians are not people, they are beasts, sadists, and Banderites. That is what you are supposed to think."

[Ukrainian residents in Odesa carry scaffold and help pro-Russian extremists trapped by flames on upper floor of burning House of Trade Unions building get out alive.]

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Hence the need for an independent investigation

a reply to: Xcathdra

TY for showing this! Some humanity after all.