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I did give you a reference, I told you to read the Constitution. The feds say 21 to buy a gun, my state says 18 to own one, some states are pushing for the age to carry to be 18! The Constitution grants the right to own and bare arms. Whats your point exactly...?edit on 1-3-2014 by doompornjunkie because: (no reason given)
18? 21? Seem you agree that these rights are ROUTINELY limited to ADULTS. And those have not been struck down as unconstitutional limits? Can a 5-year old get a permit to carry a gun? No. And I doubt seriously a constitutional argument pushed to ANY court has a chance in hell of reversing that.
Constitutional rights are limited by age. A fact you have already proven, so I need no reference, thank you for that. Now...try again.
hahaha no the Constitution still has no age limits. I had my first gun when I was 4, I just bought my niece her first gun (she is 4) my FFL had no problems doing this knowing the gun was for her. I was just simply stating that other entities are the ones that TRY to make age restrictions. As of yet, there are still no specific limits on free speech or protest. Go back to Russia or something.
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I get what you're saying and agree with you 99.99%. In California and other border States, Mexicans are the indigenous people, it's rude and unpatriotic for anyone to use the American flag in such a manner as to taunt Mexican-Americans on Cinco de Mayo. However I don't agree with the court ruling on this. I think there's a more appropriate way to discipline those kids. Like maybe a 1,000 word essay on the battle, what lead up to it and what resulted from it.
I am outraged! ...I did not read all the comments....
but did read many. I agree with those who contend that if those who celebrate
Cinco de Mayo are offended by USA children (and/or adults) wearing USA flag shirts in the USA AT ANY TIME...
then go the F back to where they came from!
Someone mentioned the Irish. I have never once in my 61 years, heard of any problems occurring because an USA resident wore an USA flag shirt on St. Patty's Day. NEVER!
I absolutely disagree with the Court's decision. NOTHING TRUMPS THE CONSTITUTION. All laws repugnant to the Constitution are in and of themselves null and void! Marbury vs. Madison (The foregoing is in reference to this phrase/statement from the Huffington Post's article about the matter: ..."The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the officials' concerns of racial violence outweighed students' freedom of expression rights..." No, it does NOT outweigh students' freedom of expression!!!!!!).
And Wrabbit, what is the better lesson?
That conflict should result in censorship of offending opinions?
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How bout we can can chant USA all we damn want inside the USA. And if someone doesn't like it they can take their ass to some other place where nobody loves the USA.
Who the hell is anybody to tell someone they can't represent heir own country inside their own country. Imagine if we all decided to go to Italy and on the 4th of July we all insist all the Italian students wear american tshirts and better not have any Italian shirts on in their own damned country or I'm going to whine like a little non functional member of society because nobody will indulge me in my la raza attitude.
You might have something close to a point only no one is insisting that anyone wear Mexican shirts. The question is why would you feel the need to start chanting USA at people participating in Cinco De Mayo festivities? It has already been pointed out several times in this thread that it has primarily been a day celebrated by Mexican Americans since 1862. Is it really that threatening to you that this is something that you must do to validate yourself? The issue isn't American flag T-shirts. The problem is children trying to wrap themselves in pseudo patriotism to specifically incite problems. If you have ever dealt with children for any length of time, one of the first things you would discover is that they will look for and typically find any way they can to make each other miserable without getting in trouble themselves. Unfortunately in this particular case the matter is a bit more inflammatory than most similar issues because of our unaddressed immigration polices and the biases that go with them.
You might have something close to a point only...[t]he question is why would you feel the need to start chanting USA at people participating in Cinco De Mayo festivities?
It has already been pointed out several times in this thread that it has primarily been a day celebrated by Mexican Americans since 1862.
The problem is children trying to wrap themselves in pseudo patriotism to specifically incite problems.
Unfortunately in this particular case the matter is a bit more inflammatory than most similar issues because of our unaddressed immigration polices and the biases that go with them.
Does anyone know why the students want to wear the flag shirts during Cinco De Mayo? There's no reason other than to start some sh## - which is EXACTLY what those students had in mind. Their message is, "Screw you, wetbacks. We don't give a damn about your stupid Mexican holiday." If you think that is not what those students are trying to say with the flag shirts, then you are either very naive or very stupid.
You know what my feeling is? If you are going to hate on Hispanics that much, and if you are going to be allowed to flaunt in their face how much you hate and disrespect them on the ONE day of the year they celebrate their heritage - then you shouldn't be allowed to ever eat Mexican food. It's not your food, it's their food - it came from their country - not from America. If you hate them and their country so much, never eat a taco, burrito or enchilada again. No tortillas for you. No nachos, no margaritas, no tequila. It's not yours - it's theirs.
The Constitution guarantees the right to vote - but NOT to minors.
The Constitution guarantees the right to bear arms - but NOT to minors. The Constitution guarantees the right to privacy - but NOT to minors. And on and on. A child is NOT equal to an adult by no means.