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The JFK Assassination----NASA and USAEC Roles-----50 Years is long Enough

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posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 07:02 PM
Then, what we find in recent times is that people who follow these old histories on Sterling Castle in Scottland appear to have found where the legendary King Arthur lived and the old foundations to what appears for some to be the Round Table.

King Arthur's round table may have been found by archaeologists in Scotland
Archaeologists searching for King Arthur's round table have found a "circular feature" beneath the historic King's Knot in Stirling.


Around 1375 the Scots poet John Barbour said that "the round table" was south of Stirling Castle, and in 1478 William of Worcester told how "King Arthur kept the Round Table at Stirling Castle".
Sir David Lindsay, the 16th century Scottish writer, added to the legend in 1529 when he said that Stirling Castle was home of the "Chapell-royall, park, and Tabyll Round".


The new survey -- funded by Historic Scotland and Stirling City Heritage Trust -- used the latest scientific techniques to showing lost structures and features up to a metre below the ground.

Sterling Castle Arthur

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 07:54 PM
So, as we solve the perversions of history being done by the Roman Empire, we discover that Jesus and his family were really called Essene. The Essene following left the Israel area due to Roman persecutions, and moved into Southern England (Cornwall) and some moved into Southern France via port of Marseilles connected with the Venetian Trade routes. imho

So, the Holy Blood line and the Essene's teachings were spread far and wide. The Knights Templar's discovered the truths, which would make the Vatican's teachings fraud. So, they had to be killed off and that truth tossed out of any public views. This is part of how there is a Templar Degree in the Masons.

So, in the English Island, they get to the tin mines of Cornwall, then Mary Passes and Joseph builds Glastonbury, then the Romans get there, so the run to the North lands of Scotland, the Arthur comes along with all the Essene/Celtic traditions that become the Round Table at Sterling Castle in Scotland. Hence the real issues for why the Masons have interest in the Scottish Rite. imho

Lots of the issues that Gardner has discovered are based upon the actual lineage from those times and their understanding for the history, sans the perversions of the Roman's need to loose the rebel's messages that go against Emperors and Empire:


Precisely when the four main Gospels were written is uncertain. What we do know is that they were first published at various stages in the second half of the first century. They were unanimous initially in telling us that Jesus was a Nazarene. This is actually upheld in the Roman annals; and the first-century chronicles of the Jews and the Bible’s Acts of the Apostles confirm that Jesus’ brother James and St Paul were leaders of the sect of the Nazarenes.

This definition of "Nazarene" is very important to the Grail story because it has been so often misrepresented to suggest that Jesus came from the town of Nazareth. For the past 400 years, English language Gospels have perpetuated the error by wrongly translating "Jesus the Nazarene" as "Jesus of Nazareth". There was no connection between Nazareth and the Nazarenes. In fact, the settlement at Nazareth was established in the AD 60s, thirty years or so after the Crucifixion. Nobody in Jesus’ early life came from Nazareth - it was not there!

The Nazarenes were a liberal, Jewish sect opposed to the strict Hebrew regime of the Pharisees and Sadducees. The Nazarene culture and language were heavily influenced by the philosophers of ancient Greece, and their community supported the concept of equal opportunity for men and women. Documents of the time referred not to Nazareth but to the Nazarene society. Priestesses existed in equal opportunity with priests, but this was so different from what the male-dominated Hebrew society wanted and what the later, male-dominated Roman Church required.

It has to be remembered that Jesus was not a Christian: he was a Nazarene - a radical, westernized Jew.


Even earlier, about AD 195 - one thousand, eight hundred years ago - Bishop Clement of Alexandria made the first known amendment from the Gospel texts. He deleted a substantial section from the Gospel of Mark, written more than a hundred years before that time, and he justified his action in a letter. "For even if they should say something true, one who loves the Truth should not...agree with them... For not all true things are to be said to all men." Interesting. What he meant was that even at that very early stage there was already a discrepancy between what the Gospel writers had written and what the bishops wanted to teach.


To the esoteric Church and the Knights Templars, however, Mary Magdalene was always regarded as a saint. She is still revered as such by many today, but the interesting part about this sainthood, when we think about Grail lore, is that Mary is listed as the patron saint of winegrowers, the guardian of the vine, the guardian of the Holy Grail, the guardian of the sacred bloodline.


Gardener's View Include the Essene Grail

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 08:19 PM
Some other concepts of merit.

How the Templar's came into prominence, and went against Rome's Emperors and Popes.

The hidden Essene progeny.

This book isn't the perfect name all and end all, but it is largely on the track of reality.

And the issues of Germany's Adam Weiskopf from around 1776 appear to be supported by these truths. The Masons want huge wars of destruction to make more money for their patrons. But, if there were no such secrets, then the world would be a better place.

JFK, RFK, and MLK would still be alive and well, and more inspired Essene teachers that saw the Promised Land via using truthful accounts.


Only by removing Jesus from the frontline could the Popes and cardinals reign supreme. When formally instituting Christianity as the state religion of Rome, Constantine declared that "he alone" was the true "Saviour Messiah", not Jesus!. As for the Bishops of Rome (the Popes), they were granted an apostolic descent from St Peter, not a legitimate Desposynic descent from Jesus and his brothers, as was retained within the Nazarene Church.


Notwithstanding the avid sexist movement, the Messianic heirs retained their social positions outside the Roman Church establishment. They progressed their own Nazarene and Celtic Church movements and founded Desposynic kingdoms in Britain and Europe. They were a constant threat to the Roman High Church and to the figurehead monarchs and governments empowered by that Church. They were the very reason for the implementation of the brutal Inquisition because they upheld a moral and social code which was contrary to High Church requirement.

This was especially apparent during the Age of Chivalry, which embraced a respect for womanhood, as exemplified by the Knights Templars whose constitutional oath supported a veneration of "the Grail Mother", Queen Mary Magdalene.

Prior to the Middle Ages, the individual stories of this family were historically well-known. But when the Church began its reign of fanatical persecution (the great Inquisition), the whole Nazarene and Desposynic heritage was forced underground.


But why the vengeful onset of the Inquisition? Because the Knights Templars had not only returned from the Holy Land with documents that undermined the Church’s teachings, but they also established their own Cistercian churches in opposition to Rome. These were not just any churches; they were the greatest religious monuments ever to grace the skylines of the western world: the Notre Dame cathedrals of France.

Despite their present-day image, these impressive Gothic cathedrals had nothing whatever to do with the established Christian Church. They were funded and built by the Knights Templars, and they were dedicated to Mary Magdalene-Notre Dame, Our Lady-whom they called "the Grail of the world".


It was at that time that Grail lore was itself denounced as a heresy by the Vatican. The sixth-century writings of Merlin were expressly banned by the Ecumenical Council, and the original Nazarene Church of Jesus became an "underground stream", aided by such notable sponsors as Leonardo da Vinci and Sandro Botticelli.


But the Templar hoard was not lost, and while the Vatican emissaries were searching, the treasure and documents were locked away in the Chapter House Treasury vaults of Paris. They were under the protection of the Templar Grand Knights of St Anthony, "the Guardian Princes of the Royal Secret", who loaded the hoard one night onto 18 galleys of the Templar fleet at La Rochelle.

By daybreak, the fleet had sailed for Scotland, and on arrival they were welcomed by King Robert the Bruce who, along with the whole Scottish nation, had been excommunicated by the Pope for challenging the Catholic King Edward of England. In Scotland, the Templars and their treasure remained, and the Knights fought with Bruce at Bannockburn in 1314 to regain Scotland’s independence from Plantagenet England.


King Arthur was by no means mythical, as many have supposed. Far from it. But he has generally been looked for in the wrong places. Researchers, misguided by the fictional locations of the romances, have searched in vain through the chronicles of Brittany, Wales and the west of England. But the details of Arthur are to be found in the Scots’ and Irish annals. He was indeed "the High King of the Celtic Isle", and he was the sovereign commander of the British troops in the late sixth century.

Arthur was born in 559, and he died in battle in 603. His mother was Ygerna del Acqs, the daughter of Queen Viviane of Avallon, in descent from Jesus and Mary Magdalene. His father was High King Aedàn of Dalriada (the Western Highlands of Scotland, now called Argyll), and Aedàn was the British Pendragon ("Head Dragon" or "King of Kings") in descent from Jesus’ brother James. It is for this reason that the stories of Arthur and Joseph of Arimathea are so closely entwined in the Grail romances.


Gadner's research on Old Origins of Religon

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 08:41 PM
Now we can discover from the previous source pages that JFK was basically following the ideals of the original Mason's views of church and state for making the Constitution. However, just as the Bible as Corrupted for Constantine to hide Jesus Royal family descendants, the Masons via Albert Pike and other corrupted the truth to support the English Royalists of London. imho

That such did offend the original efforts of the Essene to be servants to others, rather than Lords and Kings over others. imho

We can even discover that the term Britannia stems from the Arab word for Covenant-----and there was a Covenant that chose to hide reality of religion and make themselves Kings, rather than servants to others.

Hence, we find the Essene movement and the real Jesus, and we find the corrupt side of Masons that seek to enrich themselves and the Corrupt religions of Britain and Rome. imho

We’ll be traveling through the Dark Ages then, to spend some time in mediaeval Europe. The Grail mystery will then be followed into King Arthur’s Britain and, eventually, in time, to the United States of America where the American fathers were among the greatest exponents of the Grail Code. Eminent Americans such as George Washington, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Charles Thompson, Thomas Jefferson were as much champions of the Holy Grail as were King Arthur, Sir Lancelot and Galahad.


In mediaeval times, the line of messianic descent was defined by the French word Sangréal. This derived from the two words, Sang Réal, meaning "Blood Royal". This was the Blood Royal of Judah, the kingly line of David which progressed through Jesus and his heirs. In English translation, the definition, Sangréal, became "San Gréal", as in "San" Francisco. When written more fully it was written "Saint Grail", "Saint", of course, relating to "Holy"; and by a natural linguistic process came the more romantically familiar name, "Holy Grail".


In the Arab world, the word used today, as then, to describe Jesus and his followers is Nazara. This is confirmed in the Muslim Koran: Jesus is Nazara; his followers are Nazara. The word means "Keepers" or "Guardians". The full definition is Nazrie ha-Brit, "Keepers of the Covenant". In fact, the Brit aspect of that is the very root of the country name of Britain. Brit-ain means "Covenant-land".

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 09:30 PM
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

There is no base for this thread. The guy is a zealot and Catholic apologist. He is manipulating and even so far to fabricate information to push his agenda; he's hoping this information will cause an emotional reaction strong enough to override intelligent thought and provoke a response that favors his beliefs, his "reality". It's called confirmation bias which leads to biased search, attitude polarization, belief perseverance, irrational primacy effect and illusory correlation.

No one's denied that Buzz was a Mason. He has the standard Scottish Rite ring by the looks of it.

There are bad Masons, they operate as "factions within factions".

I never said there weren't bad apples, every organization has them and we weed them out in their time.
edit on 22-1-2014 by KSigMason because: (no reason given)

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 09:32 PM
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

Hoover was a Mason, but correlation is not causation. Also, do you have the transcripts of those calls? Then it's all conjecture and speculation. Now, I cannot support what he actually did do in his career as I'm against government intrusion and violation of civil rights.

reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

Liars be damned.

reply to post by Nochzwei

He has revealed nothing. He has shown though that he believes the ends justify the means as he is okay with lying (a sin) and manipulating information to spin his story.

reply to post by Nochzwei

He has shown a false aspect.

reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

Masonry does not operate like the Mafia or the CIA. We take obligations, but there is nothing wrong with that. We don't have "secret allegiances"; in fact you are told that these obligations and all things in Freemasonry have no impact on our other duties and allegiances in our lives.

...they are a totally different species of human beings because they are Satanic in design.

No we're not. Satan has no role or place in Freemasonry.

No, he is condemning all Masonry.

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 09:33 PM
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

Lucifer is Latin for "light bearer" so it could apply to Apollo. Lucifer, Biblically speaking, was a disgraced Babylonian king.

reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

Secret handshakes? There's no such thing really in Freemasonry. We don't have handshakes and I find it hilaroius that somehow, every awkwardly taken handshake is construed as "Masonic". It just shows how a little information is a dangerous thing.

It's not "factions within factions". It's just naturally we have men of different beliefs in our group nor are we spying on the "rest of the world".

William Cooper was a nutbag.

reply to post by Nochzwei

Purple arch? Really? Thanks for confirming that you know nothing of Freemasonry, but will mindlessly parrot crap you find on any ol' site.

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 09:52 PM
So, if the Masons were really into beliefs in God, they would have that nice Illuminati Eye sitting on top of a Ziggarat, which is where Abraham grew up in the Sumerian Fertile Crescent Zone of what is now Southern Iraq.

All the early Biblical stories start there from the origin of Abraham and the linage on down to Enoch and Elijah, who just happened to live at the Essene temple area of Mt. Carmel, which was part of Phoenicia. It was also where the zone where the wood came for the temple. Yet, the Essene temple is missing from Mason's Column science or lack there of. imho

So, not just by chance the Essene appear to have captured the more pure history on what all the god stuff came from. From those times we discover the Gods of Anu and one called En.Ki that did the evolution of man.

Even one of the Italian Popes wanted to go visit the City of Ur and walk around the Home of Abraham, which would have done much to call attention to the real origin of religion. imho

In one Pope's visit to the City of Ur, what happens next is the discovery of the Gods of Anu and the Garden of Eden's region. Then the word would find the origin for the God of Abraham and just how they got to here to make those promises. Plus, they would discover those terms of heaven in the sky and much more. They would connect the ancient Egyptian god of Ptah to City of Ur, and the Mason's little temples would all fall down for want to the light of truth. imho

Here is where the Garden of Eden was located, and one of those Eden Rivers was used for the name ( Gihon Spring ) of the Pulsing Spring under the Temple of Solomon is what is now Jerusalem. That spring contained the minerals that sustained the King's Garden in the valley and the drinking water for the walled city and its temple methods.

Yet, we don't see those important issues on the Mason's raising, because they appear to be stuck on the Pyramids of pharaoh that like Slavery and methods of Empire. In Fact, all the Masons appear to teach are methods of subterfuge and making the Royalist Empire for London't bankers. imho

Then consider that if the Catholic Pope visited the City of Ur and put that on the map, that suddenly the Vatican would have much more power of truth over that of Masons, and their Royalists in London that love to keep big secrets, cause wars for Albert Pike's designs for the Royalists and so on.

What would be the truthful message for the origin of God in the Sumerian Lands, appears to be what Masons want to hide even more than the fact that most of the Constantine derived bible is corrupt of the whole story being told on Jesus. imho

If Masons were based on real Character and religion, they would explain the importance of Solomon's temple facing the East is that both the Gihon River of Eden and the City of Ur are directly East. They would also mention the interesting methods of higher sciences such as Solomon's Shamir and other methods for cutting and moving huge stones that the best technology today can't do. imho

Yet, the Masons would rather pretend they have some big secrets to tell you, while the bigger issue is not telling you those things. It is more about examples of illegal hazings, sitting around in a room without windows and asking for light, and a record for destruction in the name for Royalist power of England.

I don't see any overall good qualities in Masons, that appear more designed for insurrections and having the US fall from within. Anyone can read the words of Albert Pike's design for 3 wars and find the all Scottish Rite Masons appear to be about is underwriting that design for Royalist London. imho


After Shulgi's time the fortunes of Ur declined. His sons could not hold on to the empire they inherited, and their city was soon sacked by the Elamites. Ur was then ruled by a succession of foreign kings until the 4th century BC, when the Euphrates river changed its course and the city, lacking irrigation, was abandoned. For the next two thousand years, until 19th-century archaeologists discovered its remains, all knowledge of "the Civilized Land" was completely erased from the memory of mankind...


Ziggrat of Ur



Iraq is tidying up the remains of the ancient city of Ur in hope of a proposed visit by Pope Benedict XVI.

The Antiquities Inspectorate in the Province of Dhi Qar of which Naisiyra is the capital says it has started restoration activities in Ur.

Ur, the metropolitan of the Sumerian civilization that flourished in southern Iraq, is a short drive from Nasiriya.

According to Biblical tradition, Abraham was born and raised in Ur before departing to settle in Palestine.

Generations of archaeologists have excavated the city and the digs have yielded some of the world’s finest artifacts, particularly those salvaged from a royal cemetery.


A visit by the Pope will put Ur and Iraq into international limelight, said Zubaidi.

Iraqi officials say the Pope, who has just ended a historic visit to Lebanon, has accepted an official government invitation to visit Ur, but no date has been set yet.

The officials even said that the Vatican has agreed to spend millions of dollars to rehabilitate Ur in anticipation of the visit.


Pope to Visit City of Ur
edit on 22-1-2014 by MagnumOpus because: Mason temples all lack the light of truth and have eyes wide shut. imho

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 10:14 PM
reply to post by MagnumOpus

And the thing that gets me on operation paperclip, is that we KNOW this. Take into hand the Bush/Nazi family connection, how deep does this rabbit hole truly go?

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 10:18 PM
reply to post by MagnumOpus

I don't care who killed JFK. No proof after all these years and they never will be. Whoever did it did a great job. But that was then. I don't think if it happen today they could cover it up without out a trace. It would be nice to know but really don't care. They won that round.

posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 01:20 AM
reply to post by MagnumOpus

Total and utter round objects. If Arthur existed then he was a vague amalgamated memory of several Romano-British warlords. And there was no round table. That's a medieval myth.

posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 05:04 AM
reply to post by RomeByFire

Yeah, many do know this. Yet, as JFK complained the mass media does not present these issues of secret society issues because many of their leadership are Masons. LIFE Mag was right in the middle of the JFK hit cover up with the Mason Zapruder Film, and they still are with these 50th Anniversary JFK memory books that don't explain the associations of the Camelot theme in the JFK Presidency was all about the Essene Values of King Arthur's Round Table Vs, Those of the Royalist's agenda that seek covet means, power / control, being King over all the lands. imho

How deep is the hole----extremely deep in the US. It is about anarchy being applied to the people for the Mason's alliances gains.

Look at what the Old South Mason's worship via Prince Hall Masonry------Old South Albert Pike Segregation! Do we see any Masons kicking out these corrupt Albert Pike worshiping Masons over keeping up segregation?

Do we see the Law in the US going after the Masons for Hazing in the extreme with swords, hangman's ropes, and guns being used to scare the new recruits into their subjugation. Then to find that those at the top of English Royalists that don't have the Essene Values of Jesus, Nor Arthur of Scotland in mind for their high goals. imho

Look at the shape of the Mason's Old Egypt Great Pyramid and discover its shape exactly matches that of a fluorite Crystal and that fluorite was used as a method to overcome walled cities and expand the Pharaoh's wealth and power. And that same technique of fluorite's power is used against the people of the US. Even the issues of Biblical Moses and the heavy vapors that overcame the Egyptians is an example for that type poison in air methods. The Ark of the Covenant always had secrets, and it is time for all of those to come out.

Even with the NASA astronauts, it appears the Masons wanted to tell the NAZI's Rocket Boys who buttered their bread, and in the times of the NASA it was not the old Prussian Masons, nor the old George Washington Masons that knew the dangers of Modern Mason's allegiance to the English Royals that started WWII via Churchill/Hoover/FDR. imho

posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 05:22 AM
reply to post by jdoors

There is a good deal of information that shows that JFK knew who his enemies were, which is why the Secret Society Speech was directed at those in the US Press who were headed by all too often Masons such and Henry Luce and Company. imho

JFK even nailed their covet means, which is all about the English Royalists want of wealth power and control over others. It isn't about the original theme for King Arthur of Sterling Castle times, the Celts and their Essene associations going back to Mt. Carmel and Egypt's Therapute. imho

When RFK accused LBJ of killing his Brother, RFK full well knew it was LBJ and Mason Hoover that forced LBJ onto the JFK 60s ticket.

When RFK, Jackie and others spoke of the JFK Camelot theme appreciation they were speaking of the values of the old Knights of the Round Table being those of Sterling Castle's Round table, that for the Celts, that which was the Essene teachings from Jesus being their high priest.

JFK's family knew the problem was Masons, that they controlled the Press often with Zionist help. It is easy to see the US was founded upon the truths being made public by Adam Weiskopf of Bavaria, the Illumination that church theology that sprang from Constantine's political goals for Rome were not the truth on Jesus' plight. imho

And the anti-war values and separatist theme that JFK took was based upon lots of time spent in England and Europe that told him via experience there that the Masons were all about want of war, money, power and control and the highest Masons were too often the Kings of English throne loyalty.

So, you may not care----but the 50th Anniversary of the JFK hit shows that many people do care that their country was overcome from within and their games to undermine the values of the US continue today. imho

posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 07:23 AM
It never hurts to learn more about the Masons, and you get to see a lot when one flips through one of their special illustrated King James Bibles. These are huge books, leather bound, and loaded with Mason's imagery. imho

One can see one here with some of the Mason Illustrations in the photos----so click on those and zoom in to read the details:


One has to keep in mind that the KJV uses the Constantine script that omits the issues of the Essene, Celts, and the Scottish Sterling Castle was the home for the Round Table of Scottish King Arthur. Mason KJV also omits the Book of Enoch and such, which Catholics tend to include. But, Masons dropping out the Book of Enoch is serious omission, and key to their intentions to ignore the truth on god /City of Ur/ Creator gods, et al. imho Yet also to ignore the City of UR's connections with the Mt Carmel and Phonecian views that built the temple of Solomon. So, just as Constantine corrupted the truth on religion via omissions, likewise have the Masons moving in support of Royalist Empire. imho

Then, it never hurts to look at other's thoughts on Masons. Keep in mind there are serious issues of Pious truths in all religions, but that the Essenes and Celts valued these original truths on Jesus that allowed servant to others as the rule, rather than domination of others using Royal King methods. imho

The US turned down the King methods, in favor of the separation of church and state, and also appears founded on the same date that Illuminati issues on Masons and the corruption of Religion was founded in Germany's Bavaria by Adam Weiskopf.

The Roman Catholic Church has been among the most persistent critics of Freemasonry. The Church has prohibited its members from being Freemasons since In Eminenti Apostolatus in 1738. Since then, the Vatican has issued several papal bulls banning membership of Catholics from Freemasonry under threat of excommunication. Currently, as reiterated in 1983, Catholics who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion;[2] the penalty of excommunication is not declared in the current code of canon law, but membership remains forbidden.[3]


The Church of Scotland does not ban congregants from becoming Freemasons, but in 1989 the general assembly said there were "very real theological difficulties" with Church of Scotland members being Freemasons.[47]


The 1985 Methodist Conference in England said that Freemasonry competed with Christian beliefs,[48] asking that Methodist Freemasons reconsider their membership and that Masonic meetings be banned from Methodist premises.


Other Religion's views of Masons

edit on 23-1-2014 by MagnumOpus because: Letting the light in to expose the Mason's Dark Temple Secrets that avoid the fullest truths for Royalist Empire. imho

posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 07:44 AM

reply to post by jdoors

There is a good deal of information that shows that JFK knew who his enemies were, which is why the Secret Society Speech was directed at those in the US Press who were headed by all too often Masons such and Henry Luce and Company. imho

Your HO is wrong.
The President and the Press speech was about JFK calling for more secrecy from the press with regards to national security. See also Bay of Pigs invasion.

It's historical fact, it's not up for interpretation.

edit to add:

Context, what an interesting idea!
edit on 23-1-2014 by network dude because: provided the speech which will be ignored by tiny minded fools.

posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 09:22 AM
The most interesting thing to spot as part of the corruptions of the truths and history for Jesus and the Essene is that Jesus was the High Essene Priest, the most knowing, the most Pious. Jesus was never considered God in his time, though the Romans tried to call him King, to justify trying to kill him. imho

The Essene were very into making Heaven on Earth via the pious knowledge of the truths from the City of Ur and the Creator Gods, and Jesus served at the Right Hand for God as a high Essene Priest--so to speak----but never as God.

The big mistakes in Religions are the pursuits of Empires, and the first models of humans calling themselves god came from City of Ur and Babylon in the later times, and the Ziggarats, Towers of Babylon, and Pyramids are their trade marks. imho

The goals of Empires are to claim some significance to god, then their rights to lead and be the Kings. But Jesus never sought to be a King, only the Messiah that provided the simple truths of the Essene from their high Priest leadership.

So, long after Jesus was gone from Jerusalem, the Romans cooked up the theme of Trinity or that Jesus was God. The Islamic / Muslims have the Jesus theme correct by allowing him to be called one of the Great Prophets, which puts down the Trinity Concept. imho

Jesus may have lived in Essene Monasteries referred to Heaven, but Jesus was an Essene Priest and teacher of the Pious truths, and those differed from the Pharisee and Sadducee teachings that derived much of their Talmud from life in Nimrod's Babylon and the methods of corrupt Kings and the Person Nimrod that sold himself as God.

So, if the Roman could label Jesus as god, then the Romans get to sell their idea of Kings being the will of god. Then sell slavery and riches and power held by the few, the Kings. Constantine's Rome just continued the same illusion to keep Emperors in power and avoid the Essene teachings like the plague on the throne. imho

The Masons appear to get into the triangle symbolism and endorse all these Royalist making ideals, but also avoid the Essene's teachings and that Jesus was an Essene Priest, and not god.

When we get to the times of King Arthur, this was a distributed concept of power from the council of knights of the realm. But, just ahead of the times of Scottish King Arthur came the move of Mary and Joseph into the Cornwall area of England, where the tin mines were located. Then, when Mary passed the making of the Glastonbury Church in the Wales / Welch area on the West. Then as Rome invaded those remaining moved into Scotland are of the North. imho

Then King Author emerges with the Round Table that is more along the lines of Democracy. But, as we learned in the US the concepts for Democracy are easily eroded via money used to gain loyalty to those other than the American / We The People. The old idea that Money Corrupts Absolutely is highly proven from the US Elect, that get elected by Royalist's Corporation political funds and news.

JFK envisioned himself and his presidency as more aligned with the King Author concepts handed down from the Essene / Celts / Author / The Camelot Concepts of old. imho

In the Masons, these ideas all clash against the reality of the Essene. The Masons make every swear oaths to protect their Members and their highest Members that make all the decisions are Royalists from England. So, the Masons gain those loyal to the Royalists of Europe that dislike any of the truths on Jesus as the Essene High Priest. So, the Masons subscribe to the King James Bible that gave praise to the Roman Empire's methods to pervert the Jesus story so they could make Nimrod gods that didn't exist in the Pious Jesus as an Essene.

So, now everyone can sort out what drives the issues to remake Jesus into god in the times after the Essene left Jerusalem. The Masons religion served the methods of Albert Pike well, as he sought to win the Civil War via its continuation, and to apply three great wars to destroy principle religion's massive errors, then declare themselves as Kings.

But, as the world digs out the truth on Masons and their high leadership, they find Royalist London, not the real Jesus, not the real issues of the Scottish Rite, and the methods of Rome's Empire making. imho

posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 09:33 AM
reply to post by MagnumOpus

Who is/was King Author? Did he write the Bible?

What does Jesus have to do with JFK's death?

Do you even know what your point is?

edit to add:

Using a known hoax to perpetuate more lies? Why thats way more than disingenuous, its dishonest. Does Jesus Christ approve of lies?
edit on 23-1-2014 by network dude because: pointed out that the OP is full of things that float, stink, and rhyme with word.

edit on 23-1-2014 by network dude because: (no reason given)

posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 11:13 AM
The Pope John Paul II aimed for an Iraq visit in 1999-2000 times to walk in the footsteps of Abraham-----but then war and health gets in the way. John Paul II resisted the Bush wars on Iraq.

One can still see that the Pope is not thinking of religion issues very accurately, as Moses Mtn. was not in the Sinai, but over in Saudi Arabia near the City of Midian. So, even as this Pope sought to expose some of the importance for Sumeria and the City of Ur, they still screw up the Moses story due to the times of Constantine misdirection on Moses Mtn.

In recent time, Pope Benedict XVI has sought to do what John Paul II did in plans to visit the City of Ur.

The Bush Iraq war destroyed a lot of things from the antiquity museum, and stolen items like Baghdad Battery were lost, and other treasures of history. And it appears one of the reasons was to keep the former Pope from making the City of Ur more recognized, which would highly affect the Royalist's claims to rule, if followed to Essene teachings and Jesus.


John Paul II's most ambitious tour has been years in the planning but cloaked in secrecy because of political sensitivities in the Middle East.

It will take him to some of the world's most volatile and politically tense areas.


The Pope revealed his plans in a 17-page document released by the Vatican this week. He wrote: "I have a strong desire to go personally to pray in the most important places which, from the Old to the New Testament, have seen God's intervention."

Other biblical sites he has selected include Mount Sinai in Egypt, where Moses received the Ten Commandments; Jesus's birthplace in Bethlehem; Nazareth, where Jesus grew up; and Jerusalem, the centre of Judaism, Christianity and Islam and the place of Jesus's crucifixion.


Two months ago the Pope was visited by the Chaldean Catholic patriarch of Iraq, Raphael Bidawid. About 3% of Iraq's population is Christian and the Pope is a popular figure, thanks to his stand against the Gulf war and opposition to United Nations sanctions against the country. Yesterday the newspaper Babel extended a warm welcome in anticipation of his visit.

In a recent interview Mr Bidawid said he was confident that the Pope would come to Iraq in the autumn and that the Iraqi government would not seek to exploit the visit for political ends.


If President Saddam Hussein wanted to welcome the Pope, he said, the Pope would not hesitate to meet him and shake his hand.

The Pope is determined to visit Ur because it was there that God first spoke to Abraham, inviting him to become the patriarch of His chosen people, the Jews.

Abraham was promised descendants as countless as the stars in the heavens and the land of Canaan - part of which is modern-day Israel - as his children's inheritance.


Pope John Paul II City of Ur Aim

posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 01:41 PM

One has to keep in mind that the KJV uses the Constantine script that omits the issues of the Essene, Celts, and the Scottish Sterling Castle was the home for the Round Table of Scottish King Arthur. Mason KJV also omits the Book of Enoch and such, which Catholics tend to include. But, Masons dropping out the Book of Enoch is serious omission, and key to their intentions to ignore the truth on god /City of Ur/ Creator gods, et al. imho Yet also to ignore the City of UR's connections with the Mt Carmel and Phonecian views that built the temple of Solomon. So, just as Constantine corrupted the truth on religion via omissions, likewise have the Masons moving in support of Royalist Empire. imho

edit on 23-1-2014 by MagnumOpus because: Letting the light in to expose the Mason's Dark Temple Secrets that avoid the fullest truths for Royalist Empire. imho

More utter round objects. You know nothing about this subject and are now desperately thrashing around. King Arthur was not Scottish. At the time of King Arthur, or at least at the time of the Fifth-Sixth Century the Scotti were still in or migrating up from Hibernia. Ireland in other words. Arthur (if he existed) was a Romano Briton, possibly from Yr Hen Ogledd and possibly not.
You've also brought the Essenes into things. Good luck with that, as far as I was aware they'd long since been wiped out by the time that Roman rule in Britain ended.

posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 02:33 PM
reply to post by AngryCymraeg

And in response to that, He shall post paragraph after paragraph of utter tripe and mention how evil masons are every third paragraph.
(I just saved him some time)

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