WAR: CARE Worker Margaret Hassan Executed

Well then #-it dh and Muaddib. Let's not try to have decency and respect in a single thread for a steward. Let's not take the extra 2 seconds to start a thread on the bashing of the U.S. foreign policy or the Islamic extremism. Let's piss all over a thread about this woman's life ending.

Neither of you have considered that what was taken from this woman was the one thing in this life that we can never take back, earn back, regret, or live through...her life. There is no more on this earth. Irrespective of your spiritual beliefs, this woman's experience as a corporeal human being is finished, with no recall.

Arguing your "positions" in this is so base, so valueless and so disrespectful. This is not a matter of "PC"...this is a matter of wanton animalism versus humanism.

Well get after it homies...may the best neanderthal win....in the name of a good woman, with a good heart.

[edit on 11-16-2004 by Valhall]

Originally posted by IMMORTAL

Sorry, but...

That is the funniest thing I've read all day. Take a look out your windows. Do you see any soldiers fighting or planes dropping bombs? If you don't, then what you just said is false.

Take a look at the U.S policies at the moment. The only people waging wars against whole nations is the U.S Government, and its sponsor Governments.

Oh yeah, I forgot...the wars radical muslims are fighting in Algeria, indonesia, India-Pakistan, Nigeria, Sudan, and the Philippines to name a few, are not happening as we speak...

[edit on 16-11-2004 by Muaddib]

I think I'm with Valhall on this one. Right now, all we know about this case is that this woman died. Period. I don't care who killed her, I mourn the woman.

Originally posted by Valhall
Well then #-it dh and Muaddib. Let's piss all over a thread about this woman's life ending.

Umm er - I think I said her life was taken to help justify the present chaos - ordo ab chao - the freemason's chant
This was in no way detrimental to the Lady
Just a little hard-working and very brave person sacrificed to the globalist plan
Don't try to distort my view for a moment
Yes - I'll dig for Margaret
And yes - the globalist bastards did for her

Cry my hated Country

Lets get the heck out of there, hand them back their country and watch them kill each other like they have for so many years.

May not be the smartest political move, but it will sure as hell save a lot of American lives.
We went there because of the oil. I'd rather buy a horse and have some peace.

ps..i make my own candles...

It all goes to show exactly what the world is facing here with the jihad terrorists of Iraq...the cowardice of executing a defenseless woman, a woman who served the poor and less fortunate at that. It also demonstrates the unbound & deep hatred of westerners- this has rapidly becoming a war of without boundaries to cruelty. What's next?

I don't understand why Al-Jazeera keeps playing the video of the American soldier killing the wounded insurgent but somehow won't play the video of the 30-year aid worker Hassan getting brutality executed. PLAY IT.

These people (those who killed Hassan) are SAVAGES. They are ANIMALS. Worthless pieces of garbage.

Glass time.

My heart and prayers go out to her family and friends. And my anger is directed at the cowards who have her taken her life. I can only hope they suffer when they pass to the other side, because what comes around goes around. I have read all the post written and no matter what has been said this woman did alot for the Iraqi people and did not deserve to die this way. NO matter who is to blame for starting this war! Only a coward can do this to an innocent civilian, whether it is a man, woman or child.

This is truely an atrophy in touting a 'civilized' atmosphere for the young ones of Iraq. These terrorists should have thought about the pyschological ramnifications this would have on younger generations.But, at the same time, we have not done any better...

Deep

Originally posted by marg6043
When the first behedings started I said that civilians should not be allowed to be in iraq until is safe for them to be there, but obviously somebody in our government does not feel the same, so I blame the people that is allowing these civilians to Iraq, and not giving them the proper security due to the chaos in that country, they should be prosecuted for these killings.

Of course! It's not the terrorists'/Muslim fanatics'/Iraqi insurgents' faults... it's the fault of the U.S. government for "allowing" American and other countries' civilians to freely work in Iraq...

You know whose fault it is? The people who kidnapped and killed this poor woman are the ones at fault. If they're not dead already, I hope they are killed by U.S. or Iraqi troops...

Originally posted by cstyle226
The terrorists who kidnapped her were asked by Al-Zarqawi to release her.

And the Mujahideen asked the terrorists to free her, but they are obviously barbarians, and did not.

Anyone who kills women deserves the worst punishment possible. I hope they are captured or blown away as quickly as possible.


[edit on 16-11-2004 by cstyle226]

What about the men that were beheaded don;t the they also deserve worst punishment. It makes me sick, women's lives have more value then men's.

Originally posted by Dr Love
Look, I feel for this woman's family just like everybody else, but the fact of the matter is that they thought she was a spy. Maybe she was caught doing something that she shouldn't have been doing. Nobody in our government, or any other for that matter, would ever divulge that information. War is so cruel and nobody is safe. As far as feeling sorry for these people that are being beheaded, I'm not. These people had to know the risks going in and still all they saw were dollar signs. Some will say that they have families to feed and that's why they went to Iraq. What good are those that have been beheaded to their families now. It's only going to get worse. We had our chance to possibly change the direction that our reckless President is taking us, and we blew it. I feel betrayed by my country and am unsure about our future.

Peace

I just have to ask, how can you use a name like "Dr Love" and be so heartless? This woman worked in Iraq for many years before the war. She worked for the poor and the destitute, not for the money. Do you seriously think that the Iraqi citizens from the hospital she helped rebuild would protest her kidnapping in the streets if she was doing it for the cash?? This was a women that lived the kind of life that Jesus or Mohammed or any other religious figure would ask of us all. This was a crime against the Almighty. True Evil.

Originally posted by Valhall

Neither of you have considered that what was taken from this woman was the one thing in this life that we can never take back, earn back, regret, or live through...her life. There is no more on this earth. Irrespective of your spiritual beliefs, this woman's experience as a corporeal human being is finished, with no recall.

Why in the fricken world do you think I am so mad about this?.....because this woman, just like many others like her keep dying like this for no real purpose.... Don't give me that bs about the war...murders like this one have happened over there even before this war... I am not the one that denigrated the "life" of this woman, or her death....Her killers did...but perhaps in your own "political correctness" you are not seeing this....

The only thing we can do right now is trying to make certain, murders like this don't happen again, at least just try.... because it is true we can't do anything to bring her back to life...

I do not appreciate you trying to put me at the same level as these murderers Valhall...perhaps you haven't noticed that she was killed by these bastards, I didn't do it. If it was possible I would have tried to save her even knowing that I could die.... you don't know enough about me Valhall...so keep your condescending tone for those who deserve it and don't try to put blame on me now for something I did not do...


[edit on 17-11-2004 by Muaddib]

Originally posted by Thinker
What about the men that were beheaded don;t the they also deserve worst punishment. It makes me sick, women's lives have more value then men's.

Did you see a woman behind mask beheading someone else?

That is why.

Surf

I am not surprised many ignored my expose of the US's role in this. It was expected though.

I hear you Indigo_Child. Look people, I'm not heartless. I feel for all the people that have died in this ridiculous war (I really have a hard time calling this a war), it's more like someone's (the powers that be) unilateral agenda. You want to know who I really feel sorry for, OUR TROOPS!!! I wish that the American people could really get some real feedback (uncensored by the government) from the soldiers. I think that most of us would be quite surprised by what we hear. Join the army, go to college on us, but first go fight an unnecessary war and pray you dont get your limbs blown off by an IED or blown away by a suicide bomber. Give me a break!!!! After all that has happened, these men and women have got to start wondering if this is all worth it. Hey Dubya, this is not WWII. You are not Roosevelt or Truman. Hey Dubya, this is not even Vietnam. At least we could say that we were fighting the spread of communism there. Hey Dubya, this war is a joke. Hey Dubya, I know you don't care about Osama Bin Laden, but most of the American people do. Hey Dubya, thanks for the memories. Hey Dubya, these are not toy soldiers you're using, they're real people with real families. Hey Dubya, you're disgracing the memories of the 9/11 victims by not going after Bin Laden. Thank God this is your last term.

Peace out

Such short memories ! I don't agree with the reason for Bush going into Iraq however I'm neither forgetful nor naive. Prior to the coalition going in there was terrorist organisation in Iraq led by Saddam Hussein. He was a terrorist because of the way he ruled his country...by terror. Killing people who got in his way even it was his own family. More people have died at the hands of his regime in his own country than by the US troops. In fact more people are alive today that would have been had Saddam still been in power.

Every nation on this earth has people who like to kick the # out people for fun (even the US and Europe...think about !). Some pretend to be following a cause and fool the naive into believing them. Some invent reasons for killing their victim "he/she was a spy" etc etc. All these "insurgents" kept their head down for 20 years because they would have ended up dead. Even if Saddam Hussein had been removed from power without the US the current fighting would be going as the various power hungry groups vie for control.

The current "resistance" has nothing to do with freeing Iraq but about the removal of the US/UK troops so that these power hungry groups can control the people without the troops getting in their way. The last thing they want is elections.

This is seriousely SAD news.I deplore the men who did this attrocity and there are no Butts...


These are very worrying times for all of us.Is there anything We Can Do to stop this War??...Like Cherac said "The War has'bt made the World Or the region for that matter any Safer."

What would it take to end this Mess??

Originally posted by Montana

Originally posted by dh
Hmmmm - you seem to be repeating a westernised constructed viewpoint of Muslim radicals as mad and bad

Perhaps you could enlighten us as just what the Muslim radicals have done that WASN'T 'mad and bad'? I can't think of anything but then i'm a westerner so i'm 'blind', I suppose.

I'm serious, though. Give us some instances of when the muslim radicals have been reasonable and good to compare with what they are doing now.

Well you said it yourself "they are Radicals." What possible example of 'GOOD' do you expect to hear...

In political science, the label "radical" denotes "one who desires extreme change of all or part of the social order." (Britannica Deluxe CD2000). The term is said to have been used by the English parliamentarian Charles Fox who, in 1797, demanded a "radical reform" of the electoral system amounting to universal male suffrage. It was thenceforth applied to any who lobbied for electoral reform.

The passage of the Reform Act of 1867 gave the vote even to workers and the Radicals, having been strenuous in their efforts on behalf of the working classes, thereby earned a deeply loyal following; British trade unionists from 1874 until 1892, upon being elected to Parliament, never considered themselves to be anything other than Radicals.

English Radicals derived much of their ideas from 'philosophical radicals', particularly John Stuart Mill who held that right actions were to be measured in proportion to the greatest good they achieved for the greatest number.

Likewise, in France, radicalism meant support for democratic ideals - in this case, republicanism. The republicans called themselves radicals, espousing anything other than a constitutional monarchy being (in theory, at least) illegal. But, a breakaway group, envisioning themselves as heirs to 1789, began calling themselves Radicals, forming the Radical-Socialist party just before the turn of the century.

Just look at what these pigs are doing to the Iraqi people. Look how we are getting angry at the beheading of Margaret. What do you think they feel when they hear little chidren and women are being molested by troops. As sickened as we are by their beheadings. As I said, there is only culprit, and he is their culprit too, and that is the Bush adminstration, who is only a pawn of a more sinister shadow government.

People, wake up for gods sake, your soliders are in Iraq, slaughtering thousands of men, women and children, and molesting and humilating them, and here you are decrying the beheading of a woman as evil; what a bunch of hypocrits.

You're wrong.

When we catch our own committing such acts, they are no better than the terrorists.

The difference is, we actually PROSECUTE them, and make them accountable for their actions when this occurs.

They CELEBRATE their actions to the world.

THAT is the difference here. Evil humans can be on both sides of a conflict. It's how that side reacts to such evil, that determines which has the moral high ground. I would fully expect that any such US personnel guilty of the acts you cited, to be fully prosecuted to the extent of the law for such actions.