So the Banksters and Globalists WON in Australia.

Abbot is under influence of the Jesuit Order, just as is the Papacy. Some (unverified) quotes on this order of men...just food for thought and with escalating war on the horizon, it all adds veracity to what the leaders will support in investment.

“My history of the Jesuits is not eloquently written, but it is supported by unquestionable authorities, [and] is very particular and very horrible. Their [the Jesuit Order’s] restoration [in 1814 by Pope Pius VII] is indeed a step toward darkness, cruelty, despotism, [and] death. … I do not like the appearance of the Jesuits. If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell, it is this Society of [Ignatius de] Loyola.”
John Adams (1735-1826; 2nd President of the United States)

“It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country – the United States of America – are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated MOST of the wars of Europe.”
Marquis de LaFayette (1757-1834; French statesman and general. He served in the American Continental Army under the command of General George Washington during the American Revolutionary War.)

“The war [i.e., the American Civil War of 1861-1865] would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits.”
Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865; 16th President of the United States)

“The Jesuits…are a secret society – a sort of Masonic order – with superadded features of revolting odiousness, and a thousand times more dangerous.” – Samuel Morse (1791-1872; American inventor of the telegraph; author of the book Foreign Conspiracy Against the Liberties of the United States)

“[The Jesuits] are the deadly enemies of civil and religious liberty.”
R. W. Thompson (Ex-Secretary, American Navy)

“The Jesuits are a MILITARY organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is power – power in its most despotic exercise – absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man [i.e., the Black Pope, the Superior General of the Jesuits]. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms [sic] – and at the same time the greatest and most enormous of abuses…”
Napoleon I (i.e., Napoleon Bonaparte; 1769-1821; emperor of the French)
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We had no real options. Rudd is a globalist useful idiot. I voted against labor not for liberal. I doubt the libs will do a worse job than labor but nothing surprises me anymore.

I know Abbott's probably bought and paid for but Rudd is despicable and I could not in good conscience give him my vote.

This election was a big FU to the socialist agenda and a big FU to carbon lies. Labor lost this election cause they lost the faith of the people. A retarded monkey could have won if they were running against labor.

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"If your young and dont vote socialist you have no heart, if your mature and dont vote conservative, you have no smart!"


Many in this thread must obviously be young people because if you dont beleive Australia need Abbott now then you do not understand how sorry the office of priministership had become under Labor.

Abott is a family man, a religious man, a man with values and a man who has proven himself in opposition the last 6 years.


Like former Prime Minister Howard was ridiculed the first time he had a tilt at the leadership position in the late 80's yet became one of our greatest PM's 10 years later. Abott will do the same.

Dont complain that he got in office, he did it on his merits, and Labor could not do enough to suicide themselves.

The worst Socialist 2 terms of government we have ever had. Thats a fact those that understand politics will agree with....it was horrendous, a disaster and a mess.

Lets look towards a brighter future.

Remember: No Socialist/Labor government has ever left office with the budget in surplus....it shows the entrenched culture of wasting money to buy votes.

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I'm not that young ;-j and run my own company, but vehemently disagree that we needed Abbott... we really don't need to perpetuate (or perpetrate for that matter) the "two party preferred" system. It's a complete joke. Liberal/Labour, Republican/Democrat... this is not the way to run the world... in opposition with itself? That's absolute madness!

He did not get in on his merits... he got in on Murdoch's relentless free advertising in favour of him... big money likes a two party system... it reduces risk by bringing any decision down to a 50/50 chance... best odds when you're gambling with the world.

i guess this means you wont be getting your guns back anytime in the near future?

Thats not a surprise at all, they're taking over everything.

Has anyone considered, that the Labour Party didn't want RUDD either? Think about this....Gillard was a disaster, they knew they had no chance at the polls with Gillard as leader. Who then to take over the top job, I can only imagine the responses of other cabinet members< I don't want the job, fk that, it's political suicide. I know, lets offer the job to the egotistical K, Rudd. We can get rid of him at the election in the process. Of course, K.R said yes he couldn't help himself.
Now remember his colleagues couldn't stand the prick when he was in the job.....

I have heard mentioned in another thread that Obananas listens to no one, his opinion is far superior to anyone else's, in his own delusional mind. That is K.Rudd to the letter.

No people Australia is not fked because liberals got in. SOUR GRAPES from someone who voted wikileaks.

Originally posted by keenasbro
Has anyone considered, that the Labour Party didn't want RUDD either? Think about this....Gillard was a disaster, they knew they had no chance at the polls with Gillard as leader. Who then to take over the top job, I can only imagine the responses of other cabinet members< I don't want the job, fk that, it's political suicide. I know, lets offer the job to the egotistical K, Rudd. We can get rid of him at the election in the process. Of course, K.R said yes he couldn't help himself.
Now remember his colleagues couldn't stand the prick when he was in the job.....

I have heard mentioned in another thread that Obananas listens to no one, his opinion is far superior to anyone else's, in his own delusional mind. That is K.Rudd to the letter.

No people Australia is not fked because liberals got in. SOUR GRAPES from someone who voted wikileaks.

Not sour grapes maybe if you pay attention to Abbots babble, He makes it up and makes utter nonsense as he goes. So no sour grapes I don't like the shifty man.

I just find the whole thing to be so depressing.

The hangover this morning was ripping, seeing all the headlines in the paper about this win just amuse me though. I think that once he starts implementing policy Australia will realize what's going on and take this guy down. Maybe some good could come from this...

Hopefully having someone like him in power will expose the agenda a bit more...

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He didn't get into office on his merits. He got into office because the media Murdochhounded labor into submission and convinced selfish and ignorant people to vote for him. It was a set up. And who ever said John Howard was good? He took us to Iraq dude.

Opinions like yours I just find baffling. How do you actually believe what you are saying?

Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
"If your young and dont vote socialist you have no heart, if your mature and dont vote conservative, you have no smart!"


Many in this thread must obviously be young people because if you dont beleive Australia need Abbott now then you do not understand how sorry the office of priministership had become under Labor.

Abott is a family man, a religious man, a man with values and a man who has proven himself in opposition the last 6 years.


Like former Prime Minister Howard was ridiculed the first time he had a tilt at the leadership position in the late 80's yet became one of our greatest PM's 10 years later. Abott will do the same.

Dont complain that he got in office, he did it on his merits, and Labor could not do enough to suicide themselves.

The worst Socialist 2 terms of government we have ever had. Thats a fact those that understand politics will agree with....it was horrendous, a disaster and a mess.

Lets look towards a brighter future.

Remember: No Socialist/Labor government has ever left office with the budget in surplus....it shows the entrenched culture of wasting money to buy votes.

Read that about Howard how was he a good PM when he had to sell assets
Here is the link to my post you obviously missed it.

to all the ats members not in australia...here are the facts.

the labor party (kevin rudd as prime minister) last night received their lowest vote ever.

tony abbott is the prime minister of australia and the smell of stability is everywhere this morning

the sore losers are that delusional and can absolutely not accept that the majority of australians are smart enough to give the arse to a party who has caused chaos for six years.

most of my family and friends never read a murdoch paper and to think he could tell the majority who too vote for and THAT you actually think they would listen is insane.

last but not least...if you are really that pissed off and cant accept the umpires decission...i hear there will soon be boats LEAVING christmas island and going TOO indonesia you might want to pack your bags and jump on board.

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder

Originally posted by AlphaHawk
reply to post by ChaoticOrder

 

It's been a no brainer since the first election was announced by Gillard.

I don't exactly think it was a no brainier, the actions of most people are heavily influenced by their emotions and personal feelings and they don't think far enough to take into consideration that he has to answer to a whole cabinet, they just don't vote for him because they don't personally like him. But then again I have never once voted because I see it as a rigged and pointless game, so I'm not exactly an expert on Australian politics. I probably know more about American politics to be honest due to the fact it's discussed so much on ATS.

edit on 7/9/2013 by ChaoticOrder because: (no reason given)

You'd not see much difference between Australian and US political games these days. We suddenly have red and blue west Wing style seat races and US only media pushing US style campaigning, its a presidential race being forced on us, not a polling day for communities anymore. We are a US proxy state. The last safe haven of devils. Its not just our government that has changed its the entire process that has been altered. Without a referendum we've been turned into a republic that wears a fake hat of democratic process just like the US.

I personally find myself heavily influenced by a desire to eat and find a safe place to sleep.I am a disabled woman, who has raised a good son and despite doing everything right, the state benefit we depend on for food utilities medication and rent, will now be removed from me under Abbots new points system and Australians overwhelming acceptance of his attitudes towards any that need help as being bludgers and breeders.
Due to no fault of our own, we have quietly lived below the poverty line all our lives, accepting in gratitude whatever was given to help us, and using that in combination with our own hard work and effort to survive in this world. Now that help is going, we will be homeless very soon. I am, my promising child will be, strangers and IDP's in our own country, a country my grandfather brother and father all died in war to preserve. My bug out bag has now become my only lifeline and the cheap car I paid off over 4 years is soon to be my home. Soon I will join the many thousands already sleeping rough and I count myself lucky to even have a car to sleep in at all. Parents with kids are already sleeping in churches, in cars and in tents here after they reduced the sole parents payment from an amount on, to under the poverty line. 13K plus children have been sleeping rough these past two years, kids that never used to, that had homes and hard working mums. This in the most robust economy on earth.

And its not just single mums and dads - 68% of whom work btw and pay taxes too, over 1.4 million families (two parent and single, working or unable to work) at last count are in need of critical of assistance right now with a further 4 million on the edge. What will happen when he starts cutting penalty rates and millions join us? Its these people as much as ' my kind' who have now have lost their only hope. Rudd was a turd but he had offered hope, yet under Abbot, there simply is no hope, we have devolved and every civil right fought for since 1970 is now gone or up for reinterpretation under a right wing fascist idiocracy.

Australia has willfully elected a racist, a billionaire and a misogynistic, climate change denying, woman's rights hating, pedo apologist, intellectual retard for PM/president and in one swoop has turned us from a nation of good people interacting compassionately and moderately in the world on a platform of social justice and reason, into a quivering reactionary racist classist protectionist state or as UK's Cameron calls us " A center right led Anglo-sphere'. This is the same Cameron who recently told people working two jobs who still cant afford their rent to ' work harder' or loose any governmental support entirely. Class and race war is coming to Australia, very very quickly. It wont be long. As soon as he cuts the penalty rates, axes teachers, stops funding for aged care and tosses out other civil programs,they will be 'here' too and just as disillusioned.

I have tired to have faith in simple things, in God, in peoples basic goodness. It is clear now though, I was misguided. I was a fool. It wasn't just the labor government that was defeated last night, it was our nation as a people who have given into their bigotry, greed and fear. I won't have internet connection for much longer, this few hours I had was paid for by the government so I could take an online uni course and try and skill up. I can't afford that now. I will log in from libraries if I can get to them but I had to speak before I left and at least leave a note to say I existed at all. Australia shamed itself last night. It embraced the madness instead of rising above it. Australians had a choice. They chose wrong. WE is no more..its me me me....just like 'them'. I have to say that I am considering euthanasia at this time so I dont burden my son. It is that bad and I am not the only one.

As for the poster above me's comments. All I can say is , stability for whom?
You are wrong and I hope that you never have to reap in full what you are sowing when you judge people based on your own small minded greed and shortsightedness. I survived abuses, rape, disinterest, physical and mental challenges forced on me by the 'good society' people who did the abusing. I survived all of that to pick myself out of the gutter and gain a degree and though I am unable to work any longer due to failing health, I earned it myself. My child has represented his state twice in his sport and gets high marks at school, he had a future, one now at risk, he had the chance to contribute and participate in society without prejudice, now he will be judged only through those socioeconomic glasses and cease to be a human survival story at all.

Neither of us drink smoke or gamble, we do not waste. Every cent we were given was used properly, wisely to keep us in private rental and in food and clothing, to keep from from taking up a hospital bed and being a burden to the system. That small amount of money 'you' say you gave us, helped us find dignity in a world that has forgotten that dignity is important to prosperity, that has forgotten we had a human right to live, equal to you own.

We were proof the system of helping others up was really working, that children could be and were being raised properly even under the toughest of social and personal conditions. You dont want to see that, in your preference to view us only as scum.

My child and I, are only two of many millions who contributed to the income of the nation in our careful buying,and pending habits, we have earned our self respect. We are not loosers, we are successes, and we are human beings just like you, in fact, we are better human beings than you, because we dont hate like you do.
Every penny of what was given to us went back into the system, back into the economy and into tax, a system and tax pool you rely upon as much as we did. Don't you get that? There WAS no waste. Only gains. Even if a woman bought tv's smoked drugs and drank piss all day and was the worst of parents - the money STILL went back into the system, into YOUR pocket eventually as wages, tax breaks or returns, in social services that kept 'scum' from your front lawn. Do comeback and let people here know in a few months just how good a reductionist economy will be for you and when shtf, dont DARE, complain to people like me how hard you have it.

Goodbye.

Originally posted by Kali74
My understanding is that Murdoch controlled the entire media throughout the campaign. That man, ugh... a total crapstain on humanity. Sorry Australia. :/

Well I never once saw any of Murdoch's propaganda, but then again I never really read mainstream newspapers here in Australia, nor do I often watch the mainstream news here. But I will tell you one thing, I saw way more complaining against Abbott than I saw support for him. The Labor party sent me at least 5 different pamphlets in my mailbox with a picture of Abbott making an evil face and a list of all the bad things he would do (the list was highly exaggerated and over generalized by the way). Even as I was surfing the internet I saw seeing advertisements about how evil Abbott was. To be honest it felt a bit like propaganda, it was coming from all over the place and I couldn't get away from it. That's why I'm so surprised that the coalition won by such a huge landslide, I was expecting the campaigning against Abbott to have a much deeper impact than it did.

The whole reason Abbot got into the big seat is...

humans are stupid.... are you freaking serious?
3 months ago abbott was the most unlikeable man in australian politics.
enter rupert murdoch with his media campaign to demonize rudd, this campaign was brutal, everything from front pages of rudd photoshopped up as a nazi to news pieces about his polls dropping. we got bombarded with this crap for 3 straight months. at the end of this people got so scared of rudd they just voted for the other guy.
humans arent stupid we are being manipulated.

watch this australian political ad below, it got banned cause it calls murdoch out on owning everything and manipulating politics for his own agenda. banned ad
i'm not butthurt because my guy lost, i didnt vote for rudd. i think politics is broken here. i actually voted for wikileaks. i just hate it when people with money buy their way

Originally posted by bellagirl
to all the ats members not in australia...here are the facts.

the labor party (kevin rudd as prime minister) last night received their lowest vote ever.

tony abbott is the prime minister of australia and the smell of stability is everywhere this morning

the sore losers are that delusional and can absolutely not accept that the majority of australians are smart enough to give the arse to a party who has caused chaos for six years.

most of my family and friends never read a murdoch paper and to think he could tell the majority who too vote for and THAT you actually think they would listen is insane.

last but not least...if you are really that pissed off and cant accept the umpires decission...i hear there will soon be boats LEAVING christmas island and going TOO indonesia you might want to pack your bags and jump on board.

Enjoy your sexiest pig PM, Studdering PM the world is laughing now.

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And its not just single mums and dads, over 1.4 million families (two parent and single, working or unable to work) at last count are in need of critical of assistance right now with a further 4 million on the edge. What will happen when he starts cutting penalty rates and millions join us? Its these people as much as ' my kind' who have now have lost their only hope. Rudd was a turd but he had offered hope, yet under Abbot, there simply is no hope, we have devolved and every civil right fought for since 1970 is now gone or up for reinterpretation under a right wing fascist idiocracy.


This hasnt happened in the last 20 hours. this has happened under 6 years of labor government.

Australia has willfully elected a racist, a billionaire and a misogynistic, climate change denying, woman's rights hating, pedo apologist, intellectual retard for PM/president

what a horrible thing to say. absolutely none of this true. you are now just being very bitter.


dont give up hope. if things have become this bad for you under labor you never know things may actually improve. my heart goes out to you as you are someone just like me trying to do their best with their lot in life. take a break from the media/internet.

i work in a hospital and worry about the tone/content of your post. dont ever give up hope. you can always PM me and i can try to assist you in anyway i can.

Originally posted by bellagirl
reply to post by hariahinoz

 

And its not just single mums and dads, over 1.4 million families (two parent and single, working or unable to work) at last count are in need of critical of assistance right now with a further 4 million on the edge. What will happen when he starts cutting penalty rates and millions join us? Its these people as much as ' my kind' who have now have lost their only hope. Rudd was a turd but he had offered hope, yet under Abbot, there simply is no hope, we have devolved and every civil right fought for since 1970 is now gone or up for reinterpretation under a right wing fascist idiocracy.

This hasnt happened in the last 20 hours. this has happened under 6 years of labor government.

I have to agree with you, perhaps if he lowers welfare payments than more people will have to seriously think about finding work because they wont be able to live off government handouts and then we wont end up with so many people in need of "critical assistance".

Originally posted by bellagirl
reply to post by hariahinoz

 

Australia has willfully elected a racist, a billionaire and a misogynistic, climate change denying, woman's rights hating, pedo apologist, intellectual retard for PM/president

what a horrible thing to say. absolutely none of this true. you are now just being very bitter.


dont give up hope. if things have become this bad for you under labor you never know things may actually improve. my heart goes out to you as you are someone just like me trying to do their best with their lot in life. take a break from the media/internet.

i work in a hospital and worry about the tone/content of your post. dont ever give up hope. you can always PM me and i can try to assist you in anyway i can.

It is not bitterness to speak the truth and your ignorance of the truth and the real facts about Tony Abbot's agenda is not my problem. Australia chose him, the problem is now yours. I go to see to my families safety and security. I dust my feet off and do the only thing I can do, I walk away and leave you to the full consequences of your actions.